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gronne

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« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2004, 01:14:00 PM »
wink.gif , yet true)

Or you can do as many orthodox christian, and have sex after you've got married. I wouldn't recommend it, but if you don't want to be punished by your Gods for doing abortions, go ahead.
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« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2004, 11:16:00 PM »
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22 And in case men should struggle with each other and they really hurt a pregnant woman and her children do come out but no fatal accident occurs, he is to have damages imposed upon him without fail according to what the owner of the woman may lay upon him; and he must give it through the justices. 23 But if a fatal accident should occur, then you must give soul for soul, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 branding for branding, wound for wound, blow for blow.



That it self says its wrong so there for it is. You want to have sex, take responsibly for your actions. If you don't want the responsibly, don't do it, easy as that.
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« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2004, 11:29:00 PM »
Hows this for fucked up. I watched a program last night about condoms and the catholic church. They went to zimbabwe and a woman was had aids because she slept with her husband who she knew had it.

When she spoke, it was about not being able to go to heaven if she wore a condom and not commiting a mortal sin.

When the tv makers spoke to a cardinal about this he said it was better for her to die a martyrs death than to of wore a condom.

I know its a little bit off topic but thats fucked up!
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rms2001

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« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2004, 11:34:00 PM »
The Catholics don't really have a clue to what they are teaching any way. Why would you even lissen to some one beliving God, his Son, and the Holy Spirit are all one in the same? Thats just insane.
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« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2004, 11:35:00 PM »
QUOTE (rms2001 @ Jun 28 2004, 03:16 AM)
That it self says its wrong so there for it is.

sorry, but you cant use the bible to prove anything... except gravity...  wink.gif

though i do agree about responsability... but not about abortion being wrong in all cases...
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rms2001

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« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2004, 11:43:00 PM »
QUOTE (gcskate27 @ Jun 28 2004, 01:35 AM)
sorry, but you cant use the bible to prove anything... except gravity...  wink.gif

Also says the earth was round LONG before people of the modern day believed it was.

You can chose not to believe in the Bible, and thats fine. To each, his own. But really, next time your out side walking in the woods take a look around your self and ask your self “Was this all just an accident?”
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« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2004, 11:43:00 PM »
QUOTE (gcskate27 @ Jun 28 2004, 08:35 AM)
sorry, but you cant use the bible to prove anything... except gravity...  wink.gif

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gronne

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« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2004, 01:33:00 AM »
RMS: For a starter, at least I don't believe it was an "accident", it's called evolution. "Survival of the fittest" has made those tree's grow large and look the way they look. Evolution has made us think nature can be beautiful because we're so dependent upon it. We think several things are ugly because we fear them, like snakes. But if we overcome the fear we might like their apperance.

Anyway, this is too off-topic. Don't let this be about the process of the evolution or religious believes.
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« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2004, 06:28:00 AM »
QUOTE (rms2001 @ Jun 28 2004, 08:16 AM)
Exodus 21:22-25




That it self says its wrong so there for it is. You want to have sex, take responsibly for your actions. If you don't want the responsibly, don't do it, easy as that.

Do you also keep the sabbath, or do you operate machinery on Saturdays? Keep kosher? Follow all of the 10 commandments?
If you're going to follow the old testament, you shouldn't pick and choose which parts you follow.
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« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2004, 06:32:00 AM »
QUOTE (cainedna @ Jun 28 2004, 03:28 PM)
If you're going to follow the old testament, you shouldn't pick and choose which parts you follow.

thats what religion has come to now
hypocrites and liars- nothing more
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rms2001

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« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2004, 09:24:00 AM »
QUOTE (cainedna @ Jun 28 2004, 08:28 AM)
Do you also keep the sabbath, or do you operate machinery on Saturdays? Keep kosher? Follow all of the 10 commandments?
If you're going to follow the old testament, you shouldn't pick and choose which parts you follow.

There is nothing wrong with the old testament. Exodus 21 is just what came to mind. The old testament is still law, but we are not as closely bound to it as the early followers. But like most laws today, some are very veg and you need to use common since as to what you can and cant do with in that law.

2 Timothy 3:16

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16 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness


So just b/c the old testament may be old, dose not mean you don't have to follow it. Such as Exodus 20:13-16

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13 You must not murder.

14 You must not commit adultery.

15 You must not steal.

16 You must not testify falsely as a witness against your fellowman.


Those are some one the bases for our laws today. So its not okay to follow them just b/c they are in the old testament? As I said, people today are not as bound to it as people of before. I’ll get a little more into detail on this maybe a little later.
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« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2004, 09:57:00 AM »
QUOTE (rms2001 @ Jun 28 2004, 01:24 PM)
Those are some one the bases for our laws today.

so youre saying that these things were only considered wrong after it was stated in the scripture? somehow i doubt it, these all fall under basic the right and wrong instincts that all humans (give or take a few psychopaths) have...

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So its not okay to follow them just b/c they are in the old testament?

and quit trying to twist shit, noone said anything like this...  wink.gif
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« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2004, 10:01:00 AM »
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« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2004, 10:50:00 AM »
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so youre saying that these things were only considered wrong after it was stated in the scripture?


Never said that. They have always been wrong. Ever since the first human pair committed sin and gave up paradise man kind has to be thought what is right and wrong. Adam and Eve were created perfect and knew all of God’s laws.

After they eat from the -tree of knowledge of good and bad- they lost perfection and passed that along to their offspring. Eve gave birth to Cain and Abel. At this time Adam and Eve were the closest thing to perfection, but as each generation came the perfection was less and less.

Humans became “stupider” as time went on. The Bible was written for our benefit and to teach us. As I’m sure you know as time gos on, people tend to forget and distort things. When the “laws” were written into the Bible it was done so to keep us on a straight path, or at lest as straight as possible.
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« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2004, 11:53:00 AM »
You guys know the ten commandments in the bible aren't "the ten commandments" as we know them today, right?
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