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Raver758

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« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2003, 11:17:00 PM »

Soooooooooooo anyone else?
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Hammy

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« Reply #61 on: August 28, 2003, 03:28:00 AM »

Just goes to show that most people on this board do not think for themselfs because they still believe in shit that they were told when they were young. Why is it that since the dawn of time that NOBODY has ever come back for the dead and told the world about it?

It's because that every thing that we are told by any group is TOTAL bullshit.

We die and we rot just like any other animals on this planet!
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Raver758

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« Reply #62 on: September 01, 2003, 02:16:00 AM »

BUMP BUMY BUMPTY!
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« Reply #63 on: September 01, 2003, 05:48:00 AM »

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« Reply #64 on: September 02, 2003, 05:24:00 AM »

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i'll hang my hat on the historical reliability of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ


laugh.gif  laugh.gif   A book that was a collection of ancient word of mouth storys written down in a dead language and then translated dozens of times, plus modified to suit various monarchs over thousands of years.  

in my mind its ok to believe in a GOD as it give comfort in an insane world.
But to take the bible stories as fact, shows a level of blind faith that’s quite disturbing.  blink.gif

The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence.
Thomas H. Huxley

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Raver758

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« Reply #65 on: September 02, 2003, 01:27:00 PM »

Well dude if theres one god all the relgions refer to him as a diff person when its all one person so u cant say that there religon is fake. There is 1 god just diff relgions beleaving diffrently about this 1 god.
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« Reply #66 on: September 02, 2003, 01:40:00 PM »

i'm buddhist, and so i think we get reincarnated back on earth or maybe some distant planet somewhere. i also think there's a heaven/hell but i don't think that regular people can get in there except for the extremes. my girlfriend is catholic and everytime i tell her that i want to be a butterfly in my next life, she hits me and says "we're going to heaven whether you like it or not!!". i'm not THAT religious, but i do think she is very wrong.
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Raver758

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« Reply #67 on: September 02, 2003, 02:16:00 PM »

well everyones thoughts are diff hell we might even rot in the ground who knows lol
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« Reply #68 on: September 02, 2003, 04:49:00 PM »

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There is 1 god just diff relgions beleaving diffrently about this 1 god.


WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!

I know the God of Christianity is very diffrent from other "gods", so dont go making Him equal to all the other "gods"
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« Reply #69 on: September 02, 2003, 05:15:00 PM »

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Where Do You Think You Go When You Die?


I know for sure the answer.....six feet underground  laugh.gif  unsure.gif  sad.gif
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Novahux

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« Reply #70 on: September 02, 2003, 05:44:00 PM »

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first, the bible that we have today is 98.5% compatible with all of the thousands of ancient scrolls we've discovered


and you source for this fact is ?  laugh.gif
most likely from the same ppl that think the earth in only 4,000 years old  laugh.gif

even if there are some cases of scroll matching bible passages, Its just old fable translated from a very old fable.
You automatically assume that the original scrolls are actually events when there is no and most likely never will be any way to prove or disprove them as facts.

Basic common sense tells us that we have no idea where we came from or what happens to us when we die. even respected scientist mix educated guessing to come up with their big bang & evolution theories.  (although I prefer an educated guess than blind faith)

I’m sick of this you must choose between  God or evolution, the plain hard cold fact is we don’t know and believing in someone’s else guess is almost as bad as taking a ancient collection of fables as fact and then preaching them onto others.
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« Reply #71 on: September 02, 2003, 07:09:00 PM »

bob, that's a good word.  belief in god doesn't need to be justified.  it is what is known as a properly basic belief, using presuppositional apologetics anyway.  we must presuppose God exists for anything to make sense.  if God did not exist, everything would be nonsensical, there would be no basis or foundation.  that's the transcendental argument for the existence of God in a nutshell, that behind all of our beliefs, there are supporting beliefs, and the foundation, the most basic belief is that God exists.  But this argument can go no further than to prove that belief in God is not an irrational belief.  Quite the opposite, this argument proves God's existence to be entirely more rational than his lack of existence (the transcendental argument for God's non-existence, presented by Michael Martin himself, has been defeated).  

As for dealing with historial matters and in dealing with the Bible's reliability, most people are hung up on Genesis 1-11, the account of Pre-History as written by Moses following his time spent with God at Sinai.  There are several theories that most evangelical Christians find acceptable, but many look to the the age/day theory, the events taking place in the 7 day period were not literal 24 hour periods.  After all, the sun was not created until the fourth day.  the hebrew word for day (yom) in other parts of the OT is used to refer to longer than a literal day (such as "in the days when kings went off to war (2 Samuel), which was obviously more than a few days, more likely generational).  Under this theory, God could easily have created over long successions of time.  Personally, I'll stick with the 7 day theory (literally) but I have no problem with other Christians concerning this issue.  I do, howevever, have a problem with the science of carbon dating, which has a sketchy track record.  for instance, 6 years ago a group of researchers, as a joke, carbon dated a live turtle.  the results showed the turtle to be 50,000 years old...  also, it is hard to follow the premise that carbon dating continues to be reliable the older fossils become.  the only way we would know for certain that a 5 million year old fossil is actually dated correctly would be for us to take a bone, let it fossilize, wait 5 million years, and then carbon date it.  only then would we be able to legitimize the process.  what's really sad is that, as i said, so many get hung up on the techincal issues of gen 1-11 that they miss out on the important stuff, theology.  for instance we learn in Genesis the really important answers about life: (1) who am i?  I am God's special creation (2) why am I here?  I am here to pursue a relationship with God (3) what's wrong with me?  i am a sinner, and as a result of my sin, am alienated from God  (4) Yet despite this, God has an awesome plan of redemption, one that spans the ages and finally culminated in the death and resurrection of his Son.

as for the bible being "fables," i would simply ask that you provide a basis for comparison.  what other fables are you talking about.  the only other ancient writing we have that most compare the bible to is the enumah elish, a babylonian epic that has a flood account.  some argue that the jews borrowed this story and made it part of their writing.  however, wouldn't it be just as plausible to suggest that an actual flood did indeed occur, one that was so catastrophic that all the descendants of man who survived after the flood remembered and passed the stories on and the stories changed over time?  again, i'd like a basis for comparison here.  please give me  a list of other "fables" and i'd be happy to converse on these.
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« Reply #72 on: September 02, 2003, 07:12:00 PM »

You are but blind, like sheep. You shall be herded to your doom.
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« Reply #73 on: September 02, 2003, 07:19:00 PM »

QUOTE (Mechazilla @ Sep 3 2003, 04:12 AM)
You are but blind, like sheep. You shall be herded to your doom.

Wow what an intellegent response
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johnnobts

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« Reply #74 on: September 02, 2003, 07:21:00 PM »

the bible teaches us that "we suppress the truth with unrighteousness."  the mind is not the stumbling block when it comes to having faith in Christ, it is the sinful condition of our hearts.  there are brilliant men and women, doctors, novelists, chemists, physicists, etc. who have become believers over the years, and also the not so smart (yours truly).  people don't become Christians because we think we're smarter than anyone else.  we become Christians because we know deep down we've fallen short (Rom. 3:23), we've sinned (some more than others, but all sinned nonetheless), and are in need of forgiveness.  Friend, you may have so-called Christians in your life who act arrogant, as though they're better off than you are.  i'm just simply letting you know God is offering us forgiveness and a relationship with him, not for anything that we've done to deserve it, but b/c he loves us despite our condition.  so, i consider myself not to be the smartest person here.  i consider myself simply to be like that of a beggar who is trying to help point other starving beggars to a place where there is free food.
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