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[jasonmvt]

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I forgot to mention the American War for Independance (for everyone in America as long as they were white) Yes, that was a great war for freedom, shame it resulted in slavery continuing in the USA for 50 years after everyone else had given it up. Americans sure love freedom! and has the US paid its NATO fees yet, I seem to remember they haven't contributed for the past 10 years......I wonder why they are still allowed to belong to the club, could it be they are such warlike oppressors of democracy that no-one dares oppose them??

once again another reply that offers no counter point from the previous rebuttal, just more mindless babble.  Yes the US are, 'such warlike oppressors of democracy.'  This is the kind of garbage Achtung says comes from a 'REAL educated person'?  And you thought education in the US was bad.


/Yells out loud 'Lizard King, why have you foresaken us!!!!'

[Wong Hung Lo]

QUOTE (Nathan561 @ Mar 6 2003, 06:28 PM)

You see the old Georgey getting all trigger happy over Iraq, and their possible (and most probable) weapons,yet have you thought about what might happen with North Korea in the near future. They could already have, plus the ability to have more nukes in the next year or so.  On top of this, They're a mean ass country as well, slagging off pretty much everyone else and becoming utter loners as well as still being officially at war with the South.  To be truly honest, North Korea is the same level threat, possibly more that Iraq as for a start there is solid evidence that they are infact producing nuclear material... apparently for their own "self-denfense"... hmm..

I think that China can take care of their next door neighbor. They don't like the problem with N. Korea just like the rest of the world.

[Wong Hung Lo]

QUOTE (kard63 @ Mar 6 2003, 06:45 PM)

I am totally sexist but I am voting for Hilary Clinton in 2004.  Speaking of Hilary anyone see that VJ on MTV?  I would fuck the shit outa' her.

Is that so? I guess you'd stick your dick in anything.  

[jasonmvt]

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I have only argued the points people respont to incorrect about history and what the US is doing

no, you make sweeping generalizations that offer little factual basis.

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I never thought it was possible for someone to miss the point of ever single response but you have some how succeeded

there is no point in your responses, other than to bash the US with your childlike understanding of the world, and anyone who disagrees with it.  What points do you really make?  As far as your 'you act like a 3 year old' quip, it serves a purpose to expose your lacking ability to formulate an educated response.  I have not demonstrated that war is the only answer, for everything.  I feel in this case, however, it is warranted.  Once again, would you not respond the same way if I made statement similar to :

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You ignorent Americans make me sick

against Canada?  (Feel free to actually answer that question) Why are Americans "ignorent"?  Oh, wait you provide all the answers in your post.....

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you do not know anything about History other then what they tell you On TV

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They dont give a shit about anyone or any other country but themselves

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no one respects you or gives a rats ass about the States

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And the reason you cant count on American product is because americans cant build shit and your country would completly die if that ever happened.

(there, I made sure to quote you some more, since you obviously can't stand to be reminded of what you said)

I admit, that last one really moved me.  Probably because it made no sense at all.  All of your statements are pathetic thoughts you feel the need to emit, not in anyway connected to reality.  Your obvious bias has not been supported with any fact of any sort at all.  

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You edit other peoples quotes so they suite your own resposes.

ummm..... They are what you said.  They are not changed in any way.  It's called responding to what someone stated.  You should try it some time.

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And you say you dont watch american TV

time to check that prescription again.... when did I say I didn't watch TV?

[pjclark1]

jason
the next thing you'll be saying is that America really did
put man on the moon....when we all know it was a hoax.

oh
and I can't see where you made any sort of sensible reply
to either Achtung or myself. Unless you consider a sensible
reply to be an insult.

How about listing some good things America has done recently
or in the past....if you know any. (PS. most educated people don't consider killing foreigners a 'good thing')

[jasonmvt]

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jason the next thing you'll be saying is that America really did put man on the moon....when we all know it was a hoax.

 seriously, I can't stop laughing.  What little credibility you had... nevermind... obviously this is going nowhere fast. Still laughing.... Achtung, you support this guy?  

[Achtung]

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here is where the real

Jasonmvt

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is exposed

 I

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hate bush so much

I

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Upon careful study must love dick

I

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resort to broken english and swearing in a hope to somehow emphasize

My

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nonexistent point,I am merely

A

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mindless zealot

Once again you show it, so now I too will pick off pieces of your posts and make my response. Your right there are no points to any responses when you pick out a single part of it out of context and go off and ramble which is all you do. Like someone else said you can take this as a moral victory Im done because I just cant take your stupidity any more live in your Increadible nation which is so great and wonderful and keep telling yourself how the whole world is just so much in debt to you, keep telling yourself and In your own fantacy it can be true.

[jasonmvt]

 you wasted 40 minutes of you life for that ?   It's really simple.  You make a statement - I quote it, and respond to it.  That is the way a debate works.  Hey, I can't help it if being reminded of you own stupidity upsets you.  All of the things I quoted did not have their meaning changed because of their context.  You make the narrow minded statements all by your lonesome, it doesn't take any creative wording to make you look like a fool.  You have answered none of my arguments and  failed to produce facts or opinions on specifics when challenged.   At least I respond to what you have written.

Here's a recap if you choose to actually discuss something relevant:

Can you not understand that when you say things like Americans are so stupid, they only know what they see on tv, etc., etc... that those are far from educated responses.  All I am asking for here is some basic adherence to logic.  A person who claims to have a superior intellect should not be make statements like the aforementioned.

If those statements were made about Canada (FOR THE 3RD TIME) would you not respond against them?

And finally, you support someone who claims the moon landing was faked?

Those are the questions at hand before you Achtung.  If you really want this thread to head in the direction your previous post indicates, fine, I'll be more than happy to oblige.

EDIT: Oh and by the way, once again, when did I say I  didn't watch TV?

[falconsfan]

[Mage]

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And the reason you cant count on American product is because americans cant build shit and your country would completly die if that ever happened.

Oddly enough, the xbox is what?  A product made by whom? Oh yeah, an American company...I'm not going to bother trying to understand the second part of the sentence, I speak English, not engrish.

[Ronnie]

QUOTE (MartialXboxArtist @ Mar 6 2003, 06:47 PM)

China is training (HIGHLY TRAINED) 200+ million soldiers. Lets hope we don't piss off China. I don't know what is up Korea's ass, but they need to chill with the Nuke. Not going to do anything, but get them hurt as well. As for the US, they need to stop acting like they're the BOSS of everyone. That's what going to get us NUKED there, which I think WILL HAPPEN... Anyways, I am against war. What the hell is anyone getting out of it?

China doesnt have 200 million+ soldiers.Damn your dumb.
The US has the largest military then russia then north korea.

[Tripamang]

That's great that some living conditions have improved in afghanistan, but once the US backs out of there it's going to right back to the way it was, or some quasi form of it. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if there was a all out civil war there before the end of 2004.

[Ronnie]

QUOTE (pjclark1 @ Mar 8 2003, 12:10 PM)

I forgot to mention the American War for Independance (for everyone in America as long as they were white) Yes, that was a great war for freedom, shame it resulted in slavery continuing in the USA for 50 years after everyone else had given it up. Americans sure love freedom! and has the US paid its NATO fees yet, I seem to remember they haven't contributed for the past 10 years......I wonder why they are still allowed to belong to the club, could it be they are such warlike oppressors of democracy that no-one dares oppose them??

And also the US did pay its NATO fees shortly after the terrorist attack.I wonder why we owed so much?
Maybe because we are the country that solves conflicts
We use our forces when NATO or the UN thinks its right.
Who got Iraq out of Kuwait in the gulf war(UN voted,US did the work)?Who went into kosovo(NATO voted US again takes action)?Who got the communist of of South Korea(WE DID GET THE PICTURE)?

If we leave NATO then NATO becomes nothing and those pussies would never help any country that is being attacked.

If we didnt go to Kuwait to get Iraq out,who would?The UK and Australia?I doubt they could handle it.France and Russia are the countries with the most to lose and thats why they oppose the use of force.
I may not think we should start a war either but when people just talk shit and say america always wants war and dont know what the hell is going to or what has happened in the past it pisses me off.

And if you dont understand,the US will not continue the Korean War because they do have nukes.And yes we are affraid,that is why the president want to kill Saddam now.I dont think we should fight for Israel or Kuwait but if some one threatens us we should act.So far Saddam hasnt but one day he will and he will have nukes,why wait?Its going to happen why not solve the problem now.


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No?Oh well then you're welcome.

[jasonmvt]

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http://www.hcc4u.net/union.wmv I dont know how this got missed before but this is pure brilliance courtesy of AdmStng

well surprise, surprise - Achtung yet again avoids acknowledging anything contradictory to his banal idiocy by providing this sort of nonsense.  

As Mage also pointed out,

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And the reason you cant count on American product is because americans cant build shit and your country would completly die if that ever happened.

This is truly a qualified judge of 'pure brilliance'.

[phantazma1]

QUOTE (pjclark1 @ Mar 8 2003, 10:10 AM)

Yes, that was a great war for freedom, shame it resulted in slavery continuing in the USA for 50 years after everyone else had given it up. Americans sure love freedom!

just to let you know, the Yi Minority group in China had a social class system that allowed
slavery up until 1950's until the Communist Party took over.

no country is perfect. you can't judge current Americans with the Americans 100 years ago.
That's ridulous. If everyone thought that way, there would be WW3, WW4, etc. because
their opinions on people won't change. Talk to your grandparents how bitter they still are
with WW1/2. My ex-gf's parents hates all Americans because of WWII, and my current gf's
parents hate all Japanese because of the conflict between korea and japan decades ago.

point is: we are the new generation, a collection of people who aren't bitter about the past.
we can move on, and that is what we must do.