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sokignano

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« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2006, 02:57:00 AM »

well 2hrs and 50 mins later heres what i've come up with.

UP............................PIN 3
DOWN.......................PIN 5
LEFT.........................PIN 4
RIGHT......................PIN 2
A.............................PIN 12
B.............................PIN 15
Z.............................PIN 20
START......................PIN 11
CUP.........................PIN 18
CDOWN....................PIN 13
CLEFT.......................PIN 17
CRIGHT....................PIN 14
RTRIGGER................PIN 21
LTRIGGER.................PIN 58
AUP..........................???
ADOWN.....................???
ALEFT........................???
ARIGHT.....................???

STICK PINS ON CONTROLLER PCB CHIP UP, FROM LEFT TO RIGHT

SPOT 1.........................PIN 6
SPOT 2.........................GROUND
SPOT 3.........................GROUND
SPOT 4.........................PIN 7
SPOT 5.........................PIN 9
SPOT 6.........................PIN 8

If someone could double check my findings, to make sure I traced them correctly. I'll try again tomorrow to check. And also if anyone knows where to find the info on the Stick PCB would be extremely helpful.
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« Reply #61 on: January 23, 2007, 06:13:00 PM »

Has anyone done a N64 controller or a PS1 controller?
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« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2007, 03:19:00 PM »

i purchased an svga cable, ready to tackle the duke and snes controllers, but the cable only had 12 wires in it!  there were the normal colors, and then 3 fat wires colored blue, red, and green...there werent any with stripes... is this cause it's an svga cable?  anyone know where to get one that'll have enough wires?
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Infamous Ob

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« Reply #63 on: March 04, 2007, 05:25:00 PM »

So you sayin' that will enable all the old systems to be played on PC monitors?
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whoamonga

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« Reply #64 on: March 05, 2007, 09:26:00 AM »

okay, this is an update for anybody who's out there trying to convert these controllers still...

The HD15 vga cables (at least the ones i've found) aren't going to work anymore.  There are actually only 12 wires running through them now because the shielding and insultion (or something like that) are used for the 13th and 14th wires, so it's really not practical to use them anymore.

However, i did find that the DB15 cables actually use 15 individual wires running through them.  They have a different shape and it might be more difficult to mount it into the memory card slot of your duke controller, but it should still work non-the-same!

the cheapest place i found the db15's was at http://www.cablewholesale.com/ .  So if anyone's still trying to mod these controllers this late in the game, heres an update.
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« Reply #65 on: April 11, 2007, 06:56:00 PM »

Hi I had a few questions.

1.  I have a female 15 pin vga port and a male vga 15 pin port also. I bought them from radioshack. Anyway I had a question  they don't have wires so I really can't understand your schematic. I was wondering what pins would do what. I've seen a lot of pictures of the pins usually right to left 1-15 but I can't find one with the pins laid out with wires attached.

2. Also if I install a vga port into my duke can I still use it for games such as halo and stuff then could switch it with a different controller via vga if possible for my homebrewed games?

3. Is there a tutorial on how to install a vga port and a headphone jack inside the xbox? Or just a headphone jack? I would really like pictures if possible I've always seen schematics but they really don't give me the best understanding.

4. If I installed a vga port inside the xbox could I use it on normal xbox games and movies?  Or do I need special bios. Would I need a modchip? Or could I be able to tsop flash the xbox with it? If a modchip is needed would a duox2 lite work or a duox 2?

5. If I just install a headphone jack could I be able to choose between tv or headphone?


thanks in advanced.
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xboxmods2977

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« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2009, 10:24:00 PM »

I may be mistaken but it appears that your diagram for the 7800 controller is incorrect. From the picture, it looks like you have the to action buttons wired in parallel using one pair of wires (one function regardless of button pressed) when in fact, the 2 action buttons on the 7800 controller, when playing 7800 games, served 2 functions on some games (I.E. Cracked where one button caught falling eggs and the other button fired).

To me, this method is not truly authentic.... If I am correct on your diagram.

If I am mistaken, Please disregard.
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« Reply #67 on: March 09, 2009, 06:52:00 AM »

QUOTE(pimpmaul69 @ May 4 2006, 01:33 AM) View Post

a genesis 3 button controller
IPB Image
IPB Image


What does the fuzzed wire on the image mean? I fault on your behalf or a specific wire?
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flxfxp

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« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2009, 04:43:00 PM »

I'm losing my fucking head and patience here! grr.gif
The fucking solder pins on the xbox are so tiny! Anyway, I got them all done except one, which is the hardest: all the solder from the pcb is gone and it wont attach. What can I use to get solder on the tiny pad again? Flux?

Is there anyone who can offer doing the job or selling premodded controller? Name your price by PM.

Dennis
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Bomb Bloke

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« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2009, 12:01:00 AM »

To resolder bare pads, I grab my cutting pliers (or scissors in a pinch) and cut the smallest sliver of solder off my reel as possible. I put this thing on the pad, then apply the soldering iron.

Hold a needle or pin in your other hand to poke it around with. Makes it very easy to unbridge accidentally joined points and so forth.
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event horizon

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« Reply #70 on: May 23, 2009, 05:06:00 PM »

Won't the wires break off from the solder when you press buttons and move the gamepad around? There aren't really any wires soldered to the pads originally since they all use clips, anyone had to resolder the wires or are they safe?
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« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2009, 02:55:00 AM »

A soldering is safe as long as you don't put too much mechanical pressure on it.
I have seen 2 reasons for solderings to fail.

1. The soldered component is heating up during operation.
(This happens with power resistors and transistors. If your wires heat up, you have a serious problem.)

2. The component is vibrating.
Even if you don't see it, some components can vibrate.
This usually happens when the equipment is used in car's or ships. For that reason, you might see components like electrolityc capacitors that are glued to the pcb.

So, if you solder a wire, attach it to the pcb with a drop of hot glue, a few inches from the soldering.
Doing so, the wire can't move if you move the controller around.

regards.
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event horizon

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« Reply #72 on: May 26, 2009, 02:08:00 PM »

That's a great idea, I'm definitely doing that, I was thinking in hot gluing the solder points but that's safer.

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« Reply #73 on: June 10, 2009, 12:23:00 PM »

Hey. I realise my question will be slightly off topic but I plan to post my snes & megadrive mod on this thread.

Anyway, can anyone recommend a glue to repair a broken snes trigger button? I think super glue would be too brittle so need a glue that probably melts the plastic slightly when bonded for a stronger fix. Im based in the UK.

Heres a pic of the break:

IPB Image

Thanks for any help.
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bassquake

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« Reply #74 on: June 14, 2009, 10:54:00 AM »

Here's the 3 button megadrive pad which is from the UK.

(IMG:http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9896/megadrivepadresized.jpg)

You can reuse its cable which has exactly the right number of wires!

(IMG:http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6121/megadrivepcbonlymarkedr.th.jpg)

NB: Ignore the wire colourings, I didnt follow the OP's tutorial on this thread. I used a DB-15 connector too as it fits perfect in the xbox controller. I'll post pics of my retro > xbox at some point.

Edit: By the way the wording hidden under the wire is "Mega Drive Control Pad".

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