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HOLLY F@$%~!

this is awsome... M$ is doomed... but this is good news for us... Live is going to have more members..

WOW... Ive been waitint for 360 news.. but this is just awsome!~~




See you all on LIVE  

[mrjkwik]

over on his site, he never states whether or not he is going to release the firmware and how to run it.  he only expresses interest in moving straight to the 360.

[Agrooreo]

WOW. Looks like more teabaggin by cheaters on halo2 live......

[miggidy]

QUOTE(psyko_chewbacca3 @ Jan 31 2006, 07:08 AM)

So if I understand well, with the firmware patched the Xbox doesn't do any difference between a backuped game and a retail one?

Does this means that it will be possible to use backups on Xbox Live? if yes that sucks because I'm scared it will open way to a new way of cheating on xbox live by hacking game files on the dvd itself.

If everything is as straight forward as was reported, I don't see why you couldn't play backups over Xbox Live. And don't worry about cheating. You would still have to run homebrew apps for that and it won't work using this method.

A little too late since its rumored M$ has already halted Xbox production so I don't see how this is going to hurt M$ as some of you cats are speculating.

[Textbook]

QUOTE(Agrooreo @ Jan 31 2006, 02:44 AM)

WOW. Looks like more teabaggin by cheaters on halo2 live......

Although that could unfortunately be true, it would not be as bad as the current cheaters.  I would have to say that 90% of them only modded their Xbox for the sole purpose of modding Halo 2 and cheating on LIVE.  In fact, they would have never modded their Xbox if the new maps weren't released.  And I would also bet that around 80% of those cheaters used a softmod.  The reason...  It's free, It's easy to do, doesn't take a lot of brains.  Just a memory card, a game, and hitting the A button 5 times.  Not too difficult at all.  I could teach somebody to do it in 5 minutes.  Not sure how difficult the firmware hack would be, but I doubt many people would be willing to spend a lot of money on the DVD drive to cheat on LIVE.  There are few people who have this drive.  I don't know a person who does, I've never actually seen the drive in person.  Most cheaters aren't going to buy a replacement DVD drive, open up their Xbox, install it, and then flash the firmware.  So yeah, with this, somebody could definitely cheat on LIVE (even the old maps).  But do you really think this will be more widespread then when right after the maps were released?

[billy_dimashq]

i've had a modded xbox since 2003 (the same one i've always had) and been on live for a few years, too, and i've never experienced cheating (never really played halo 2 except in the early days). i can't imagine this hacked firmware will spell doom for my online streetfighter-ing, but still.

here's a question, though - if someone was to hack a game and then burn it, wouldn't that mess up the signature? if so, you really could only play proper 1:1 backups on live and hence would be no more likely to cheat than those owning an original copy of the game?

besides, what with the action replay on the xbox, that'd be the first port of call for cheaters worldwide and that's been sorted out somewhat.

i think this is good news purely from a scene progress point of view than as something i'm actually going to seriously look into or attempt myself, but we shall see how this affects live.

i'm with the rest of the posters on here in that it probably won't do much, if any, damage - halo 2 cheaters have already caused major damage and they were using softmods, etc, so i guess it'll be the same...

[anoobie]

   I dont see why everyones so excited about this... why do u need to get into all this trouble of replacing a dvd drive to just play back ups.  You all can do this with a softmodded xbox and plus u can upgrade ur harddrive and play homebrew games and xbox media center and so many other things...i dont see what the hypes all about... unless ur planning to go on live with backups then i can understand why ur all happy and stuff. otherwise this is nothing new until applied to the 360.

[urmydizire]

yeah but if u had a hacked firmware wouldnt ms detect it and ban u from live like dont u all have brains again ull need  original disc to play live and when u wanna play backups u just flash reflash flash reflash make sure the ethernet cable is hooked and unhooked when u know it should be

[cja100]

QUOTE(urmydizire @ Jan 31 2006, 08:19 AM)

yeah but if u had a hacked firmware wouldnt ms detect it and ban u from live like dont u all have brains again ull need  original disc to play live and when u wanna play backups u just flash reflash flash reflash make sure the ethernet cable is hooked and unhooked when u know it should be

ms cant detect this hack! yet.

[troyBORG]

I just had to say this...

I wonder if you modded halo2 maps since it was a burned disc the xbe to launch it would be real. just the maps are different.


If so.  Yeah I hope it would be hard to do that people won't want to try it.



Also yeah it be cool if they can mod the 360 for stuff.    But i'd like it to stay non-modded cause of how much people love to cheat in games.

I just had to say this...

I wonder if you modded halo2 maps since it was a burned disc the xbe to launch it would be real. just the maps are different.


If so.  Yeah I hope it would be hard to do that people won't want to try it.



Also yeah it be cool if they can mod the 360 for stuff.    But i'd like it to stay non-modded cause of how much people love to cheat in games.

[billy_dimashq]

people have got much more excited over much smaller news, so slating this news will fall on deaf ears.

preflashed drives will probably start appearing on ebay in due course

[.:Dino:.]

great news but i agree that what the specialist is saying seems a bit towards the 360. hope we do get a release though, but couldnt he have hacked the samsung lol

[Textbook]

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unless ur planning to go on live with backups then i can understand why ur all happy and stuff

...possibly...

It's what I want to know anyways.

The Specialist posted this in the official Xboxhacker.net thread, in response to kl0wn's question about LIVE:

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I'm quite sure I could play on live with this mod. However, it will probably be just a matter of time before MS is going to find a way to block it. The hack I did is really basic and will need some modification to make it harder to detect. However, I think it's best to first get the same thing done on the 360

So....

[eyric101]

I think if this is true, it is the best news to hit the scene since the original box was cracked.

The scene has always cried about cheaters getting on live so hacking into live was a no no and any possible way to do it was kept top secret.   Thats not a problem with this as any actual change to the game signature itself can be detect by MS and cheating punks can be banned.  What this does mean is that that fragile, easily scratchable disc that MS loves to resell us can be perm put up in a safe place.

MS has other avenues if they want to stop people from playing "pirated" games online.  Send a single, server checked serial number, unique with each game.  Just give us a way to protect our media investment.  Especially since somtimes their own hardware scratches our discs.  I don't understand why MS doesn't understand the scene's need to make backups of our 50 dollar games.

[Reaper527]

QUOTE(eyric101 @ Jan 31 2006, 03:41 AM)

  I don't understand why MS doesn't understand the scene's need to make backups of our 50 dollar games.

it was 50, 360 games are 60 :/ i think its great to be able to play backups on live, however at the cost of cheating becoming rampant, i don't think its worth it. Hopefully cheating is difficult enough that the average 13 year old kid isn't going game to game hacking the shit out of it over live