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[LordX]

QUOTE(userann0n @ Jan 31 2006, 11:14 AM)

It is good to see the progression of xbox modifications, but I do like my hard drive, not to mention the expensive cost of DVD9 for those larger games.

My prediction is that they are going to start encoding every game with a unique encrypted ID# for live purposes. That way M$ can track down the sources of copied games and instantly ban those who have two same ID#'s on live at the same time. I am predicting this for the x360 since orginal xbox is on its way out.

But then again, what do i know.  

yes true , also you can boot only RAW 1:1 backups ( without any fix ).
and M$ can make MD5 check on Firmware .
so best way to do this is make "edit" tool for firmware so everyone can edit his own Firmware and get deferent MD5.
1) dump own firmware by connecting DVDROM to PC
2) use tool to patch firmware
3) flash it back  

also I guess it will boot only same region games , if you have USA/NTSC Console you can boot only USA/NTSC Games.  

[Textbook]

Why do people keep saying stuff like "This is stupid, it won't let you run homebrew, so it's not as great as you're hyping it up to be, it only lets you play backups"  Well, the kicker here is backups on LIVE.  Which I'm pretty sure this allows you to do.  And by the way, I have a dual hard drive setup, so I can switch hard drives for backups/homebrew/XBMC or I can switch back to my stock hard drive and play on LIVE.  Adding this DVD drive with the firmware hack can only help my Xbox, not hurt it.

[MrSpumonte]

QUOTE(eyric101 @ Jan 31 2006, 09:41 AM)

Especially since somtimes their own hardware scratches our discs.  I don't understand why MS doesn't understand the scene's need to make backups of our 50 dollar games.

Well put!  This is great news.  Xbox modding was my way of securing my kids movies and games by storing them on the HDD.  Kids can load what they want and never touch any DVDs.  This could hurt LIVE with new ways of cheating not just at Halo 2, but at every single XBL game.  I look forward to 360 mods, but am scare as then Gamer Scores will meaning nothing due to exploits I'm sure...  

[m.e]

If we manage to run backups on the xbox 360 I see no reason for MS not to let us run homebrew as well

[Master Reefed]

cd keys?

[BigNamek]

Does this mean that the Xbox drive will also be able to read a more types of DVD-/+R media as long as it has signed XBEs on it?

[RolfLobker]

A) This has not been tested on xbox live. Though in theory it would work but MS would probably find a way to detect it soon afterwards.
The firmware has not been released. This is just information. You can't actually do anything but read about it.
C) This firmware hack only plays back correctly signed xbe's on improper signed discs. Nothing more.
D) This is good news for xbox360. Not for Xbox itself since we can very easily softmod those through font- and xbepatches.
E) Very nice and valuable information but again this is breaking news on the progress of being able to run backups on xbox360. Nothing more.

[bourke]

Check this out!




They're now worth slightly more than the US$20 I payed for them LOL!

Thanks Specialist, I knew my gamble on your skills would pay huge dividends - I owe you a beer or ten :-)


Cheers,
Bourkie

[MacDennis]

QUOTE(v1p3r @ Jan 31 2006, 12:12 PM)

I'm pretty sure online PS2 games have a unique identifier.

Each game: yes. Each disc: partially
PS2 games use a system called DNAS. This site mentions some ID's: DNAS.

I assume ps2 games are pressed in (identical) batches. Or each manufacturing plant could be using an unique master of a particular game.

[ashert]

the story goes...
modchip free xbox's will start to have this patch applied, people will be happy to play their backups on xbox live...
this will never hold the same value as a modchip and big hard drive though, just the capacity to never swap disks is terrific - add to this xbmc.... lan connectivity etc - the modchip is what you want, but this will make it very easy to play backups and to play them on xb live - terrific :-)

now the entire 360 world is about to find out if ms suspected this 'hole' in their system, which is what is indicated by people saying that the dvd drives cant be swaped between 360's... just out of curiosity though, have people be trying swaping dvdType1 with dvdType1 or only dvdType1 with dvdType2 - just a thought...

great news and yes, excited :-)

and one final thought... in THEORY i suppose it would be possible to re-map the 'yes this is a valid disk' check to a HD block and have that on the HD or as part of a patch applied to games you keep on your hd - thus playing hd versions without having to get up and swap disks all the time... but again this area would get a lot more complicated because the kernal might not be live compatiable.... anyway - i am starting to talk about things i dont really know about, so ill end this entire brain-fart about now

cheers all

[krawhitham]

QUOTE(Master Reefed @ Jan 31 2006, 11:35 AM)

cd keys?

so you buy the game, get your cd key, mod the game so you can cheat, burn your modded hacked game, and play it online with a legit cd key

cd key will not stop cheaters



or keygen start coming out, which will block someone who really bought the game

[rodpad]

Sounds silly, but does this also work?

Stock drive with only yellow power cable plugged in with original disc inside
PC drive with molex power cable, the dvd ide cable, and a backup inside?

I've never tried it, but does the xbox detect it a non pressed disc?

[nikiiv]

You cannot cheat on live with this. Cheating will require changing the original signed xbe, which cannot be done. This trick only allows you to play backups on LIVE, since XBOX does not know that those are backups..

[rodpad]

Nik, it will let you cheat.

Only the XBE is signed, not the data/content on the disc.

[rocarmy4life]

QUOTE(nikiiv @ Jan 31 2006, 03:03 PM)

You cannot cheat on live with this. Cheating will require changing the original signed xbe, which cannot be done. This trick only allows you to play backups on LIVE, since XBOX does not know that those are backups..

i dont think splintercell requires the xbe to be modified...
all splintrcell used was an ini file... you could enable and disable all kinds of shit in that file...
im not sure if this is the same with the newest versions of the game though, but just goes to show that you do not need to modify the xbe of a game to alter it... now if you were thinking people might use trainers, then no, they cant because they cant execute homebrew like evox and xored... as those are not signed...