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[TKramka]

I won't argue about this decision at all, I can just see the lasndslide of lawsuits and annoying live cheaters already...

EDIT: Removed although comment...

[whitemagician]

QUOTE(doubljdog @ Feb 2 2006, 01:06 AM)

Yeah, just wait, we'll see this guy open up a little business of selling replacement dvd drives that can play backups on live without modding it, selfish bastards

Someone smart enough to be the first known person to hack the firmware would not be stupid enough to be taken down for all that he has just to sell a few dvd drives. Of course smarter people have done stupider things.

[swolsten]

If anyone wants to hack the firmware all you need to do is decompile the existing firmware, identify the function that returns the disk type and fudge it to return the type for XBOX DVD even if its CDR/DVDR.

Now if all you flamers put some time into working out how to do that instead of slagging off someone that has contrubuted something towards the scene you may just stumble on a way to do it.

Data sheets and firmware images are all in the PD so get to work.

And please register www.IAmNotJustAFlamerButIAlsoHelpPeople.com and host it there.  btw, good look with M$ and the rest of your life if you do host it.

[hippo]

Haha TS is like that guy at the back of the casino who's been putting Quarters in a slot machine since December. Now that's he's hit the jackpot 2 months later he has 20 pages of new friends. Only these friends didn't drop by to say congratulations they dropped by to get their piece of the pie. Glad to see TS serving them 0%.

To TS I'd say congrats and enjoy your jackpot. One guy working alone can make a dent in things and sitting this in the background for use at a later project sounds like proper planning. Enjoy your time to shine you deserve it all and stay true to your principles.

[icantstandtoburntolong]

I think Xbox-scene has become too bloated and filled with children for its own good. All the reall work gets done on another forum and when the news is reported on Xbox-scene their forums are filled with you stupid children begging for the hack. Just stay here and gab about the 1 wire mod and let people who hack for the pure statisfaction of it alone.

oh, Btw can I use my xbox controller on my 360 LOL !!!!!11111oneone

[RX3]

This thread has been a real eye opener. You crybaby kids want everything handed to you so you can copy games and not have to pay the 60 bucks. I guarantee this is the the intention of most of you crying and insulting The Specialist for this hack.

I really hope other hackers see this thread and decide "f that. I'm not gonna hack anything for these crybabies." Then the Xbox 360 will never be hacked.

[majik655]

As much as I respect your decision.. I do have a problem with making your work public.. then stating you have done it.. then stating you will not release the final steps how you came about doing it...

I understand the issues with releasing such a thing, I also know you were or had to have thought about it many times before you finished the hack, so to say you slept on it in my opinion is BS.  

If one did it... then soon someone else will do it also.  Especially when alot of the work was public.


now .. when the hack is done, and I am sure it will be.  What makes you think M$ will not come to you anyway thinking you are involved or HAVE been involved in some sort of way in the hack....especially since you have come on publicly and basically ratted on yourself for NOTHING.  You state YOU DID IT..  lol   well you should have made some $$ when YOU DID it.  (unless you are )

At least you also publicly stated why you would not release it,   hopefully M$ will believe that when the hack becomes available.

[DoTsTeRX]

Ya, word on the scene is it will be released sometime next week. He just said he wouldn't release it to make it look better for him later on so he can deny having anything to do with it.

This thread is all part of that conspiracy.

[whitemagician]

QUOTE(doubljdog @ Feb 2 2006, 02:52 AM)

How is not sharing the knowledge considered a contribution to the scene, sure he figured out how to do it, but he hasn't contributed shit, he just told us he knows how to do it

There was two months of work on the other forums with posting of progress thats how he contributed its not like he came out of the blue and said he did it there was alot of work done and information gathered now I didnt follow that work but if you even bothered to look through the rest of this thread you would know that.

Also the fact that we now know that it is possible other people will try and therefore someone else will do it so all those people who just want to "stick it to the man" can download your games and mess up Live for the rest of us.

[blame canada]

Ok, I think some people need to stop getting their panties in a bunch. How about we sit back, and wait for a tut, or wait for proof about this instead of "assuming" that this is BS. I really dont want to see a thread about a hacking breakthrough get pushed to the edge of closure (or some post cleaning ). Besides that, I can't wait to see a tut and/or proof .

[TKramka]

They have said numerous times they do not wish to help people pirate games... (THEY WON'T HELP!)

[DoTsTeRX]

QUOTE(cybertlcworld @ Feb 1 2006, 09:29 PM)

What a joke.  "I figured out how to hack the firmware, yet I'm not going to tell anyone how because it may hurt Live."  Get real.  Like softmods haven't hurt live?  You don't think they'll find a way to stop the firmware hack from going on Live if you release it?

There are a lot of groups that hack firmware (Dangerous Brothers for example) for DVD drives on the PC side.  Someone should try to contact them and see what they think.........they're GENIUSES in that field.

Very Well Said... I said something similar earlier today but they deleted my post.

[Lizotte]

QUOTE(cybertlcworld @ Feb 2 2006, 02:40 AM)

Well isn't that a shitter.  But seriously, you can't tell me that all the companies and individuals that have a hand in XBOX modchips, hacking, softmods, etc. have NO IDEA about how to hack a firmware.  The Dangerous Brothers aren't some rare anomoly.  I'm highly surprised that it's taken THIS long for firmware hacks to even come to light as a working possibility.

From what i've seen all along the strongest and best people in the xbox scene have not been concerned with running backups so much as running homebrew. The original xbox (and now the 360, and all consoles during at least their first year or two) are sold for less than the cost of the components. That isn't true of any other electronics hardware. So being able to run apps "ad hoc" or run homebrew gives you a really high powered computer for a really low cost.

Since the only use for a DVD firmware mod is running backups it also is a LOT harder (if not completely impossible) to defend it in a court case related to the DMCA, since its only use is circumventing protection on copyrighted material. Thats where xbox modchips by themselves have managed to survive - there is the fair use piece for the hardware, allowing you to run applications/operating systems that aren't "sanctioned" by MS. Thats also why most xbox modchips either ship blank or with a Cromwell based bios on them, as neither of those choices allows you to run backups by itself.

Also, since MS controls the hardware 100%, it is possible for them to require that developers include code (to gain Xbox certification) that were to check for specific checksums or MD5 hashes of the DVD drive firmware or update the xbox dash to do so, that would negate the firmware hack anyway.

The really interesting part of that is that since the 360 has the 16 byte machine unique key in the dvd firmware, its shouldn't be possible for MS to use a similar mechanism (the MD5 hash or CRC) to ban machines via live, as each machine would have its own unique CRC/hash result.

But again, since the Digital Millenium Copyright Act would definitely allow MS to close up and seriously drop a hammer on anyone releasing a DVD firmware mod like this into the wild I don't think anyone who has the ability + skill to do it will risk releasing it.

[bourke]

QUOTE(DoTsTeRX @ Feb 2 2006, 03:35 AM)

Very Well Said... I said something similar earlier today but they deleted my post.

You two are both either illiterate or ill-educated - the Specialist and other hackers (ones in that thread) already sought advice from the Dangerous Bros months ago!

This just adds to how stupid you both look, and that is one pretty huge achievement in itself LOL!

BourkieTM

[tomgreen99200]

I dont think withholding information from the scene is ever a good idea. Regardless of people cheating on LIVE, thats no excuse. Its funny how so many cheater complain about other cheaters. i have no idea how many cheaters there are on LIVE but im sure its a very small percentage of the players on LIVE. Anyway... whats so fun about cheating... im sure people eventually give up on that...   boong !!