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[swolsten]

QUOTE(dough4you @ Jan 31 2006, 09:32 PM)

I've been reading this post and I finally have to put my 2 cents in.

1.  Maybe the specialist is well known and has been on the scene for a long time, but that doesn't mean he can't lie to gain some publicity.  Just because you've been on the merry-go-round for a loooong time, doesn't mean you can't get frustrated you never grabbed the brass ring.  
I would suggest witholding any kudos to thespecialist for any dvd firmware hack (you can give him kudos for all the other work he's done) until there's actually proof that he did it.  By the way, I've already hacked the xbox360 so it can play all unsigned media, but I'm not going to release it either.  Please feel free to start posts on multiple websites congratulating me on my work.

All sardonicism aside,

stfu.  1, if you want to patch the firware read xbh.net and do the patch yourself, all the information is there. 2, do you even understand what the firmware mod does? 3, whats the point in gaining publicity when you are already well respected by everyone that is anyone? 4, I am sure it will be varified, just not publically.

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2. This whole "I'm not releasing anything because M$ might come after me" is the most ridiculous thing I've seen as a reason.  There are tons of mods and softmods and firmware hacks and sh**loads of other stuff using copyrighted material that are out there right now.  Where would ANY of xbox modding be if everyone had the same attitude.  There are PLENTY of anonymous ways to release a dvd firmware hack to the public, and not implicate yourself.  The fact that you've talked about it openly is circumstantial (ie yes I hacked the firmware, but I burned all my files.  the one on the internet right now is not mine).  I'm not even going to get any further into this one.

So, if someone sent you the firware on a floppy disk to your postal address would you host it on your website for everyone to download?  

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3.  People asking for the firmware not to be released because some people might put it to bad use.
OMG get off your high horses.  Is there honour among thieves all of a sudden?  If you modded your xbox, you have done a bad thing.  M$ made a product and a market strategy and you ruined it by modding the xbox for your own gains.  People that all of a sudden gain a conscious and say what they did with their xbox is OK, but for someone to do something else is wrong.  
The whole point of modding is to allow people to do with their xbox what they want, without judgement.  This is like an arguement about what kind of premeditated murders are acceptable.  If you mod your xbox, don't judge someone else who mod's his.  Just like M$ now has to deal with the can of worms that modding has caused, so do you!

Running backups on xbconnect and running backups with modified settings on live are two totally different things.  Say your car in pgr2 is twice as fast as everyone in a race, this could be done without moidifying the xbe, so is that fair for everyone else? what about the people that paid for the game?  Should their experiance be fcuked by you running modified DVD firmware?  


At the end of the day hacked firware only allows you to run backups, it doesnt allow unsigned code, run linux, run dashboard.  It can only be used for piracy..

[adamscybot]

Dissapointing - updated news here on xs.

No release - anyway, I understand - we should concentrate on the 360 rather than giving pirates/cheaters an ounce of hope.

[unspoiledpuma]

WOW!!! Are u serious!! Many peeps in this threads think TheSpecialist is a liar, GOD!! have you checked is progress on the XBH Forum, this guys rock the place. Personnaly if i was in his situation i will wait to release the patch, CAUSE the main Goal of this hack is for the xbox360to play RAW Dump, if he release this patch MS    will analyse the hack and correct the current Dashboard/kernel so this hacks will not be possible before it going to be lunch!

Other Point: If i were the specialist i will not post any information from is computer to not be retraced, multiple proxy or send information through another internet acces point... my 2 cents

[ksteiner]

He doesnt want to release because well if it was you would you release something that can put you away in prison for the rest of your life? I wouldnt do it. Just cause a bunch of self centered idiots want to cheat on live.

[pholly]

Personally, I don't care if it's not released but why go through the trouble of doing it and not release it. And then go bragging about it. It's like showing a hungry baby a bottle and then just leaving with it. He obviously knew he wasn't gonna release it when he did it and should have said so from the start, It's not the point of not releasing for fear of prosecution it's the point of being told about it and then just not releasing it.

[UrbanRiot]

QUOTE(ksteiner @ Jan 31 2006, 11:02 PM)

He doesnt want to release because well if it was you would you release something that can put you away in prison for the rest of your life? I wouldnt do it. Just cause a bunch of self centered idiots want to cheat on live.

   The argument that this will be used to cheat on live is rediculous. People have had game files on their computers for years and it's rare that I encounter cheating in an online game. Hacking Live Xbox games are considerably more difficult, and just because someone figures out how to hack a specific game in particular doesn't mean the entire system is compromised.

    Haven't people already been hacking Halo and Halo 2?  I didn't see the demise of Xbox Live there... just further player protection strategies.

    Citing the protection of Live players is silly.

    I can however understand the legal ramifications, and being scared silly of releasing this. Instead, wait a few months and quietly send it out as someone else, say on IRC

[Crackmonger]

I support his position on not releasing his work 100%.  Such a hack for the 360 is actually very harmful to the scene.  First, it undermines everything that the scene is (supposed) to be about - homebrew.  Secondly, it actually stifles development on a real homebrew solution because chip makers will devote time to packaging this hack rather than continue working on launching unsigned code.

[nwo504]

I actually tried one of these hacked drives in the 360 but it hangs

[theone31]

ok i really dont get some people , if u really dont belive he has achived anything please just pop over to xboxhacker and check the 45 page where the bloke goes into so much detail about the dvd drive and how it works.if ur still not a beliver well please turn off your pc now because theres obviously no hope for you

http://www.xboxhacke...d=33&topic=76.0 heres the direct link prob get in trouble for that but im honstly fed up of reading all these shitty posts about the guy when hes obviously found something

[DivyX]

Specialist isn't liar.

I however feel sorry that this will go unreleased and i don't support specialists choice but i totally understand it and envy hes skills, and other contributers skills too.

I'm sad to see great effort put into something so big as this is, and then do nothing about it.

This was more like sad day giving everyone the impression that all the hardcore hacks won't never be released and generally all the fuss and work you payed attention to was for nothing to the general sceners...

also we know that these 3+ folks atleast, most likely uses this hack, and loves to play backups in live with it.
However, it's no sense to risk your future if you get loads of shit from it.


There will always be someone alternate or another making the same, hopefully.

Maybe hacking and specially cracking scene is too un-malicious and public in certain way for peeps not to dare publish anything rocking anymore.

[Riao]

The fact that there is no licensing agreement when using an xbox (as opposed to PC software including operating systems) means that the xbox is just another appliance.  Making changes to your purchased xbox is no different than making changes to a toaster, legally speaking.  That is why DVD decryption tools are still freely available, and why Johansen (coder of deCSS) is free.

Sorry to beat on my own dead horse.  That's all I'll say in this matter.  I'll drop it from here.

EDIT -->  Aside from this I do want to state that I fully understand the reasons for not releasing this.  I do think that a lengthy and costly court battle would ensue (weather I am right or wrong) and who would ever want to go through that?  Not I, that's for sure.

[beterthnyu]

Ok, just for the hell of it I took up the challenge to find the legality.

I must admit that, Yes I was assuming he was from the United States, or some other equally legallyl binding country. If so, then yes its illegal.

It seems that he is registered as being from "The Netherlands". And just for the hell of it, I did my research. They do in fact have anti-piracy laws already in place, but nothing has been set in stone due to their being no case history to set precedence.

But here's the kicker. There is no specific laws against his acts in the Netherlands, (Its all based on old law about copywritten books and shit right now, and has been used against large piracy rings) But they have in fact passed a new law that will come into effect on July the 1st. This new law specifically bans the use of "backups", even for personal use. They have even made it a law to have to jack up the prices on dvd-rs to help prevent it.

So, I will gladly admit my error in assumption.

But this comes at an even greater cost to you morons staying true to his "I dont want a legal battle! Therefore I cant release it".

If there is not a law set in stone about this in his country, then why is he not releasing it?

Further proof that he is not trying to stay off of the wrong side of the law. THERE IS NO LAW IN THE NETHERLANDS ABOUT THIS HACK!!!!

Thank you for helping me prove myself correct, and further clarifing this inaccuracy.

Ah, Im sure glad I could help sort this all out.

[MetalMickey]

Read x-s is painful. The mods here need to ban about 75% of the users, starting with this twat beterthnyu.

Kudos on the superb work by the Specialist. Ive been following the thread on xboxhacker and its breathtaking stuff. This guy will go far.

[kipsman]

TheSpecialist has achieved something most of us could only dream of doing, hats off to him. And I honestly believe that he has done so. I too would be skeptical as to whether to release it or not. At least not through my own ISP. I might however hand over the work and allow someone else to "Complete the work". Also no one has considered that he may (A) Have been contacted and legally silenced by M$, and or sold this project and does not want to admit to doing so. ( Intends to release it but with complete anonymity  or ©  Has really thought it through and maybe has way too much to lose, like a wife and kids.....

  Its tough to judge a man unless you have walked a mile in his shoes!

Xellaphan

[Malik05]

he prob dint even do it...