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« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2007, 07:24:00 AM »

The hunt is over...

I put a deposit on at Auto 240 in Maine it seriously looks just as good in person then it does in those pictures, in some cases better.

The body has a few minor scratches and is a little faded (all original paint) but it doesn't have a single ding or dent ANYWHERE. All the rubber around the windows, lights, etc. looks brand new and the undercarriage is impressively clean, Honestly the WRX I owned for 5 years had a dirtier undercarriage then this car.

It drives and shifts smooth.

The steering pulls a little to one side and shimmies slightly under breaking but it's got original tires and brake pads so I figure it could probably just use those as well as an alignment. (I plan on replacing the brakes anyway)

All and all I was blown away by it, I highly doubt I could find a cleaner 240sx if I searched country wide for the next 2 years.... and if I did find one I wouldn't have paid as little as I did.

I'm still waiting for him to get the title in, having called the state it will likely be another week to week and a half. I'll be sure to take pictures once I've got the car back home.  smile.gif
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« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2007, 10:32:00 AM »

congrats on finally finding your car, that"s awesome! beerchug.gif


guess you'll just have to get cracking on that engine/tranny swap.. wink.gif haha
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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2007, 02:55:00 AM »

Congrats man, I know what a pain in the ass it can be to find exactly what you are looking for in a car.  I have been searching for about 2 months with no end in sight.  Funny you should mention that about the 240sx with the swap as there is a '92 for sale in my area that just had the swap done.  It's expensive but if everything checks out I might go for it.
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« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2007, 06:53:00 AM »

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ May 16 2007, 05:31 AM) View Post

Congrats man, I know what a pain in the ass it can be to find exactly what you are looking for in a car.  I have been searching for about 2 months with no end in sight.  Funny you should mention that about the 240sx with the swap as there is a '92 for sale in my area that just had the swap done.  It's expensive but if everything checks out I might go for it.


how much are they asking? I can let you know if it's "expensive" based on the prices I've been seeing.

.... I passed up a large number of s13 240s looking for an s14

BTW have you ever seen an s12 chassis? it was available in the US from 84-88 as the 200sx and came with either 1.8L 4cyl turbo (CA18ET) or a 3.0L 6cyl NA (VG30DE)... it looks like a ridiculously cool vehicle if you can actually find one.... if they had those engine options in the s13 and s14 chassis I'd bet the "240" would have sold a hell of a lot better.
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« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2007, 09:27:00 AM »

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ May 16 2007, 02:29 PM) View Post

BTW have you ever seen an s12 chassis? it was available in the US from 84-88 as the 200sx and came with either 1.8L 4cyl turbo (CA18ET) or a 3.0L 6cyl NA (VG30DE)... it looks like a ridiculously cool vehicle if you can actually find one.... if they had those engine options in the s13 and s14 chassis I'd bet the "240" would have sold a hell of a lot better.


My step father used to own one. I would have been my first car, had my parents not sold it a few months before I got my liscense. Very nice little rides. Kind of reminds me of the hatchback Corolla GTSs
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« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2007, 01:23:00 PM »

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ May 16 2007, 02:29 PM) View Post

how much are they asking? I can let you know if it's "expensive" based on the prices I've been seeing.

.... I passed up a large number of s13 240s looking for an s14

BTW have you ever seen an s12 chassis? it was available in the US from 84-88 as the 200sx and came with either 1.8L 4cyl turbo (CA18ET) or a 3.0L 6cyl NA (VG30DE)... it looks like a ridiculously cool vehicle if you can actually find one.... if they had those engine options in the s13 and s14 chassis I'd bet the "240" would have sold a hell of a lot better.


8K is what they are asking.  I know that's a very high price but my hope is that it is in really good shape and not just some engine swap in a car that has been beat to shit.  Either way, no harm in checking it out.  
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« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2007, 06:36:00 PM »

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ May 16 2007, 03:59 PM) View Post

8K is what they are asking.  I know that's a very high price but my hope is that it is in really good shape and not just some engine swap in a car that has been beat to shit.  Either way, no harm in checking it out.



eeesh... that's kind a rediculous price... I'd say even if it was the cleanest s13 on the road it's over priced... Most of the SR swapped S13s I see are going for $4K-$5K

I'd say it's only worth 8K if the thing is flawless/tons of othe mods /body swapped. because that's what 8K will get you with an S13

btw.. is it a hatch/coupe/convertible?


Also an UPDATE on my car:

-still no word on the title yet (supposedly it can take up to 45 days sad.gif ) but I found a shop that specialized in 240s... the mechanic owns 8 himself! .. anyway he quoted me $1100 parts+labor to do the 5 speed swap which is about what I was expecting to pay just for parts alone (apparently he's got donor cars laying around and oodles of left over tranys from SR swaps so his part cost is pretty much 0 )... it works for me... I'll probably have it done the week after I get the car. The guy comes highly recommended from anyone I've ever talked to .

While it's cool to do my own work the price he quoted makes it nearly a wash and I don't even have half of the tools needed and no experience.... I'll just be happy to be driving a super clean 240 with a stick shift smile.gif... the tranny was the only thing I didn't like about the car.
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« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2007, 12:28:00 AM »

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ May 20 2007, 02:12 AM) View Post

eeesh... that's kind a rediculous price... I'd say even if it was the cleanest s13 on the road it's over priced... Most of the SR swapped S13s I see are going for $4K-$5K

I'd say it's only worth 8K if the thing is flawless/tons of othe mods /body swapped. because that's what 8K will get you with an S13

btw.. is it a hatch/coupe/convertible?



There are some things to consider though.  I live in a very dry climate so the odds of getting a rustbucket are almost non-existant.  There aren't very many 240sx's for sale in my area PERIOD.  Let alone ones with the engine swap already done.  As for hatch/coupe/convertible, it is a coupe (thank heavens) but not sure if it is a hatch or not.  I need to get some more details on it.


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« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2007, 10:37:00 AM »

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ May 20 2007, 08:04 AM) View Post

There are some things to consider though.  I live in a very dry climate so the odds of getting a rustbucket are almost non-existant.  There aren't very many 240sx's for sale in my area PERIOD.  Let alone ones with the engine swap already done.  As for hatch/coupe/convertible, it is a coupe (thank heavens) but not sure if it is a hatch or not.  I need to get some more details on it.



I disagree. 240SXs with swaps are rare anywhere. There just were never the numbers of them on the road that you see in some civics, etc.

As for rust, Id think in a dry climate a rust free car is a moot point. In Maine a rust free car is a selling point. In Arizona it shouldnt be, as all the cars should be rust free. I agree that 8k seems quite high.

Twisted: Do this engine swap.....
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« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2007, 02:50:00 AM »

Meh.  Either way I will probably check it out.  I am considering several options right now.  

1. 1995 Lexus SC300 (Rediculously high mileage of 133K, however it has no leaks and everything looks like it has been well maintained).  Not to mention everything checks out on carfax.  It is one of the smoothest riding sports coupes I have ever been in.  The car is currently on ebaymotors and I might get it for quite cheap.  

2. The aforementioned 240sx

3. 1994 Lexus ES300 (once again rediculously high mileage of 140K) but the price is right and it looks pretty    clean.

4. 1994 Z-28 Camaro with a 6 speed manual and 75K original miles.   Price is decent on it.
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« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2007, 06:23:00 AM »

History Lesson:
s13 hatchback:
The hatch back model has a really large/near horizonal rear windshield and blacked out triangular rear windows with a "240 SX" logo on the bottom window. The tail lights are ovals flattened on 2 sides with two big round lights in them (kind of like a mini-skyline)

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The hatchback is pretty much exactly the same car as the Japanese 180sx with the exception of the motor... the 180sx in Japan came with a number of flavors of SR20 or CA18 (the more common motor for which the car was named)

s13 Coupe:
the coupe has a really squared off almost sedan like rear window, much more vertical. tailights are really wide and square with the lights as horizontal lines.

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The coupe is similar to the same year Silvias in Japan (200sx in europe) with a few major differences, aside from the motor the front end was completely different. the us 240sx had the flip up headlights from the 180sx where the silvia/200sx had thin wide rectangular headlights with 2 or 3 projectors; no flip ups.

Putting the Silvia headlights on a hatck back is called a "sil-eighty" meaing silvia front end 180sx rear end... in the states it's often referred to as a "sil-forty" because it's a 240sx... sil-eightys were popular in Japan with drifters who wrecked their front end, the silvia front panels and lights were significantly lighter, cheaper, and more abundant then the flip up lights from the 180sx making it a popular swap. An aftermarket shop eventually started manufacturing a small number of official sil-eightys complete with badges and a few other supporting modifications. It was never an official Nissan product though.

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As for the price 240s are rare in general, though probably 80% of the 240s I see on the road or for sale are s13s and if I can get a near flawless example of an S13 with an engine swap for $5K in my rusty state of NH some schmuck in AZ asking $8K is a little ridiculous unless he's got some serious coin put into other areas of the car (coilovers/ Silvia front end conversion etc.). The only thing I would be warry of in your area is faded paint and a cracked dashboard.

Based on production numbers there were roughly 250K s13s manufactured from 89-94
Similarly the s14 (zenki) only saw about 30K manufactured from 95-96
and the s14a (kouki) only saw about 12K manufactured from 97-98

S14s will fetch a pretty penny... S13s are a dime a dozen... honestly for a car that old you see quite a few more of them on the road then any other car of that age due to their continued popularity.

S13 engine swaps are dirt cheap too... a period motor with all the fixins for a clean drop in with no metal working  will run you $1500-$2000 + labor.

S13s with an engine swap aren't really worth all that much. it's an old car with a cheap motor... and there are WAY more motors available from importers then there are people interested in doing the swap.
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« Reply #56 on: May 22, 2007, 02:27:00 PM »

It's all a moot point now anyways.  I just bought the Lexus SC300 today.   I will be posting pics soon. biggrin.gif
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« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2007, 01:16:00 PM »

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ May 22 2007, 05:03 PM) View Post

It's all a moot point now anyways.  I just bought the Lexus SC300 today.   I will be posting pics soon. biggrin.gif


Awesome... I wish my car buying experience was that easy dry.gif

the SC300 is a hot ride.
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« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2007, 12:36:00 AM »

Yes it is.  It has the NA straight 6 Supra engine.  As for buying a car being that easy, don't kid yourself.  I have been shopping for a car for about 2 months straight.  blink.gif  The car is a very smooth ride and purs like a kitten even at over 100MPH.  No straining or shaking like most vehicles.  It's also the only sports coupe I have ever been in where you don't feel every bump in the road.
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« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2007, 02:11:00 AM »

dammit jester.. pics or teh_ban  !!111one1!









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