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Owtlaw333

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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2006, 02:34:00 PM »

Don't get a car that's been in any kind of accident. Even if there doesn't appear to be anything wrong, you will find everything wrong with it (whether there really is or not), and you will regret it afterwords. Save urself the trouble and get something that has a clean record. It's not worth cheaping out now cuz you'll end up paying for it in the long run. If you want something cheaper, get a NA model. You'll find one cheaper and insurance won't suck as much either. And there's always room to upgrade (and keep insurance low at the same time  smile.gif )
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2006, 05:59:00 PM »

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check out the very front of the car (where the toyota emblem is), not the windshield.

thats what looks like a reflection to me, either way though i wouldnt buy that one
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2006, 07:26:00 PM »

My buddys got a 90 Supra that he did an engine drop in and since the VIN says its NA even though he put a turbo charger on it the insurance is $90 a month with State Farm, he did the Stear Clear thing otherwise is would be $180 and he didnt ask about the turbo charger cause he thought they might wonder why.
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2006, 04:38:00 PM »

QUOTE(GearGuy2001 @ May 9 2006, 02:33 AM) View Post

My buddys got a 90 Supra that he did an engine drop in and since the VIN says its NA even though he put a turbo charger on it the insurance is $90 a month with State Farm, he did the Stear Clear thing otherwise is would be $180 and he didnt ask about the turbo charger cause he thought they might wonder why.


There's generally enough difference between the base model and upper level model that it's almost more cost effective to buy the better model. I know on a lot of cars the suspension is different, different gearing, (Maybe tougher tranny), better brakes, etc
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2006, 07:00:00 PM »

QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ May 8 2006, 09:41 PM) View Post

Don't get a car that's been in any kind of accident. Even if there doesn't appear to be anything wrong, you will find everything wrong with it (whether there really is or not), and you will regret it afterwords. Save urself the trouble and get something that has a clean record. It's not worth cheaping out now cuz you'll end up paying for it in the long run. If you want something cheaper, get a NA model. You'll find one cheaper and insurance won't suck as much either. And there's always room to upgrade (and keep insurance low at the same time  smile.gif )



I agree on the damaged vehicle part.  Sometime there is unseen damage.  Case and point, my buddy and I got into a wreck with his caravan about 2 weeks before his parents sold it.  After the wreck we looked it over pretty well and the only damage we saw was a crumpled lisence plate which he straightened out.  About a week after he sold it, they got a nasty call from the current owner who called up wondering why the engine block was cracked.  The point is that you never know what is affected in an accident until you have a very through mechanic put it up on a hoist and look it over from top to bottom.
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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2006, 07:21:00 AM »

QUOTE(ndsbass @ May 7 2006, 10:51 AM) View Post
Ok the car is missing a hood scoop in the middle pictures, but the radiator or intercooler, whichever that is in the front of the car, looks identical. I honestly dont know what to think, but I think getting a car from Ca is a little unrealistic for me. I think Im gonna turn the guy down.


Although I am also certain this is a scam, the paint around the emblem is black. Light is reflecting making it appear as gray.

In the picture with no scoop it also has different wheels so for this to be legit he'd have to have done all the upgrades at the same time. If you're still in constact with him ask him when the upgrades were done.

Have you guys ever read the "Scam the Scammer" stories? I'm thinkin this might be fun.
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2006, 01:10:00 PM »

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Have you guys ever read the "Scam the Scammer" stories? I'm thinkin this might be fun.


http://www.419eater....tml/baiting.htm

but im not gonna continue it. he hasnt been emailing me, ill just leave it at that
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jesterrace777

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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2006, 03:07:00 AM »

QUOTE(ndsbass @ May 13 2006, 08:17 PM) View Post

http://www.419eater....tml/baiting.htm

but im not gonna continue it. he hasnt been emailing me, ill just leave it at that


Heh.  I did scam the scammer once.  Damn, it felt good.  There was a guy here once upon a time who ripped off several folks (ie sent them fake modchips, shoddily painted XBOX cases, ect.).  So I saw that he had an auction on ebay and I talked him into doing a whole bunch of stuff for me.  People on here were naturally giving him shit about his auction and being a scammer and he came back on here bragging about how he managed to sell all of this stuff and how he was going to make a bunch of money.  All he ended up getting for ending his auction early was a letter from me essentially giving him the bird.  Needless to say he hasn't been very active here or on ebay as of late.   laugh.gif
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speed_racer88

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« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2006, 10:04:00 PM »

My advice is to fly out and have a look at the car, if it's for real then make the payment and drive it home. If it is for real then you save on waiting and paying for the car to be shipped to you. If its fake then enjoy your stay in cali.
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jesterrace777

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« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2006, 11:05:00 PM »

QUOTE(speed_racer88 @ May 24 2006, 05:11 AM) View Post

My advice is to fly out and have a look at the car, if it's for real then make the payment and drive it home. If it is for real then you save on waiting and paying for the car to be shipped to you. If its fake then enjoy your stay in cali.


He pointed out earlier that he really didn't have the money to do that.  Honestly given the travel investment it would still be a waste unless he had been planning a trip to that area already.  
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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2006, 08:33:00 AM »

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First of all, what is an escrow company? Why do I care?

Legitimate escrow companies, commonly used when buying a house, are trusted third parties who hold the money until the goods are received by you the buyer. The escrow tracks the product when it ships and verifies delivery to you the buyer. Once you accept delivery and your inspection period ends, the escrow pays the seller. eBay recommends purchases over $500 use an escrow. eBay uses an exclusive escrow service through Escrow.com, a licensed, audited escrow company incorporated in California. Slick fraudulent escrow sites appear legit and are run by fake "sellers". You never get your product.


How Fake Escrow Scams Operate: The scheming "sellers" have ads on Yahoo Motors, AutoTrader, Craigs List, eBay Auctions, eBay Motors, every known vehicle and motorcycle classifieds site, Amazon Z-Shops, etc. This Internet fraud has become an epidemic, but you need not be paranoid, just be prepared. Here's how the fraud works. You are buying a used car (or other product) on eBay, Autotrader.com, CycleTrader.com, Yahoo Classifieds, etc., and you see a hot BMW or Mini Cooper, or Camry, or Mercedes, or Harley Davidson whose selling price is much lower than other listings for the same item. So you ask the seller a question. The seller replies with a "Dear Sir" form letter, rarely do they mention your name, it's all scripted. It usually has poor grammar and spelling too. He wants you to use a particular escrow site, "he's used them many times already." He is offering to pay shipping for the car! Do you know how much shipping is on a car across the U.S.? It's usually about $900. And he's giving it to you for free? That's Red Flag #1. Take a look at this sample scammer email below with grammar and spelling errors. Red Flag #2.

Actual email we got from a scammer on Yahoo Autos

To: Reply to Yahoo!Autos Ad
Subject: Re: Reply to ad: 2004 BMW M3, posted on Yahoo! Autos[/font]
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in purchasing my BMW M3.The car price is only 12500 USD and the price inclued all the shipping taxes.The car is regesterid in U.S. but located in London U.K. whit me and my family becouse i am in U.S. Marine serving our country here in London.After i finish the mision here i want to spend the rest of my life in London.The title is clear that way you will not have any problems to regesterid in your name.Since this is an over seas purchase and in order for both parts to be safe we will use a third party to make this deal.The car will be shipped by Luftransa Air Cargo and she will be delivred at your home address in 8 days.I will send you whit the car the Title in original and the Bill Of Sale

Email me back ASAP if you are realy interested to my beutiful car.

Kind regards

Notice how they don't address you by name, they leave it generic, because they are using a script. What a moron scammer. Let's see, the last time I tried to fly just myself to the UK on Lufthansa Air, it was $600. And "she" is going to fly a BMW to my house for free on "Laughtansa!" I don't know who is more foolish here, the scammer for actually thinking someone will fall for that line, or the fool who actually falls for that line.

You'll discover later via a WHOIS search that the escrow site you were told to use was only created the week before, hence the liar could not have used them several times. Like a fool, you register a new escrow account at the online escrow site that the seller recommended, usually a polished looking site. See our screen shots further down. The escrow sites list "license numbers" with the state. Some generously sprinkle official looking logos from the BBB, Verisign Secure, TRUSTe, and Internet Fraud Complaint Center! Some fake escrows are brazen and warn you about internet fraud, and even link to the Internet Fraud Complaint Center! Most fake escrows falsely claim Copyright 1999 or 2000 to appear they have been around a while. Feeling secure, you send your $28,000 to the escrow company and lose it forever.

You never hear from the "seller" again. He walks away from his Yahoo email box that he created for this scam, does not answer the throw away cell phone he stole to act as his phone number, and any emails to the escrow site go unanswered, because they just walked away from it and setup the next phony escrow already.

Fake escrows herd you into 3 payment methods:
Payment Type #1: Makes you pay via Western Union cash transfer usually to Spain or Italy (real bad move, never pay for auctions with WU!)
Payment Type #2: Makes you unknowingly send payment into the E-Gold, or E-Bullion networks, EvoCash or E-Dinar type currency transfers.
Payment Type #3: Makes you wire payment directly from your checking account to what you think is the "escrow company's" bank account.

Hey, stupid! Let me get this straight. You're going to blindly use the escrow service the seller tells you to use without basic verifications? That's like letting a real estate agent choose your property attorney. You're not going to verify the escrow site's license with your state? Or call the phone number and talk to a human first? Takes 5 minutes! You're going to Western Union $8,000 to someone you don't know? Do you really believe some idiot in the Netherlands is really going to pay the transport charges and fees to get your car to the U.S.? You're not going to verify the escrow site's usually non-working phone number? I have a better idea. I'm going to send you a postage prepaid box with my address on it. Just stick your wallet and your checkbook in the box and mail it back to me. Wouldn't you rather give all your money to me, someone you like, rather than deal with the heartache of knowing you got scammed in a car fraud by some overseas scammer? Let's turn you into a donkey.

CarBuyingTips.com ALERT: Many scammers claim they will pay shipping and transport charges, even from Germany or Switzerland! That's what lures in the suckers. Don't fall for this. It costs $900 to ship a car across the U.S. I don't know any seller who would pay for shipping a car. Use your head.

CarBuyingTips.com ALERT: Western Union, E-Gold, and MoneyGram are NOT appropriate methods of paying for auction purchases, or any type of escrow. Western Union is for you to send cash to your drunk jobless loser brother when he runs out of crack and needs to borrow money for "rent". Sometimes the scammers send you a fake email "from eBAy", telling you it's safe to use Western Union. eBay would never in a million years tell you this. In fact, eBay warns users NOT to use Western Union to pay for auctions.

The Dirty Dozen Common Fake Escrow Site Designs

There are many designs of escrow frauds you'll encounter, but these screen shots below are the 12 most common fake escrow designs we shut down. Once we get them shutdown, they usually carbon copy the site design over to a new name and start all over again days later, like the Whack A Mole games at the carnival. We have shut down over 600 fake escrow sites. The dirty dozen escrow frauds below have appeared over 50 times each under various domain names. Study these fake escrow screen shots, see how slick they look. If the other party tells you to use a site that looks like these, it's a scam for sure, no question about it, no doubt at all.

CarBuyingTips.com ALERT: Escrow sites with the word "Safe" or Secure" in their name are neither safe, nor secure
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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2006, 09:32:00 PM »

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Hello,
You can find all the info about my car at :
 
http://www.mysupra.1stdeal.com/
 
In this moment the car is located in Hamilton,NY but don't worry I will pay shipping to your house.I recently moved to Birmingham, United Kingdom due to work and family. I lost my job and now the bank knocks at my door to pay the rate for the house I bought so I really need to sell the car fast to solve this issue. If you are really interested the price is $9,300 shipping included.The car condition is excelent, perfect mechanical and esthetically(how you can see in the picture), with no scratches, no accidents, I have the title in hand, clear title.

Please email me back and let me know if you're still interested in the car.
Thanks,
Chris


sounds familiar, eh? i think i might screw around with this asshole  biggrin.gif
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« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2006, 09:56:00 PM »

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thanks for the quick reply. thats a very nice supra you have on your
hands. I just have a few questions.

1. With the CAI, has the MAS been matched to the ECU for a correct
fuel/air ratio? if so, who programmed the ECU or is there an EMS
available for the DIT to the FOSHIZZLE on the ITR?
2. Why are 1998 tail lights a mod on a 1998 supra?
3. Do the CDs in the back of the car come with the car, or are they a
seperate buy?
4. How do I pay for this car?

I am very interested in your car so please hurry with a response!!!

thanks

-ndsbass


heres a link to the ad on cars.com
http://www.cars.com/...t...345&aff=dnj
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« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2006, 10:15:00 PM »

hahahah, this outta be good cool.gif
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« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2006, 08:02:00 AM »

Nice, I ran into one of these guys as well while trying to find a bike to buy. I found a 2002 YZF, mint condition, for $3500. I figured it was to good to be true, the guy supposedly just moved to the UK, didnt tell me where the bike was (that was the main thing I was concerned with, cause if it _were_ in the US I have enough frequent flyer miles I'd go and see it) so I kinda gave up on it, but strung him along for a little bit...

IE:
Me: "So I was noticing its low miles, which means it hasent been rode much? Have you had the carbs cleaned as sitting for a while would cause them to get gunk in them" (Note: These bikes are fuel injected)
Him: "Yes, carbs cleaned often and gas that good always used"

I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but when I finnaly said "Well, if the bike is in the US, I'll just fly out and see it" he stopped emailing me, oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
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