Topic: Celica/Rice/Import vs. Domestic Thread (Read 297 times)

mrright01 · « **Reply #60 on:** October 11, 2005, 08:24:00 AM »

QUOTE(RichMR2 @ Oct 11 2005, 02:20 PM)

So try to find a proper reason why people are so aggressive towards show cars. If you personally dont like how they look then fine, thats your opinion, you dont have to look, drive or see them.

nope, i don't like the look, yes that's my opinion, sorry, but short of plucking my eyeballs out i do have to see them

one of my good friends drives a riced out honda accord, i could care less, at least his body kit is painted the same color as the rest of his car unlike the non-show car "ricers" i disliked who thinks the world is agianst them and they have to defend themselves even when not attacked. oh wait, that sounds like you. and i said my theory is prolly not the best way to judge, and that cars with parts just for show are useless IMO. i know a few guys with turbos that look good, but are unusable because of their size and barely make boost near redline, but boy do they look good with the hood up.....rice. so calm down, how can you put your feelings into words perfectally? if you've ever really been in love then you know it's not easy to explain how something makes you feel, and to define ever little piece.

no i don't like your car, mainly because it's not my cup of tea. i like mr2's, new a guy with one that was stupid fast. and that may be another reason i don't like your car, because of your choices, you could have not gotten part A and gotten part B that would have made your car fast. but it's your car, not mine, so i keep those thoughts to myself save for a "ricer" comment that might be thrown in here and there. don't take things so seriously, if someone doesn't like your car, f*** em. i know i get shit from a bunch of people about my POS, but i love it, i'd have to really total it to get rid of it.

and FF for traction? you've got to be kidding, cars are FF now a days for a few reasons, the main one cost, it's cheaper to have everything in one area instead of shoved under the car like FR. and yeah, it'll give good traction in the snow, but i wouldn't say better than FR, because with a locking diff(which most FR's don't have), good tires and a little extra weight in the trunk you can't stop em. not to mention they are way funner in the snow. and FF are idiot proof in the rain/etc, the main problem is pushing into turns, then people just slow down because they can't turn, but in FR if the rear steps out it's harder than just slowing down. less accidents in theory for FF

till later
jason

Psykomantis00 · « **Reply #61 on:** October 11, 2005, 08:36:00 AM »

QUOTE(thewickedjester @ Oct 11 2005, 01:32 PM)

Because theres a big difference between adding a few cosmetic things to your 12 Second car, its quite different to throw a coffee can muffler, a few graphics, and a body kit onto your stock Celica, or whatever you have. Thats rice, thats why people get aggressive, because the stereotypical 'ricer' beleives himself to be the hottest shit on the street when he hasnt even touced the engine bay, save for a 'air intake'....

mrright01 · « **Reply #62 on:** October 11, 2005, 08:43:00 AM »

yeah, well i haven't been to any drift events yet in person, because i haven't been able to drive 6-9 hours north to new england for a 1-2 day event then drive home, but hopefully i will be able to soon. many of my friends from online forums have competed in drift events. but from vids/pictures friends send me they are the only one on the track, and i remember hearing that a friends car got tons of crowd chear, but the judges were all asian and wouldn't let a euro wagon win. so that's what my comment was based on

thewickedjester · « **Reply #63 on:** October 11, 2005, 08:48:00 AM »

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The stereotypical ricer, bollocks!! I know ALOT of people who have show cars (or rice in your opinions), they dont act that way at all!

Again, I have nothing against show cars. Though I personally would never own one, I beleive that you can get an import car to look very nice. My issue comes with the attitudes, not the cars themselves.

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Stereotypical American is overweight but do I say "Ha, your american, you fat c**t go get some junk food!"? No!

1) Why not? Say what you think, hold nothing back. Its just words...
2) Jesus christ, just say it, cunt, bit fucking deal.

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stereotypical anti ricers are complete cocks who dont know shit about cars!

Going by what I consider rice, most anti-ricers are people who KNOW about cars and get pissed by lack of engine work on cars that people claim to be super-cars. Wether they drive imports or not.

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So try to find a proper reason why people are so aggressive towards show cars. If you personally dont like how they look then fine, thats your opinion, you dont have to look, drive or see them.

You know, you keep bringing up 'show cars' like thats what a body kit does, makes the otherwise-stock car into a show winner. So lets clear this up, heres rice, this is not a show car, this is a car that someone invested nothing but an Air Intake into, threw on a wing and body kit, and thinks hes the 'master of the road':
user posted image

Now the car you linked to, that wasnt neccissarily rice, in my personall opinion I beleive engine should always come before cosmetics. But the car you showed wasnt rice, it was just a car that had cosmetics as it was a show car, theres a difference. But the car you linked to, wasnt anything close to 'just a body kit and muffler'.

jesterrace777 · « **Reply #64 on:** October 11, 2005, 09:32:00 AM »

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Oct 11 2005, 07:34 AM)

I bet to differ. Ive seen a V12 super car get destroyed by a Flat 4 on a road coarse. It is all about the driver.

mrright01 · « **Reply #65 on:** October 11, 2005, 10:12:00 AM »

http://www.sjr-scca....20_results.html
second chart down is a forum buddy of mine in the 83 toyota corolla, 2nd overall in autocross on street tires with under 90hp. driver and car setup can make a difference.

just playing devils advocate

Psykomantis00 · « **Reply #66 on:** October 11, 2005, 10:26:00 AM »

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Oct 11 2005, 05:43 PM)

Where have you seen this and what kind of HP/Torque was each car pushing? Did the V-12 have a major mechanical malfunction during the race? I'm sorry man but your credibility here has been shot to shit time and time again. You do have some knowledge of cars but everything else you just seem to pull out of your ass or reading rediculous claims on the I-net. Anyways, anytime you want to try to prove that, you just let me know. I consider myself an average driver at best. Since you seem and claim to know everything about cars, I challange you to show up in a stock Yugo, Ford Festiva and run against my stock N/A RX-7. I will kill you in just about any contest regaurdless of how good you drive.

jesterrace777 · « **Reply #67 on:** October 11, 2005, 11:25:00 AM »

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Oct 11 2005, 06:37 PM)

Top gear. Both cars were stock. One was a V12 Diablo I think, not for sure, but I do know it had 12 cylinders. Other car was a Flat 4 Sti. Both stock, both AWD, V12 spun out because of the pressure the Flat 4 was putting on him. Btw, both were professional drivers.

Hercules Q Einstein · « **Reply #68 on:** October 11, 2005, 02:12:00 PM »

QUOTE(RichMR2 @ Oct 11 2005, 05:31 PM)

Im not doing engine mods because in order to get anything over 200HP from a stock 3SGE engine I would have to spend thousands on it for tiny gains, if I wanted a car to do engine mods on I wouldnt have got an MR2.

Hercules Q Einstein · « **Reply #69 on:** October 11, 2005, 02:18:00 PM »

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bet to differ. Ive seen a V12 super car get destroyed by a Flat 4 on a road coarse. It is all about the driver.

Sure this is such crap. I think i have already proved you just pull everything you say out of your ass.

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Another car that would your ass to you in a pretty package with a bow would be the Ariel Atom. The older model with the supercharged integra motor. Faster than street bikes, handles better than F1 cars, and has 4 cylinders instead of 12, and still a street car and not a race car.

WTF? The Atom isnt even a street legal car. It doesnt have a roof or windshield (or any safty features). Sure cant be a daily driver. Its a toy, not a car to be compared to cars that follow standard saftey rules. Its definently NOT a street car.

Rylinkus · « **Reply #70 on:** October 11, 2005, 02:51:00 PM »

Ok here's my points.

Psykomantis00 · « **Reply #71 on:** October 11, 2005, 03:09:00 PM »

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Oct 11 2005, 07:36 PM)

AWD? Since when has the Diablo been AWD? BTW as for the Ariel, that proves nothing. You were arguing that a driver with a significantly inferrior Torque/HP ratio could kill a higher HP vehicle provided he had really good driving/racing skills. Of course a Supercharged 4-banger that is lighter than my N/A RX-7 could give it a run for it's money. That is why I suggested to really prove you theory to take a completely stock Yugo or Ford Festiva (3 or 4 cylinder econobox) and put it up against my RX-7. So tell me Mr. Know-it-all, do you still think you could beat my RX-7 given the circumstances and prove that drivers are what matters no matter what they are driving?

Psykomantis00 · « **Reply #72 on:** October 11, 2005, 03:17:00 PM »

QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Oct 11 2005, 10:29 PM)

Sure this is such crap. I think i have already proved you just pull everything you say out of your ass.

Rylinkus · « **Reply #73 on:** October 11, 2005, 03:17:00 PM »

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Oct 11 2005, 11:20 PM)

It was awd, dont know if it was a diablo or not thats just what sticks out in my mind. It was a V12 awd supercar tho, that got molested by a flat 4 boxer engine.

Psykomantis00 · « **Reply #74 on:** October 11, 2005, 04:10:00 PM »

QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Oct 11 2005, 11:28 PM)

Actually Lambos arent meant to be astonishing handling supercars. More loud, brash, etc. But several of them are indeed AWD. As a matter of fact Im not sure theres even a RWD Lambo made anymore.

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