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Hercules Q Einstein

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« Reply #75 on: September 08, 2005, 10:00:00 AM »

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 8 2005, 06:10 AM)
Ohh and also you are completely fucking retarded. If you will read the VERY LAST LINE of the post that YOU QUOTED, you will notice I said V6 and not I6. Verifying that you are fucking illiterate.
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jesterrace777

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« Reply #76 on: September 08, 2005, 12:21:00 PM »

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 8 2005, 03:44 PM)
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« Reply #77 on: September 08, 2005, 03:01:00 PM »

QUOTE(Psykomantis00 @ Sep 8 2005, 06:08 AM)

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« Reply #78 on: September 09, 2005, 03:41:00 AM »

Yup, especially considering the fact that the cars that he has listed are only supercars if they have gigantic turbos on them pushing rediculous amounts of boost.  Hardly anymore efficient than a V8 or V10.  The only difference is that outside of the supercar range (most people can't afford supercars anyways), you will get far more performance out of a domestic machine with less money invested.  You've got to make up your mind.  Imports definitely are the champs for fuel efficiency but those are for the 4-banger econo cars that ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR PERFORMANCE!!!!!!!  Sure you can make them perform but by the time you get them to the point where they could outperform a Z-28 you have lost everything that makes them of value.  1.  For the cost of making the average 4-banger import outperform the Z-28, you could buy at least two Z-28s.  2.  By the time you get the average 4-banger to the point where it could beat out a Z-28, you have completely shot your fuel efficiency advantage to shit.  News flash BIG Turbo=SHITTY GAS MILEAGE!!!!!!!!!!  Even on a 4-banger.  3. By the time you have got the import into a position where it could beat a Z-28, it is pretty much worthless as a daily driver.  

Bottom line:  Imports are excellent for gas mileage, drifting and handling, THEY ARE NOT THE MOST ECONOMICAL CHOICE FOR SPORTS CARS!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #79 on: September 09, 2005, 01:59:00 PM »

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Sep 9 2005, 11:52 AM)
News flash BIG Turbo=SHITTY GAS MILEAGE!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #80 on: September 09, 2005, 02:14:00 PM »

But the whole efficiency thing is bullshit. People assume that a a 4 cylinder always gets better gas mileage then a V8. And generally they do. Because generally the V8 has more power. Start getting into I4s that produce hp and the gas mileage drops severely. Why? Because all the power a car has is produced by combustion of fuel and oxygen. It's a requirement. And more oxygen and more fuel equates to more power. You add a turbo to get more power on your car. What things do you need to think about? The ECU, fuel pump, injectors, etc. Because you need to make sure you can supply the added fuel that the engine needs not to run lean and burn up. Well dumpin more fuel into the engine means *gasp* worse gas mileage. As I've said, if an import is more efficient explain how. With science, facts, and numbers; not vague claims. I know how hard this is because I've tried to argue the wonder that is the S2000 a few times on other forums and a senior member ripped me to shreds while showing me the light. That hp per liter while an amusing fact means nothing if your MPG/hp is identical between 2 engines. And so called "Newer efficient" technology isn't truly amazing unless you can use it to make a faster, more powerful car without sacrificing gas mileage.

And I have friends that have Corrados, 240SXs, and DSMs faster then my Z28. The other fact common among all of them is that they ALL get worse gas mileage then me, (especially if they get on the highway), and they all require Super like me.
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« Reply #81 on: September 09, 2005, 03:28:00 PM »

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Hercules Q Einstein

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« Reply #82 on: September 09, 2005, 06:31:00 PM »

QUOTE(ubernewb @ Sep 9 2005, 11:39 PM)
true.. but that's why i never argued for high-horsepower efficiency.. i know mileage drops when more hp is brought into the picture, that's just the nature of the beast.
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« Reply #83 on: September 09, 2005, 07:09:00 PM »

QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Sep 10 2005, 02:42 AM)
Great attitude about it... i just wish all Civic/Cavalier/CRX/Eclipse/etc owners felt that way. I swear i hate when soneone driving a riced out econobox comes up to me reving his engine. Its stupid.
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Rylinkus

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« Reply #84 on: September 10, 2005, 08:10:00 AM »

smile.gif There's always someone who does these things...
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Psykomantis00

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« Reply #85 on: September 10, 2005, 09:01:00 AM »

QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 10 2005, 04:21 PM)
I know a guy with a 94 TT Stang actually. smile.gif There's always someone who does these things...
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« Reply #86 on: September 10, 2005, 10:33:00 AM »

You can certainly use an FMIC on a S/Ced car though. Not that there's anything wrong with a turbo setup either. Buth are cool options.
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« Reply #87 on: September 10, 2005, 11:11:00 AM »

QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Sep 10 2005, 06:44 PM)
You can certainly use an FMIC on a S/Ced car though. Not that there's anything wrong with a turbo setup either. Buth are cool options.
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« Reply #88 on: September 10, 2005, 12:39:00 PM »

I cant even name a mustang forum. I cant imagine its that rare a mod.
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« Reply #89 on: September 10, 2005, 12:55:00 PM »

QUOTE(ubernewb @ Sep 9 2005, 10:10 PM)
just to support that statement, my buddy at work has a massive t60 turbo in his 240 ... it's faster than shit (but still a decent daily driver) but he gets about 15mpg.
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