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[AfterTheInsanity]

QUOTE(edbtz123 @ Nov 20 2005, 10:00 PM)

-I put a second RAM chip into my xbox, and then reassembled box and turned it on.  The Box reset three times and then came up with a flashing red/orange light.  If I push the eject button the dashboard comes up fine.  Sometimes when the box is turned on, i get a red/green flashing light, the eject button still makes the box work.  I loaded unleashx to check amount of memory and it says 64MB.  One other thing to note is that I left the xbox on for a little while and it shut off (kinda) with a blinking orange light, and i hit the eject button and it loaded back again.

Flashing orange = overheating, but if it worked perfectly after you turned it on.. Hmm.. All the fans plugged in?

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I think the second RAM chip I put in may be bad, anyone else have any ideas?

Thats my best guess. Try pulling the chip and testing. If it works, it was a bad chip.. If it doesnt work... Youve hurt your motherboard

[AfterTheInsanity]

QUOTE(edbtz123 @ Nov 20 2005, 11:21 PM)

I got the FRAO (orange and red flashing) most of the time (sometimes FRAG , red and green) and whenever I hit the eject button the dashboard loads and everything works fine.

Thats really wierd, I wonder why it would only boot when you hit eject....

QUOTE(edbtz123 @ Nov 20 2005, 11:21 PM)

One thing I would like to know is that does anyone know if XBMC or UnleashX will detect more RAM if you only put some of the extra chips in?
How do u test the chip?

AFAIK it will only detect 64mb or 128mb, nothing in between. And by test, I meant turn the motherboard on to see if it does the FRAO/FRAG thing or not.

[Perplexer]

Don't touch that chip.  You can only reliably test once all four chips have been installed.

THEN, if you get flashing red/orange, it's a short or loose pin.

[Dano2k0]

Your problem is your trying to use 6 chips instead of 8, thats never going to work correctly as Perplexer said.

I recommend you finish the installation off and then try and boot it up, if it doesn't work, check for shorts and dry joints, always use plenty of flux to flow the joints properlly, you can never use too much flux.

Ive known alot of people try and fit one or more chip before installing them all and its never worked.

One thing i will clear up, removing the second chip is a bad idea, just finish off the installation and see how things work out, if your soldering skills are good enough then you'll get it working with time and patience.

Secondly, fragging red and orange on a RAM upgrade is NOT an overheat issue, its a dry joint, broken RAM chip, or a short between one or more pins.

Let us know how you get on, and good luck  

[AfterTheInsanity]

QUOTE(edbtz123 @ Nov 21 2005, 02:19 PM)

Also I may have fried one of the chips when removing the RAM (this may be the problem).  I remember it getting very hot when using a 30Watt soldering Iron to remove it.  Does anyone know if a 30Watt Iron can get hot enough to fry a RAM chip if the iron is left on one of the pins for too long?

Unless you hold it for about five seconds or more (which is hard to do anyways, if youre careful) it shouldnt have hurt it. Wont hurt to try. You can always get another chip, or set of chips, from Perplexer.

[AfterTheInsanity]

Maybe that second chip was bad after all?

[Cappi]

I am not sure on ram upgrade but i think you can only have an even # of chips on the board not odd like 5 or 7. I may be wrong on this though Perplexer would know alot more about this than me.

[Dano2k0]

I doubt it being a faulty RAM chip if they were ok when removed from the other motherboard, if it had other issues then your RAM chips should be ok. It is possible you could of over-heated them and blown one or more, or even possibly you could have had a static wipe out on one or more of the chips.

To be honest to me your problem sounds very much liike you have a short / dry joint somewhere, i'm guessing all your using is a small tipped soldering iron or possibly even a bigger one, this is so easy to end up with 20 or more dry joints, you have to get a small knife or something and go round pressing on each pin and see if any move, if they do push them back in to place and solder them down seperatly.

Also, i don't know exactlly how you have gone about soldering these down, but if you have just soldered all the pins together then solder wicked over them you will most deffinatly have shorts in probably all the chips, i have seen alot of attempts at this and fixed them for others, and most of the time you can't see the solder shorts, as they are under the RAM chips themselfs, you can use a multimeter to check for them, but i don't recommend it as multimeters supply a power output, if you power a chip up differently to how its meant to be then your going to blow it anyway, so take care if you do this.

It will never work correctly if you don't use all the RAM chips, you may get it to boot by hitting the eject button if your lucky enough, when all the chips are installed it should boot correctly though if your install has gone to plan.

Something i forgot to ask in my previous post, and i'm really hoping you have done this before you attempted to do the mod, and that is done relevant research into this and use the correct type of RAM chips for the correct motherboard? IE V1.0/1.1 motherboards can use ALL RAM chips from any version motherboard. V1.2/1.3/1.4/1.5 can only use RAM chips from V1.2/1.3/1.4/1.5/1.6a Motherboards, these motherboards can't use the older RAM from V1.0/1.1 motherboards, nor can they use the different RAM used on V1.6b motherboards.

Also, i'm guessing you have installed the RAM chips the correct way around on each socket? ie pin 100 goes to pad 100 on the RAM chips solder pad on the motherboard.

I will say though, flashing red does sound a little strange, i think in all the upgrades i have done i have had this issue once, to be honest it was that long ago i can't 100% remember how i fixed it, i personally think this could be caused by using the wrong RAM chips on the motherboard, but i'm hoping you have used the correct ones. It could easily be possible you have one or more dead chips on the motherboard also.

One last thing i will deffinatly recommend is check ALL the small capacitors and resistors etc around the RAM upgrade points and make sure you haven't knocked any of these off by accident. It is very easy done, ive done it myself a couple of times and had to replace them. It can be a pain to find out where youve knocked one off  but a very good close inspection should show any missing components, this could very easily be your problem.

I can't think of much more to say right now, so just post back and let us know how youve got on, and possibly any progress or other information you can add for us.

Good luck  

[Big_Ted]

Got exactly the same symptoms as the first post, 3 boot then frag press eject a few times the X logo appears and dash loads with frag but no error numbers.
it's a spare one i got knocking around so not in a case at the moment just wired up on the bench so got no fan can't run it for long, it's a 1.3 board. used ram off a dead 1.3 board that was a bothched mod chip so assuming the ram was ok.


Every time i do boot it i have to put the langaue date and time in to it. i don't get flubber screen just X logo.

looks like it flashes orange and red.

Ideas???

Ted

[Big_Ted]

Installed it into a case, just tsoped it, now i get some flubber ani and it boots as far as the big X with excuter 2 under it and hangs, still flashing red green sometimes orange red but just now it started flashing just red. Flashes red/orange press eject and flashes just red.

Very strange.

[edbtz123]

I Removed all the additional RAM, turned it on and I get green for a second and the flashing red.  I think I may have fried the clock cause my LClk voltage on the LPC is messed up, it is really weird and changing.  Last time I checked it was reading 24V DC and 30V AC , and when I left it on for a couple minutes the 24V DC changed to 16V DC.  I know the DC reading should be like .2 Volts, but does anybody know waht the AC reading should be? And does anyone know which part has to be replaced to fix the LClk?