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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2004, 09:21:00 AM »

Can't you just buy an altima and call it a day?

Anyway, what exactly makes it legalized?  Doesn't it require special liscensing?
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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2004, 10:13:00 AM »

I'd rather have a Maxima. And theres  an NA Fairlady Z up the road from me. Im gonna take a walk and check it out later this afternoon. It could be a fun car.

I think the biggest obstactles to making a Skyline US road legal have to do with emissions and crash testing. To get them to pass emissions some work will have to be done. What's required varies car to car. The crash test  thing requires that X amount be brought into the US, crash tested, and certified. Last time I checked only Motorex, www.skylineGTR.com, had done these tests and had the paperwork allowing them to make the newer Skylines road legal. And certainly they'd keep their liscenses private to stay the exclusive importer as long as possible. I think this only deals with the R33 and up as I think there are a few companies that can drag R32s over here though I may be wrong. I believe Motorexs website has a good deal of info on US legalization.

http://www.skylinegtr.com/q&a_pg.html answers alot of Skyline questions.
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2004, 10:36:00 AM »

I guess the only question left is what you'd do at tollbooths?

Also..that Fairlady, how do you know it's not just a 350Z?
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2004, 10:53:00 AM »

You know nemt, with all the cars Ive looked at that have been RHD Ive never once thought about tollbooths, drivethroughs, ATMs...... I guess it'd be a complete PITA if you didn't have a passenger in the car.

The Fairlady Z is the last generation of the 300ZX. It's not the TT version that Im looking at but the Naturally Aspirated one.

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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2004, 02:00:00 PM »

I could've sworn Fairlady Z was the japanese designation for the current 350Z, not the 300ZX.  That car looks like the regular 2+2 model of the 300ZX, probably a 96.
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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2004, 04:53:00 PM »

The fairlady is just the Japaneese designation of the 300ZXs last generation. The one shown was just a quick pic pulled from car domain to show what the car is if people didn't know. All that said, it's a moot point since I will not be buying.

What seemed like a good buy for a running Z became a much worse buy upon finding the car had a blown engine. Oh well.
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2004, 05:22:00 PM »

I believe you're wrong..

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The 300ZX and 350Z are completely different cars..and the Fairlady designation is used to refer to the 350Z.  I don't know what the 300ZX was called in Japan, but I'm almost certain it wasn't Fairlady Z.
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2004, 06:46:00 PM »

Dude, pick up any older video game from before the 350 was even out and the 300zx is referred to as the Fairlady. Guess they carried the name over.
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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2004, 06:51:00 PM »

Taken from a website......

NISSAN Fairlady Z

1969 : The first generation Fairlady "Z" was introduced. It featured a long nose and a short rear deck. The Fairlady Z was offered with two type engines : the L20 is a 1998cc L-6 OHC engine producing 130 horsepower and maximum speed of 85km/h, the S20 1989cc L-6 DOHC engine produced 160horsepower and maximum speed of 210km/h.
The S20 engine installed in the "Z432" was a L-6 DOHC, four valve per cylinder engine breathing through Solex carburetors. It produced 160 horsepower and 18.0kg of torque. It had a maximum speed of 210km/h. The "Z432-R" was later introduced which had lighter body. It was equipped with FRP bucket seats with a four point safety harness, a rear spoiler, a FRP under diffuser, acrylic windows, a FRP hood, a 100 liter fuel tank, and an oil cooler. The air cleaner, a wind washer, heater, center console, a radio, a clock, and glove box lid were removed for weight savings. The body panels were also thinner at 0.6mm to save weight.
1971 : The 240ZG was introduced. It has been considered as being the most curvaceous of body styles in the "Z's" lifetime. This vehicle was powered by the L24 2393cc L-6 OHC engine, which produced 150 horsepower and had a top speed of 205km/h.
1973 : The Fairlady Z went through little change.
1974 : A new heritage 2+2 coupe body was added to the Fairlady Z lineup in January. The 2+2 "Z" was 10mm taller height and about 300mm wider to allow for the rear seats
1975 : NAPS was added to suit new exhaust emission regulations. It produced even more power at 130 horsepower.


1978 : The second generation of Fairlady Z known as the S130 retained the body style of the first generation "Z".
The 280Z-T had the L28E SOHC engine with 145 horsepower and 23.0kg/m of torque. The L20E SOHC makes 130 horsepower and 17.0kg/m of torque.
1980 : The T-bar roof model was introduced.
1981 : The S130 Fairlady Z got a facelift which included a new front bumper, new wheels, and taillamps. It also gained a hood scoop.
1982 : A 2000 turbo was added to the S13 lineup. The 2000 turbo got the L20ET SOHC turbo with ECCS engine that makes 145 horsepower. The suspension was also upgraded at the same time.


1983 : Introduction of the Z31. The 300ZX had the VG30ET V6 SOHC engine producing 230 horsepower and 34.0kg-m of torque.
ZG engine : VG20ET V6 SOHC produced 170PS, and 22.0kg-m of torque.
1984 : A T-bar roof model was introduced
1985 : The 200ZR was installed with the L6 RB20DET DOHC and a ceramic turbo. It produced 180 horsepower and was offered with five speed manual transmission.
1986 : All Z cars excluding the 200ZR received a face lift including new front and rear bumpers, new headlights(halogen 60/55W), and wider fenders. The VG20ET engine had been dropped out of the Fairlady Z lineup.
200ZR-2 used the RB20DET turbocharged L6 DOHC with intercooler producing 180 horsepower and 23.0kg/mm of torque.
300ZR utilized the VG30DE V6 DOHC engine producing 190 horsepower and 25.0kg/m of torque.
300ZX had the VG30ET turbocharged V6 OHC engine producing 195 horsepower and 31.0kg/m of torque.


1989 : The Z32 Fairlady Z was introduced with two body styles, a two seats coupe and a 2+2 coupe with small back seats. It was also available with a normal roof model and a T-bar roof model.
The Z32 also had a four wheel steering system, aluminum brake calipers, ventilated disc brakes, and a 4 wheel multi-link suspension. The 300ZX twinturbo came standard with the Super HICAS (High Capacity Actively Controlled Steering) four wheel steering.
The engine was the VG30DETT 2960cc V6 DOHC twin turbo with twin Intercoolers that produced 280 horsepower and 39.6km/m of torque. The VG30DE V6 DOHC engine that produced 230 horsepower and 27.8km/m of torque.
1992 : The Fairlady Z convertible was introduced. It's engine was a VG30DE V6 DOHC with 230 horsepower. It was also equipped with leather seats, SRS airbag, viscous LSD, and ABS. A drivers airbag became available later that year.
1994 : The Version S was added to the "Z" lineup. It included a rear spoiler and sports bucket seats.
1997 : A new model was introduced with had much more amenities. The new model was named the Version R and it featured Recaro seats, a leather wrapped steering wheel, a carbon type center cluster, and ABS.
1998 : The Z32 changed for more stability. It featured Xenon headlamps, ABS, new rear spoiler, gold face meters.  
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2004, 12:11:00 AM »

nemt nemt... when will you learn not to contradict Rylinkus who obvously know more than you.  However i am pretty sure that there is other turbo skylines than the GTR... there is some 2.5L turbo that you can somewhat easlily swap in to a 240sx.
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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2004, 12:27:00 AM »

Um. . .my understanding is that is a 4 banger engine and not the inline TT skyline engine.  The cost doesn't make it worth it as you could get a TT 300ZX in great shape for less than the price of a 240sx with a 4 banger engine and turbo upgrade.  I realize there are plenty of other options for the 240SX but there are definitely better options for the money.  While I dream of owning a Skyline *sigh* , realistically I have my sites set on a TT 300ZX as it seems to offer just about everything I want for the lowest price.
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2004, 12:29:00 AM »

QUOTE (Altima NEO @ Sep 13 2004, 10:45 PM)
http://www.threedy.c...&threadid=21514

its a 3d render of a Skyline, looks bad ass, if not riced out.

True but nothing original about it.  That design is a dime a dozen among the R34 Skyline community after the release of 2 fast 2 furious.  Plenty of other unique R34 Skylines on cardomain.com
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2004, 09:13:00 PM »

QUOTE (fishlord @ Sep 14 2004, 08:14 AM)
nemt nemt... when will you learn not to contradict Rylinkus who obvously know more than you.  However i am pretty sure that there is other turbo skylines than the GTR... there is some 2.5L turbo that you can somewhat easlily swap in to a 240sx.

I do know my fair share, but please realize plenty of people know MUCH more. On Probetalk my hat goes off to members like BigProbe (Darin P.) for having one of the first turboed 2nd gen Probes. My first PT mem is a video of a PGT ALMOST beating an M3 in a 1/4. I didn't get what was so important about a Probe losing. I do now. And Darin's car which was turboed in 97 is STILL running pushing ~300WHP. The model for 2nd gen turboed PGTs. Others include Jeff Jeske and Nolanspawn who make parts for my car. If they say it's so, it simply is.

And Mike. A longtime member and mod of MX6.com. Sadly he got sick of the BS that went on online forums and left. (He was 34 and didnt like dealing with 15 YOs and their shit) He had SO many tutorials about my car on his webpage. And when he left they all were taken down. Sadly a world of knowledge was lost that day.He now is on a Stang board and drives a Stang GT. I wish him the absolute best.

I'm sure on every board there are knowledge bases. I'm very happy to be able to mod this forum and hope I know enough to debate intelligently. But I'm a mere shadow compared to many I've met and know. And I tip my hat to them. And hope someday someone looks at me in that light. Always remember there are TRULY brilliant people out there that can make almost anything work. Mike made a Mustang VAF work inplace of his PGT VAF. 2 hp gain. But SO cool and SO amazing how he did it. The coolest mod I've EVER seen. If the webpage were up I'd link to it.  sad.gif

As a last thought for the eve Id like to thank everyone participating in this forum. When I first posted here maybe 1 thread per day was responded to. Now we get a lot more posts a day that are much more intelligent then the first few I responded to in here. It's really amaxing how much a section like this has grown on a forum that has NOTHING to do with cars. It's the only online forum I participate in any more and Id be completely amiss without a car debate or 2. So thanks guys and keep it up.  beerchug.gif
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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2004, 12:22:00 AM »

QUOTE (jesterrace777 @ Sep 14 2004, 08:30 AM)
Um. . .my understanding is that is a 4 banger engine and not the inline TT skyline engine.  The cost doesn't make it worth it as you could get a TT 300ZX in great shape for less than the price of a 240sx with a 4 banger engine and turbo upgrade.  I realize there are plenty of other options for the 240SX but there are definitely better options for the money.  While I dream of owning a Skyline *sigh* , realistically I have my sites set on a TT 300ZX as it seems to offer just about everything I want for the lowest price.

if this was about the 2.5 turbo i was talking about that is a 6 clylinder.
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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2004, 08:49:00 PM »

Yeah it was.  Anyways, I still say that there are better options for the $ when you factor in costs.
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