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nemt

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« on: July 16, 2004, 05:13:00 AM »
We like our cars big, and our money not going to some asshole we don't know who crashed his big car.

EDIT: So take that, you hatchback/moped driving socialist european.
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2004, 06:06:00 AM »
coz their idiots on the road.
the bigger the car the less chance of getting damaged lol  wink.gif

nice pic btw lol
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2004, 10:24:00 AM »
i was once told that men buy large cars to help them comprimise with the size of their small, um...., dick size
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Hercules Q Einstein

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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2004, 11:55:00 AM »
Why does everyone else have to nitpick at america and make up dumb stereotypes that arent even true??

Maybe because you want to be like us?
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2004, 09:55:00 PM »
Interesting point Herc. wink.gif  Anyways, I have to agree though that the obsession with SUVs here in the US is fucking rediculous.  I don't give a shit if you drive an SUV and you use it fairly regularly to go off-road, use jet-skis, ect.  but when I see the lady who just got out of the beauty parlor driving one while talking on her cell phone, I wanna beat the living piss out of her.  I guess what I am trying to say is that SUVs shouldn't be driven for fad/status purposes.  Like a truck they are designed for utilitarian purposes.  Hence U standing for Utility.  People who just drive SUVs around town for cargo, passenger space would be better off getting a Subaru Outback/Forrester or a Mini-Van.  They would get at least 5MPG better gas milage with one of those.
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Rylinkus

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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2004, 10:26:00 PM »
There's no stereo typing going on. The US has some of the largest vehichles on the road. Excursions and H2s would NEVER make it big in other countrys. Some of it may be due to the US's wealth and ability to afford more expensive vehichles. Gas prices may help. I don't know. I drive a Chevy Sprint which is one of the smallest cars on the road. What's that say about my penis size?  laugh.gif

I can see buying a big SUV if you need the space due to a large family plus dog, or camping, or biking or something. And if you need to go offroad I get it. Beyond that I see no point to SUVs. I'd never spend 50K plus on a H2 when I could buy something I'd have so much more fun with for that money. Can anyone cay Z06 plus mods....???
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2004, 01:49:00 PM »
Probably because we have all this ROOM to spread out, stretch our legs...

Can hardly move around in your car in some parts of the world, thanks to all the TINY CAR CONGESTION.  

Seriously though...we've always done things big here.  I think Denis Leary does a bit on this, doesn't he?

Besides, why do you care?  Keep sucking down those $4-a-gallon leaded gas fumes...and I'll keep hummin along with my big-block Ford.  Did YOUR country even manufacture a big block somewhere, sometime?  Didn't think so. (Keep out of this Oz-landers, you're cool right where you are)

And what is "maccas"?  Is this some sort of foreign dont-move-your-jaw-when-you-speak bullshit?  Please elaborate, you know we Americans aren't that bright.
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Rylinkus

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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2004, 06:08:00 PM »
QUOTE (PeteHam @ Jul 20 2004, 09:52 PM)
Probably because we have all this ROOM to spread out, stretch our legs...

Can hardly move around in your car in some parts of the world, thanks to all the TINY CAR CONGESTION.  

Seriously though...we've always done things big here.  I think Denis Leary does a bit on this, doesn't he?

Besides, why do you care?  Keep sucking down those $4-a-gallon leaded gas fumes...and I'll keep hummin along with my big-block Ford.  Did YOUR country even manufacture a big block somewhere, sometime?  Didn't think so. (Keep out of this Oz-landers, you're cool right where you are)

And what is "maccas"?  Is this some sort of foreign dont-move-your-jaw-when-you-speak bullshit?  Please elaborate, you know we Americans aren't that bright.

You know, it's comments like this that give others the impression that Americans are ignorant. Why not promote smaller cars. Help the environment. (We do only have one   wink.gif  )
Only one warning, this IS NOT going to become an anti American or anti European thread. You can dump that shit elsewhere. Keep it on track and vaguely intelligent or it'll be closed.

Frankly I'm very interested in some of the differences in cars in different parts of the world. There's plenty of cars we don't get I'd love. Skylines and Pumas being the 2 that jump to mind. I know Skylines had to do with emissions and crash testing. I wonder about Pumas.

And it's interesting to see some of the laws that cars must adhere to in other countries. Kenji was talking to me about his 86 via PMS. And many mods were not kosher. Hood pins, rims being too big, others I can't remember. Pretty stupid stuff if you ask me.
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PeteHam

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2004, 07:44:00 AM »
QUOTE (Asmodeus @ Jul 21 2004, 03:01 AM)
The first part of the answer you are looking for is simple: BECAUSE WE CAN! . My friend had a 6 cylinder Mustang....and it could eat almost every German car we saw on the road for lunch (and Euro cars didn't have emissions....screw the environment...LOL!). The worst part is gas is so expensive in Europe that they do not bother to put decent bumpers on the cars (weighs to much....and weight means less gas mileage) so they have 300 car pileups because everyone is driving a lunchbox (and cannot stop or move out of the way). I always thought it was very odd that (in Germany) they did not allow a vehicle with ANY rust on it drive on the road (it failed inspection) but allowed cars to be sold without any REAL safety rating. While I was stationed in Germany (Mannheim) I was unlucky enough to drive in a snowstorm (basically about 30-50 snowflakes). While we were driving home we saw cars off the road and upside down everywhere. The odd part (and I am NOT making this up) is that Germany did not require safety glass....so people (and parts of people) were scattered everywhere, with glass EVERYWHERE.

My point.....when Europe has it's head out of it's arse about taxation (funny this is why America is here after all!) of gas.....let me know. Seems extremely odd that gas is twice as expensive there when the shipping distance is so much less. I am sure your governments are doing productive things with all the money that all of you drivers are throwing away!

Also....in Europe, the roads are so narrow that they invented breakaway mirrors (the ones that can "bend" forward so that people can squeeze there cars down those little alleys. If an SUV was brought over there it would be riding on both sides of the street. So there is a little more reason for having them here.....we have room for them!

Ironically, I hate SUVs.....but I hate pink, purple, and green cars too! The reason they make so many different types of vehicles is because so many different types of people drive them. Drive what you like, laugh at what you do not like.....but don't harp about it on a thread in some silly attempt to make Americans look like idiots! We can do that on our own! And we are pretty damn good at doing it! Thank you very much!

Stupid picture.....you should have shown pictures of all the hairy armpitted wenches on your nude beaches! First time I went to the beach there I almost lost my lunch. Funny.....I also remember seeing a handfull of large women in Europe (Even saw large women with hairy armpits and legs!).....not much better in my humble opinion! Any country that sells room temperature beer and makes you pay for water (because the water has human feces in it from farmers....YES I SAID HUMAN FECES) needs to think twice about tossing stones at anyone else. Lastly, and I will FINALLY stop, European water (poop and all) has no flouride in it.....so that skinny tart wearing a thong turns and smiles at you all three of her green teeth invite you to stay and chat for a while. Seriously though.....turn your anger to something you need to have fixed in your own country!

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Yet my post is "the ignorant, not vaguely intelligent one".  I love it.  Maybe if I had 700 of them, I'd come off smarter?
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Rylinkus

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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2004, 10:00:00 PM »
QUOTE (PeteHam @ Jul 21 2004, 03:47 PM)
Yet my post is "the ignorant, not vaguely intelligent one".  I love it.  Maybe if I had 700 of them, I'd come off smarter?

If you have a personal problem with someone you can take it to private messages. There have been some facts put forth in this thread.
-Gas Prices
-Higher Taxation in Europe
-Emissions and Safety law differences
-Street Sizes

But to make a statement like.....
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Besides, why do you care? Keep sucking down those $4-a-gallon leaded gas fumes...and I'll keep hummin along with my big-block Ford.


You think gas prices will never hit 4 dollars a gallon here. Keep buying gas hogs that you don't need. I'm all for an SUV or truck if you need an SUV or truck, but we all know the majority of them never go off road or utilize all the space. If you're just a one kid family, do you need 2 SUV, or would a Civic Sedan cut it as well?

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Did YOUR country even manufacture a big block somewhere, sometime? Didn't think so. (Keep out of this Oz-landers, you're cool right where you are)


Some of the finest autmotive machines in the world are made in Europe..... blink.gif
And making fun of "Oz-landers" is cool dry.gif

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And what is "maccas"? Is this some sort of foreign dont-move-your-jaw-when-you-speak bullshit?


And you can simply tell me how this is anything but ignorant.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2004, 11:33:00 PM »
I used to drive a 4 cyl Fiero, now I drive a Caprice... figure the penis analogy out for that one!

I like my big car cause I can put my subs, amp, full size spare, 3 snowboards and changes of clothes in the trunk, while me and 2 of my buddies drive out to colorado.  (one asleep in the back, two up front killin time)

I'd also like to have a WRX... and a Hayabusa(i.e. smaller vehicles), but quite frankly, I don't have that kinda cash just yet...
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2004, 12:01:00 AM »
QUOTE (PeteHam @ Jul 22 2004, 01:59 AM)
Sorry, on 2 points :

1. Wasn't making fun of Oz at all.  Their cars kick ass (hearty thanks to Holden).  That's why I said they were cool right where they were (as in 'where they stand').

2. Knew I was wrong as soon as I posted this, and read the response. I'll keep my opinions to myself.  

Didn't mean to piss in your Cheerios.

Haha you said cheerio.
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2004, 04:29:00 AM »
QUOTE (Rylinkus @ Jul 21 2004, 02:11 AM)
I know Skylines had to do with emissions and crash testing. I wonder about Pumas.

They don't make puma's anymore.(sadly)

You guys really think a big block SUV is safer or faster?
No way dude, we've got crash tests as well and lately loads of cars get the maximum score of 5stars for passenger security.

A Honda S2000 has a 2litre 4cylinder block without Turbo, and it creates 240HP and to stay in Europe, The Lotus Elise 111R has a 1.8litre engine with 192HP, also without turbo (using a Toyota engine tho...)

I'd like to see American cars do that.

Face it, because gas and taxes are so expensive in Europe and Japan, the manufacturers are forced to get lots of horsepower out of a small engine, and still make sure it doesn't need that much gas, nothing is better if you want engines to be modern, hi-tech and advanced.
American engines are (in general) way less advanced because of the faster car - bigger enginge philosophy.

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Rylinkus

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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2004, 12:44:00 PM »
QUOTE (PeteHam @ Jul 22 2004, 07:59 AM)
Sorry, on 2 points :

1. Wasn't making fun of Oz at all.  Their cars kick ass (hearty thanks to Holden).  That's why I said they were cool right where they were (as in 'where they stand').

Sorry to have misunderstood your statement there. Admittedly the Aussies have some amazing cars the US will never see. Holden is a superb example.

Another thing I'd like to touch on......
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A Honda S2000 has a 2litre 4cylinder block without Turbo, and it creates 240HP and to stay in Europe, The Lotus Elise 111R has a 1.8litre engine with 192HP, also without turbo (using a Toyota engine tho...)

I'd like to see American cars do that.

Face it, because gas and taxes are so expensive in Europe and Japan, the manufacturers are forced to get lots of horsepower out of a small engine, and still make sure it doesn't need that much gas, nothing is better if you want engines to be modern, hi-tech and advanced.
American engines are (in general) way less advanced because of the faster car - bigger enginge philosophy.


I know there are HP and displacement restrictions in some places. Obviously an S2000 is not designed based ona  HP number and these are very cool, sporty example, while many cars in Europe are much less cool.

One point is that the S2000 engine is not as impressive as everyone thinks. The HP/ displacement numbers are amazing, but who cares about that really? The less advanced, bigger, Camaro LT1 produces more HP, powers a faster car, and gets similar gas mileage. So while the engineering to make a 2.0 push 240hp is great, is it any better then a V8 that makes the same or better numbers?

I think there is a definate excess thing going on in American where everyone needs a "bigger and better" vehichle. But most people could opt for a slightly smaller model and never see any difference in the results.

Also a few posts back someone mentioned a V6 Stang on the Autobahn. I met a guy with a highly modded 5.0 Stang GT (99 I think) at Epping. The whole thing that started him modding was being on the Autobahn with it while he was stationed in. He had his bone stock 5.0 GT and got left for dead by an Escort Cosworth. "Fully loaded with French men", he said. It was then that he realized his car was not fast enough and began modding it.
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2004, 12:55:00 PM »
QUOTE (Rylinkus @ Jul 22 2004, 08:47 PM)
So while the engineering to make a 2.0 push 240hp is great, is it any better then a V8 that makes the same or better numbers?

Not really, but if the Honda-people can get 240HP out of a 2litre block, imagine what they could do with a big 5litre V8 or anything like that...

Besides, if anybody should care, all compact Holden's are exact copies of European compact cars, but there bigger ones are nice, though I don't understand why 1 brand needs 3 different cars that look just as big and fast and expensive blink.gif
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