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[Psilocybe]

QUOTE (Psykomantis00 @ Jul 15 2004, 02:29 PM)

I own a prelude now, but my talon was a very good car. Im buying another soon for one grand just for a project, its turbo awd and shit. Very good cars.

man i love ludes, esp mine since it's the only one i get to drive, just wish i had the all wheel steering option


jesterrace i thought you wanted cheap, damn $12k isn't cheap to me, i'm sure you could find something cheaper than that with just as much power and just as good of handling, hell you could probably find something for half of that with just a little less power and slightly worse handling and build up from there, course you sound like you want something that is already completely done for you and not wanna put any time/money into modding yourself, which goes back to my first point i made, if you ask the question you did, you probably wont ever end up swaping the motor

[jesterrace777]

Well of course I wouldn't personally be swapping out the motor.  I would have someone do that for me.  I don't have the tools to do something like that (nor the knowledge).  Anyways, every car that I have seen that has shitloads of HP (ie 400+ HP) and good handling seems to cost well over $15K.  I did hear about a nifty Porche 914 mod though.  Apparently you can get a 914 and put in a porche racing tranny and then put in a Stingray engine.  Then you get a small lightweight car that handles well with shitloads of power.  It's supposed to be a pretty cheap conversion.

[Psilocybe]

i can tell you with a fair ammount of certainty that an engine that is gonna be well over 350-400 cid will not be good for a car as small and light as a porche.  you will be very top heavy and this wont be good for handling

[jesterrace777]

[nemt]

I've found Nissan is the best "Japanese" car to do engine swaps on, despite their lame french owners.

[Psilocybe]

well how important really is the 4wd?  cause since you reffered to the things that a truck was made for, you did leave out the fact that 4wd is for trucks.  really 4wd will only help you be quicker off the line against a car of the same type running the same amount of horse power.  ;you get a faster car with a lower first gear that is lighter and it's gonna be faster off the line than the opposite, 4wd or not

[jesterrace777]

I just want a car that is relatively affordable, quick off the line and handles well.  How practical would it be for me to get a foxbody mustang and try to work on the suspension and handling system?

[jesterrace777]

Okay, Rylinkus seems to be on holiday and so far he is the only one who has given me a really helpful answer here.  Anyways I was talking with a guy at work tonight and I got two more cars to throw into the mix (nemt will like these).  One is a '95 or newer 240SX with a Silvya engine or the '90-'96 TT 300ZX.  I like both of them and they seem to handle quite well and have good power.  Both can be had for under 10K before mods.  While the mustang would definitely be the best choice for raw power/speed, I just don't like the fact that American cars can't handle worth a shit.  I think I would use cornering capabilities far more than I would the 1/4 mile capabilities.  I wouldn't necessarily be using this car as a daily driver but I definitely would want to be comfortable with driving it around town and in all sorts of wheather.

[Rylinkus]

A 5.0 Stang can be had for 2 K around here. That's a 13 second car stock. Depending on what you want theres plenty of mods at your disposal.

There's tons of cars on the market. Try test driving some to get a feel for what you like. I know Ive got a new job starting in a week, (SCORE!!!) and am now thinking about another more sporty car. I'm really torn and have no idea what I want. I know it can't be an auto and must be RWD. I may be willing to wave the ATX thing for a lightening. I know I just need to test drive a bunch of cars to see what I really like the feel of.

Things that are on MY list....... (And the price range is all over the place)
Ford SVT Lightening
Mazda Miata
Mustang and Camaro ( a bit common though.)
Older Supra
Older RX7
An older Corolla GTS might be cool
Nissan 240 SX ( A bit over rated IMO but a test drive may fix that.)
There's other things that have popped into my head, but I can't think of em at the moment. Over the next 6 months I'll be doing some research on prices and getting some idea of what I want via test drives.

[Rylinkus]

QUOTE (jesterrace777 @ Jul 17 2004, 07:02 AM)

Okay, Rylinkus seems to be on holiday and so far he is the only one who has given me a really helpful answer here.  Anyways I was talking with a guy at work tonight and I got two more cars to throw into the mix (nemt will like these).  One is a '95 or newer 240SX with a Silvya engine or the '90-'96 TT 300ZX.  I like both of them and they seem to handle quite well and have good power.  Both can be had for under 10K before mods.  While the mustang would definitely be the best choice for raw power/speed, I just don't like the fact that American cars can't handle worth a shit.  I think I would use cornering capabilities far more than I would the 1/4 mile capabilities.  I wouldn't necessarily be using this car as a daily driver but I definitely would want to be comfortable with driving it around town and in all sorts of wheather.

Vacation..... LOL.

I'll give my Nissan Opinions right now.
The 240SX is a great drifting machine. But the engine swap is so friggin over rated. Having seen 2 of them done the money involved just grows exponentially as there always seems to be something else needed. And tuning the SR is no east task either. In the end the SR20DET is far more costly then you'd expect. It's a hell of an engine but certainly there are cheaper options for similar power. Hell my Probe's KLZE with a few bolt ons produces similar power for under a grand. My buds got over 5K in his and it's FINALLY running well and fast. 13.6 second 1.4 fast. The stock KA24DE CAN be turboed to produce some decent numbers. But part of me has issues justifying trying to upgrade an engine designed for an SUV. The last option is the RB25DET. Skyline engine. Expect to spend at least 5K to just get the engine.  Very tunable, but I'd rather just find a FD for that price and have something thats more stylish.

And the Fairlady Z........
What can you possibly say. The car's got a bum rap. I throw in in the mix with the best Supras and RX7s. I love the looks and the car. Steer clear of the 2+2 seater as the back seats are impossible to fit into anyway and that body style is considerably more expensive. With Jim Wolfe upgrade kits (ECU, CAI, Exhaust), it'lll put 396 to the rear wheels. (Did on my friends.) That's enough to break the tires free at 90......  
But they CAN be expensive. I don't imagine you could fine one under 10K that hasn't been severely beaten. Maybe the non turbo one would be decent. The handling is still very good, though it lacks the adjustable suspension. And a few horses. But still a pretty quick car. Watch insurance on the TT as well. I can tell you insuring a 3000GT VR4 was impossible for me and prevented me from buying one a few years ago. Most insurance companies flay out refused to insure it for any amount of money. And others expected more then ALOT. And my driving record is clean.  

Testdrive....... That's how you'll find out what you like and don't like. I can tell you what cars I love. Not everyone will like em though. It's all personal preference.

[jesterrace777]

Yup, after looking at the TT 300ZX that seems to be the best option.  I won't find one for under 10K but then again I knew that pretty much any car I wanted with the specs that I am looking for was going to run me over 10K.  The difference is that a stock TT 3rd Generation RX-7 is going to cost me $15K and the motor will probably die within 10K miles.  On the other hand I can get a modded out TT 300ZX for about the same price (maybe a little bit more) and the engines last a little longer.  These cars have plenty of mod options and they look great.

[nemt]

An engine swapped S14 240SX could outperform most cars on the road...

[jesterrace777]

[Psilocybe]

plus a 300zx looks damn nice

[jesterrace777]

QUOTE (Psilocybe @ Jul 18 2004, 08:37 AM)

plus a 300zx looks damn nice

Yup, a '95 and newer 240SX doesn't look bad with rims, ect. but the 300ZX just looks more like a sports car.   Seriously though, I was searching around and a nicely kept 240SX with the engine swap and mods done, pushes a little over 300HP,  A nicely kept 300ZX for about the same price (within $1,000) was pushing a little over 400HP.  I realize that the 240 would be a bit lighter but with that much difference in HP the 300ZX would still be the better choice for the money.