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[fahrenheit]

tried 3 PSU's, so its not them the fault is definitely on the mobo.

[ferrari_rulz_02]

QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Sep 24 2005, 11:30 AM)

tried 3 PSU's, so its not them the fault is definitely on the mobo.

well that is a bitch then. i still doubt its a bios or software issue.

this would be much easier if we could get our hands on the circuit diagram for the mobo.

[fahrenheit]

On further testing, I'm getting lockups in games. Looks like another unexplainable FRAO console to add to the list.

[ferrari_rulz_02]

QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Sep 27 2005, 11:00 AM)

On further testing, I'm getting lockups in games. Looks like another unexplainable FRAO console to add to the list.

this is really shitting me, even though my xbox isnt doing it.

so whats the facts we have established?
its not the hdd
not the dvd
not a psu fault.
not a software (bios/dashboard) issue

so it has to be a hardware failure on the motherboard.

damm i wish we had the schematics for the mobo, so we could see what is causing it.

[Gokussj5okazu]

Hey guys, I've been watching this for a while since I've been shit on by 2 FRAOs in the past and it looks like I've got another one of these to add.  

This one has an X3 installed, worked like a charm for the past 6 months or so. SO I'm doing a little maintainance, cleaning up wires, and decided to hardwire my wireless controller reciever/transmitter. I got to work and everything was fine, soldering WAY away from my X-Box. Hook it all back up, coat the reciever/transmitter PCB with a crapload of electric tape, and close her all up. Keep in mind I didn't touch a damn thing on the mobo, NOTHING. I hit the button and I get reboot twice. I'm pretty pissed now so I open her back up, check all my wires, and it still does it. So just out of curiousness, I held my power button in, disableing the chip and it goes strait to MS Dash. Today I just redid the entire LPC pinheader, and the D0 wire. Prayed a little, still does it! If I unhook my X3, works perfect. I know this isn't directly related since you are all working on unmodded mobos, but does anyone have a suggestion for this?

[ferrari_rulz_02]

QUOTE(Gokussj5okazu @ Sep 28 2005, 10:21 AM)

If I unhook my X3, works perfect.

well im not too sure about yuor logic, but mine is telling me that ur chip has had it. i dont supose you have another chip hanging around you could whack in it do you?

[Gokussj5okazu]

Nope, sure don't. I didn't even touch the chip though, and both the LEDs on it come on, its still sending signal to my pro switch in front. I guese it could be kaput, it just doesn't sound right to me.

[ferrari_rulz_02]

QUOTE(Gokussj5okazu @ Sep 28 2005, 01:53 PM)

Nope, sure don't. I didn't even touch the chip though, and both the LEDs on it come on, its still sending signal to my pro switch in front. I guese it could be kaput, it just doesn't sound right to me.

hmmmm
well this is an odd one.

if it doesnt boot the chip, but boots the bios off teh mobo, then it has to be the chip.

can you boot the box up into the OS modchip?

[Gokussj5okazu]

Ok, unfortunately I discovered something else. I turned it on, X3 off, and the clock setter came up. I set the time, shut my X-Box off, and turned it back on. The time thing was there again, I tried this several times and it will not keep time. So I'm betting this has absolutely nothing to do with my chip. Also every once and a while if I turn it on by holding in the power button, it will shut back off as soon as it loads the MS Dash.

Oh yeah, how do I boot into the OS?

[ferrari_rulz_02]

QUOTE(Gokussj5okazu @ Sep 28 2005, 03:16 PM)

Ok, unfortunately I discovered something else. I turned it on, X3 off, and the clock setter came up. I set the time, shut my X-Box off, and turned it back on. The time thing was there again, I tried this several times and it will not keep time.

well this may big a very big hint.

i know that the xbox uses a cap to keep power to the mobo to keep the clock when there is no power connected.

i dont know what cap it is, but id bet its fucked. even though your not unplugging the xbox from power, if teh cap is fucked, that coudl be a major part of the problem.

have a look around on here to see if you can find out which cap it is. maybe pm networkboy, he'd be able to tell you.

im not 100% sure that this is the problem, but could be a major part of it

[omg0t]

come on guys lets try to figure this out, i've recently had this problem as well and if we don't get it figured out by monday im gonna try freezing my box
btw if i boot my box without a chip it does this with the frao, but if i boot with my smartxx 2 it frag's, any ideas?
good luck

[ferrari_rulz_02]

QUOTE(omg0t @ Oct 1 2005, 02:02 AM)

btw if i boot my box without a chip it does this with the frao, but if i boot with my smartxx 2 it frag's, any ideas?

well then it has to be something to do with the chip or the lpc port

[fahrenheit]

Well today my Xbox works flawlessly with the chip on or off. No lockups either.
I hate intermittent faults.

[ferrari_rulz_02]

QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Oct 1 2005, 02:11 PM)

Well today my Xbox works flawlessly with the chip on or off. No lockups either.
I hate intermittent faults.

yeah they are pains for sure.

try running it hot, then reboot it a few times.

if its intermittient, it would be nice to know if it tends to want to work more if its hot or cold.

[omg0t]

QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Oct 1 2005, 02:36 AM)

well then it has to be something to do with the chip or the lpc port

so ur sayin that the lpc makes it frao with the chip not installed?
and then the lpc is making my box frag with the chip on?
y would it frao without the chip and then frag with the chip

also could u check my lpc for damage, i cant see damage on it
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=9/26821051939.jpg&s=x1
thanks