Topic: Tries To Boot 3 Times Then Flashes Red And Orange (Read 526 times)

AfterTheInsanity · « **Reply #45 on:** September 08, 2005, 05:08:00 AM »

I just had this problem with mine, but I actually got it working. Give this a shot for yours:
Do this
Then run a wire from the back D0 to the front D0
And if you have emptied out your LPC holes, fill them.

Thats exactly what I did step by step and now mine boots up fine.

ferrari_rulz_02 · « **Reply #46 on:** September 09, 2005, 02:52:00 AM »

QUOTE(AfterTheInsanity @ Sep 8 2005, 10:19 PM)

Thats exactly what I did step by step and now mine boots up fine.

well ill have to remember this thread then

PimpleX · « **Reply #47 on:** September 09, 2005, 03:48:00 AM »

QUOTE(AfterTheInsanity @ Sep 8 2005, 01:19 PM)

I just had this problem with mine, but I actually got it working. Give this a shot for yours:
Do this
Then run a wire from the back D0 to the front D0
And if you have emptied out your LPC holes, fill them.

Thats exactly what I did step by step and now mine boots up fine.

To be blunt there is absolutlely no reason for that to work at all sorry. And doing them one after the other in some voodoo fix is even more bizarre.

The red-orange "fix" is only IF the small trace you are bypassing is broken. (test with multimeter)

The D0 to D0 will do exactly NOTHING unless the D0 to D0 link trace is broken. (test with multimeter)

Filling the LPC holes may fix a bad LPC point, (again test with multimeter to see if it actually is a problem), plus won't help on v1.0 which seem to make up a fair proportion of FRAO boards as they already have the LPC holes filled anyway.

I'm telling you the two most likely candidates for this FRAO problem are looking increasingly likely to be an IC that is fritzed, or else the RAM has gone bad.

Cheers,

PimpleX

AfterTheInsanity · « **Reply #48 on:** September 09, 2005, 06:12:00 AM »

Hey, Im just saying that this is what I did and now it boots up, so maybe it will work for someone else.

ferrari_rulz_02 · « **Reply #49 on:** September 09, 2005, 07:00:00 AM »

QUOTE(AfterTheInsanity @ Sep 9 2005, 10:47 PM)

Hey, Im just saying that this is what I did and now it boots up, so maybe it will work for someone else.

well what your problem was may be different to what others have.

AfterTheInsanity · « **Reply #50 on:** September 09, 2005, 03:16:00 PM »

Maybe it is. But maybe it isnt. Its better to try something and it end up working then to not try it at all, and have a broken motherboard, is it not?

ferrari_rulz_02 · « **Reply #51 on:** September 09, 2005, 05:16:00 PM »

QUOTE(AfterTheInsanity @ Sep 10 2005, 07:51 AM)

Maybe it is. But maybe it isnt. Its better to try something and it end up working then to not try it at all, and have a broken motherboard, is it not?

yes, that is very true. were just saying that the reason why yours went to the shits doesnt look like the reason why some other peoples did.

fr_dr · « **Reply #52 on:** September 23, 2005, 05:44:00 AM »

I have the exact same problem on a v1.0 xbox. At first when i got it, it was FRAGing, so i tried to install a switch on a18/a19/vcc/grnd to be able to boot each part of the TSOP separetly to see if it was a bios problem. After this little tweak, the xbox was now FRAO no matter what part of the TSOP i boot from. So i removed the switch, and i was really surprised, cause now it FRAO instead of FRAG. I'm shure there was no solder splash or broken trace during the installation/desinstallation of the switch. So does anyone have been ever succeful fixing a FRAO xbox, and if so, for god sake, tell us how you did it. I've been searching for so long now to fix my v1.0 xbox, and all i could find was info about broken trace or solder splash, but i'm almost 99,9999% shure that it's not my problem, probably like most of you that are having the same problem.

ferrari_rulz_02 · « **Reply #53 on:** September 23, 2005, 07:10:00 AM »

well sorry to dissapoint you man, but you must have fucked something else up (or it got worse my itself), and that is what is causing the different errors.

fahrenheit · « **Reply #54 on:** September 23, 2005, 07:26:00 AM »

Well disppearingly, my Japanese Skeleton Black (AKA Smoke) v1.0 just FRAO'd the other day, it was out of the blue and the first time it had been turned on that day. It is a collectable Xbox, so it was unmodded, but reading up on the issue I didn't really see any choice.

I unmodded one of my other consoles and chipped it with an Akira 2 cheapmod. Powering on normally causes FRAO, but hitting eject boots both BIOS's on the modchips banks. I put evox on the drive and it seems to operate fine from cold booting, though from what PimpleX has said, I'll have to run it for longer.

Interestingly I had one successful cold boot today a while after the chip had been installed (the chip was off and the MS dash loaded without FRAO). So I'm wondering if this is an intermittant hardware fault? That was one boot out of at least thirty FRAO's in the last two days.

At this point I would like to completely re-flash my TSOP with a retail v1.0 BIOS, but am a TSOP noob, so need to research more about it. The goal is to get this rare console back into an unmodded state. But at least its not a total write-off.

ferrari_rulz_02 · « **Reply #55 on:** September 23, 2005, 08:11:00 AM »

QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Sep 24 2005, 12:01 AM)

So I'm wondering if this is an intermittant hardware fault?

well id say it is. sounds like a capacitor that works normally only when at a certain temperature.

have a look on the mobo, see if any of the caps are leaking or are buldged

fahrenheit · « **Reply #56 on:** September 23, 2005, 05:34:00 PM »

Everything looks fine, but the intermittant thing seems to be true as I had another couple of cold boots that worked without FRAO, and managed to re-flash the TSOP with retail BIOS, but it made no difference.

Looks like I'm in the same boat as everyone else.

ferrari_rulz_02 · « **Reply #57 on:** September 23, 2005, 06:18:00 PM »

QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Sep 24 2005, 10:09 AM)

Looks like I'm in the same boat as everyone else.

shit man this sux. just try poking around a bit. im pretty sure it has to be a hardware fault

fahrenheit · « **Reply #58 on:** September 23, 2005, 06:26:00 PM »

Well part of me wants to keep going, but I have a working modded Xbox here, so I don't want to ruin that. One thing I forgot to mention was that after the first successful cold boot I had today, I set the clock. Then it FRAO'd a few more times and then I got another successful boot, but the clock had to be reset again, even though the power had been constant.

ferrari_rulz_02 · « **Reply #59 on:** September 23, 2005, 06:53:00 PM »

QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Sep 24 2005, 11:01 AM)

Then it FRAO'd a few more times and then I got another successful boot, but the clock had to be reset again, even though the power had been constant.

well that is strange. sounds very much like a power issue. it may be getting 'bad' power out of the psu, untill it heats up a bit.

just give the psu a very thorough goign over, and see if you can find anything sus.

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