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[d34th_r3c0n]

this may be in the wrong spot but it was my best guess...

I screwed up a solder install on my X3 chip and got the stuff to fix it so that i could just install a solderless adapter but when trying to desolder the pin headder(desoldering braid) all it does is sit there. i let the iron heat up for about 30min and when i lay the braid on the solder and place the iron on top of it it does nothing. i will hold it there for 1-2 minutes before just stopping.

could it be that the solder has been on too long to be re-heated?

[G0t M4xx 21]

use some flux

Or why try to remove the header of its already there?

The header install is much more stable and secure than the solderless

[RUiN]

Ok you want to remove a pinheader? If so the desoldering braid should work (worked for me) but be aware that the traces on a xbox mobo are very fragle and trying to remove a pin header can mess up everything. If you can post a pic on what you screwed up it might be an easy fix. last try removing the plastic part of the pin header nad sniping the metal postes off flush with the mobo (easiers then removing solder). then heat up the rest of the post that is left in hole and push it threw the back side of the mobo.

I might not be on the same page as you so more info and pics would help alot

[d34th_r3c0n]

sorry in advance for the long-winded explanation or whining or whatever you want to call it.  

i have no way to connect the d0 wire because i demolished the little solder pad thing on the bottom of the motherboard. the reason is that im not the most skilled (solderist maybe)  in the world. i dont have a camera to take pics but only like 3 of the pins actualy soldered right(like in the teamxecuter tut) and the others have huge wads of solder on them that may or may not be connecting traces around the LPC bus.

anyway, i got a conductive pen to fix the d0 trace but am wanting to get the headder off. hell, for all i know i could have destroyed the LPC bus. also when i was soldering on the pin closest to the screw hole it just "evaporated" when i heated it up.

ok... but how exactly would i use the flux? i have some flux paste but have no clue how to use it really .

[RUiN]

oops didnt read whole post

[d34th_r3c0n]

well, while im waiting on more replies im gonna play WoW... im getting the same sick-to-my-stomach feeling i got when i first screwed it up... ohhhhhh that feeling sucks.

[networkBoy]

That conductive ink stuff tends to go everywhere.  Mask off anything you don't want it contacting with tape before you start.

As to removing the LPC header:

1) grasp pin on top side of board with neelde nose pliars.
2) gently pull
3) while pulling GENTLY, re-flow the solder with the iron.  The pin should heat and pull through the plastic as soon as the solder melts.
4) repeat.
5) once all pins are out (the plastic having come up with the last one), apply a thin layer of flux to the LPC header through holes, lay the tip of the clean solder braid over one through hole, apply heat from the soldering iron to the braid.  Once the solder wicks into the braid cut off the saturated part.  repeat for all solder you want removed.

Honestly though, send the board and your chip to me and it will come back in stellar condition, chip ready to go.
-nB

[d34th_r3c0n]

as far as the pen goes that is what i was planning on doing... mask the little area i want it to go off then just dab some on.

also, after looking at it i may just remove a little bit of solder on some of the pins and resolder them. could i just remove the pin that "evaporated" and replace it with one from another pin headder? also, how should i attach the d0 wire? to the conductive stuff maybe ?

QUOTE(PEN PACKAGING)

Soldering (after heat curing only. Use low temperature soldering (less than 350*F) for not more than 5 seconds. Use low emperatrue soldering iron.)

any clue what they mean by "heat curing"?

well anyway... i still need to check the lpc traces again to make sure i didnt murder them.

[Chancer]

30 mins for the iron to heat up 2 minutes on the braid and nothing. No wonder you are in trouble.
Plain and simple your soldering iron is not powerful enough.

[d34th_r3c0n]

no no no... it is a 25W iron... heats up in 5 min i just left it for 30 to make sure it was at its hottest.

[Chancer]

The braid is crap or the iron is not up to the job. I can remove  apinheader with desolderbraid in under a minute. The solder should soak into the braid immediately
How big is your Tip (Without wishing to appear rude )

[d34th_r3c0n]

the tip is about 1-2mm across

someone said use flux.... how would i go about that, just put it on the solder that i have on the board?

is there some way i could fix my d0 point using solder or something? maybe put some electric tape around it and use a little bit of solder instead of the conductive ink? and just attach the d0 wire to that?

[d34th_r3c0n]

BUMPAGE

[Chancer]

The tip is too small. I bet the braid is wider.

[d34th_r3c0n]

ok.. thats probably it... i have another tip that is about the width of the braid... should i use that? would i be able to use some solder to fix my d0 trace, so i can still use the d0 wire for my chip instead of getting a solderless or using the d0 point on top? maybe tin the wire with a little extra solder so it fills in the break(with the other traces masked over with a few layers of electrical tape)