Oh don't just walk away, sure, we shot down the idea, but, it was still a good one, even if it wasn't fully correct. But thats beside the point, Thomsons are the ones you should look into, those don't have a firmware lockout either, but if you could find an optimal value for them, say 200 ohms off the pot, to get them to read CDRs without burning them, that would be nice. And if you get anyones XBox with a Sammy, take a look at those.