Topic: 8163b Full Tutorial With Full Media Support (Read 1744 times)

menelik · « **Reply #360 on:** March 07, 2006, 11:31:00 AM »

every GND point will work.

@fatx

Did you allready try to flash the drive? if not, what error did you get?

-Gadget- · « **Reply #361 on:** March 13, 2006, 02:46:00 PM »

please do.. many peeps are looking to find this info out for fact !

Mick ..

patx · « **Reply #362 on:** March 13, 2006, 09:01:00 PM »

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please do.. many peeps are looking to find this info out for fact !

Mick ..

look at your PM !

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has anyone opened up a LG GDR-8164B drive to see what kinda diferences they have made ?
have read that they take the flash and still kinda operate ...
not sure if this has got any further ?
(as this is the only drive i can find easerly now in the UK)
Mick ...

QUOTE(ziggy13 @ Feb 20 2006, 07:35 AM)

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the 8164b works with the Xbox but there is no flash for the drive to read originals and there is only the eject signal to work with. But there is a plus you can use DVD ram with this drive on the xbox. as with the 4161b burners there is NO support from LG.

from what ive read else were the norm 8050 flash, that ya use on the 8163b, flashs to the 8164b and still kinda works
its just they never mentioned about how much functionality (CD's and what not) do work, and if the main boards were similair.

Mick ..

PS thing i may just order one, are only £15 !!

PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT THAT AS I AM WAITING FOR MY WILLEM PROGRAMMER TO TRY THE 8050L FIRMWARE INTO THE 8164B...

WHERE HAVE YOU READ ABOUT IT

I MAKE THE 8164B WORK LIKE AN ORIGINAL DRIVE (EXECEPT FOR THE FLASH)...I WILL SELL A PCB TO RECUP. THE SIGNALS FROM THE DRIVE TO MAKE IT WORK IN TO THE XBOX.

patx · « **Reply #363 on:** March 16, 2006, 06:49:00 AM »

Yesterday I've received my willem programmer, dumped the FW from a 8163b flashed with 8050l, dumped the FW from the 8164b ( for recovery), and finally fashed it with the 8050l... AND... NO... NO GO... The tray opens as soon as the xbox is powered, closing it, it re-opens right away...I unpluged all the signals wires and the IDE to have power only to the drive and the same thing happens...

For the PCB I was developping, the manufacturer called me yesterday, the final plans are done, he is ready for production but I asked him to put it on ice for a while... The cost for this is pretty high and since the flash doesn't work for now I don't know anymore...

Since I am french, most of my research have been done on GX-MOD on this topic :

http://gueux-forum.n...pic=75299&st=40

On this topic I ask for people interested in the PCB to send an email to let me know that they will probably purchase the PCB if I proceed... this is only to help me take my decision if I proceed or not with it...The PCB will be sold 20 to 25$ (CAN)

If your interested email me to : [email protected]... if I have at least 100 emails I will proceed

Here is a capture of the PDF file I sent to the manufacturer
IPB Image

On an other hand, I have been examining the bins files... some parts are pretty similar if you feel that you can help modding the 8050l.bin to run on a GDR-8164b see these posts :

http://www.xboxhacke...=33&topic=470.0
http://forum.rpc1.or...pic.php?t=37922

Thankx PATx_

-Gadget- · « **Reply #364 on:** March 16, 2006, 03:22:00 PM »

well thats not a good start

ok... although the tray opens, this MAY be a simple as the signal are reversed ? ..
in is out, and out is in ..
so a simple reversing of polarity of motor MAY fix this

just an idea as this had to be done on another drive when we flashed it ? .. cannot remeber what drive this happerned to but ?

this could i spose be checked by seeing if the spindle still spins up, when the wires are just removed from motor, so the tray does not get forced out ? and see if it reads a disc at least ?

as long as the drive thinks that its closes and wants it to stay closed (the tray in micro switches are also the correct way round) then it should at least try and spin up a disc !

Mick ...

PS.. i have not got one, or ever done any thing like this, i just like reading ! .. and do seem to remeber anything interesting i do read ! (so if peeps write stuff wrong then i too am wrong ! lol hence why i said that peeps had flashed and they worked... i read it wrong, they /i ment they work in xbox like a normal drive unflashed)

patx · « **Reply #365 on:** March 16, 2006, 04:02:00 PM »

Nop the MN103 pinout is completely differenf from 8164 & 8163 drives... rerouting is useless.

patx · « **Reply #366 on:** March 17, 2006, 06:39:00 PM »

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Good news, after a long session working with McDennis I can now tell you what is wrong with the Dangerous Brothers RPC1 package and why it doesn't work. Simply, they got the wrong Flash Device ID.

So we fixed that and you can find a working 8164B flasher here http://rapidshare.de...4_LL06.EXE.html

Be aware that this will complete flashing VERY quickly when used against the same version of firmware and it looks like it's too quick to have worked. Whats going is that the flash programming algorithm has been optimised, each sector in the flash is compared with the new binary and only the sectors which dont match are erased and programmed.

So if you flash version LL06 over LL06 nothing happens, lol

Great news now we are gonna be lots of peeps working on that one !!!

here is the 8164flasher with bin 8050l :

http://patxbox360.co...64_8050.dld.EXE

WARNING... USE AT YOUR OWN RISK... NOT TESTED BY ME OR k00m.

iF YOU NEED RECOVERY FILES And FLASHER... here it is :

http://patxbox360.co...R8164B0L06L.dld
http://patxbox360.co...ck/FLASHUP2.rar

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Nop the MN103 pinout is completely differenf from 8164 & 8163 drives... rerouting is useless.

May be not after all...

patx · « **Reply #367 on:** March 19, 2006, 09:12:00 AM »

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here is the 8164flasher with bin 8050l :

http://patxbox360.co...64_8050.dld.EXE

WARNING... USE AT YOUR OWN RISK... NOT TESTED BY ME OR k00m.

iF YOU NEED RECOVERY FILES And FLASHER... here it is :

http://patxbox360.co...R8164B0L06L.dld
http://patxbox360.co...ck/FLASHUP2.rar

TESTED AND NOT WORKING... (working on a fix... more news to come)

Jesper64 · « **Reply #368 on:** March 19, 2006, 09:15:00 AM »

Does anyone know where to buy the male pin connecter for the DVD drive cable? The premodded drives on KonMod.de (from menelik's signature) have the connecter on the back and it looks really neat.

Thanks

Xb0XmAn · « **Reply #369 on:** March 19, 2006, 11:08:00 AM »

Is there a schematic somewhere how I can solder a 8164 to work as a unflashed 8163?

Xb0XmAn · « **Reply #370 on:** March 22, 2006, 02:50:00 AM »

hi patx, i've send u an email

hope you get back at me soon

greetz jay

Poppeseed · « **Reply #371 on:** March 22, 2006, 09:40:00 PM »

Ordered a drive last week via one of the links in this thread, didnt check the model number (I'm stupid) and recieved a LG 8527B. Any chance that it will work?

menelik · « **Reply #372 on:** March 23, 2006, 04:34:00 AM »

guys just stop those questions. ONLY 8163b drives will work and I dont expect other drives including 8164b will ever work like the 8163b.

patx · « **Reply #373 on:** March 24, 2006, 07:05:00 AM »

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Hi,

Yes, i think it would be very possible to mod the firmware of ANY drive to get it working with the 360. I think all you have to make sure of is that the ATAPI's are implemented in the same way AND you'll need to 'port' the authentication code, so best is to use a drive with very similar code, like the 8163/8164 for example. However it will be quite some work to get everything running I guess

Regards,

TS

So let's get to work everyody !!!

luotinen · « **Reply #374 on:** March 24, 2006, 11:44:00 AM »

Is GDR-8163RBB the same as GDR-8163B?

If not, does the mod work on a GDR-8163RBB?

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