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[smokeingit]

i dont understand what the hell is going on either.. my 200 gig xbox was banned and its been the same HD for the past year with the X3 chip. just upgraded the chips, but my friend that has a 160 gig with my old chip in his my X2 pro has yet to be banned.... note... it has been the same exact HD since the introduction of LBA 48 and i have been online ever since.

[kakelkund]

QUOTE (lookformeb @ Nov 12 2004, 04:50 PM)

Just my input: I'v been on Halo2 since it came out...  Guess what?  No bans yet (knock on wood).  My Setup: - Xbox v1.0 - 160GB Locked Samsung HDD - SmartXX v2 - Never used any leaked / pirated games - All gamesaves are legit - Standard dashboard files on C: and apps, etc on e:, f: Those who know nothing about this will not agree, but perhaps SmartXX's design relating to the Crypt-Stealth Technology is exactly all it's cracked up to be.

I also had my hope on the Live Detection Prevention with Crypt-Stealth Technology feature of SmartXX. But Xor, the Super Moderator in SmartXX forums tells us that the Live Detection Prevention with Crypt-Stealth Technology doesn´t work anymore...
Recent Xbox Live Bans and Theories in SmartXX forum

[Penfoldian]

QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 12 2004, 07:46 PM)

i dont understand what the hell is going on either.. my 200 gig xbox was banned and its been the same HD for the past year with the X3 chip. just upgraded the chips, but my friend that has a 160 gig with my old chip in his my X2 pro has yet to be banned.... note... it has been the same exact HD since the introduction of LBA 48 and i have been online ever since.

Yeah i shot him in the head on RB63BA the other day...where were you?

Nah serious, I would like to tell you a thoery but I hate em right now! so read the previous posts and make it out for your self.

[krajyk]

Has anyone tried this?  You are on Live with a stock box.  You mod your box and wait to go online when Halo 2 comes out.  Then before going onto LIve for the first time, you get a new Live account and you go on Live for the first time with modded box.  Would you get banned?  According to the marriage theory where the HD and EEProm combo is stored, is it keyed off the Live account or something from your box (maybe MAC address)?

[tank1916]

All right, here's something to think about. My friend has a v1.0 xbox and is using exploits and got banned. Just to confirm that you can get banned by exploits too. Anyway, he has a bigger hdd installed but i am not too sure that it searches for a bigger hdd when banning you. I'm saying this because i have heard the new crystal edition xbox has an 80 gig hard drive, so if xbl was detecting the size, it would most likey be banning everyone that has the crystal one even when they dont have modded xboxs.

[Panick]

QUOTE (krajyk @ Nov 12 2004, 08:30 PM)

Has anyone tried this?  You are on Live with a stock box.  You mod your box and wait to go online when Halo 2 comes out.  Then before going onto LIve for the first time, you get a new Live account and you go on Live for the first time with modded box.  Would you get banned?  According to the marriage theory where the HD and EEProm combo is stored, is it keyed off the Live account or something from your box (maybe MAC address)?

If you are buying into the theory that M$ is keeping a database of which HDs are with which EEPROMs then it doesn't matter what gamertag you use if you modify it. The system would check the EEPROM against it's database and if the HD serial number didn't match what was in it, that EEPROM gets banned. That would also explain how any "special" giant hard drive edition XBoxes don't get banned. The first time you use Live the system stores the EEPROM and links it to the HD serial number. After that if you ever change the HD without swapping to a new EEPROM you can bet on being banned. This would also explain how some people who modded their XBoxes before they ever went on Live don't get banned.

There is no reason M$ can't be using both the LPC check and the HD serial check as compliments to each other. Defeating them both is also fairly easy once you figure out exactly what they're doing for detection.

[Killa420]

The new crystal boxes come with 80 gig hd's ?

[mc_365]

Do you guys not get it.  A Big HD can Not Be Detected by Scanning For Size.  When Using a retail Bios The HD can Only be 8Gigs  Retail Bios Will Not Register Anything Except 8Gigs C D E X Y Z and memory cards thats the only drive xbox live can see.  They can however read a drive serial number or model number.

[Devastator36]

so im pretty sure the dont marry the hdd num to the eeprom. because its been like tqwo or three days now and he still get on live withought a problem.

[Killa420]

They arent scanning hd's for certain files b/c if they were. I'd be banned, along with my friend. We both have unleashx(renamed to evoxdash.xbe) and avalaunch on c:\ , normal stuff on e:\ and games / apps all over f:\.  We have never d/l any hacked saved files so maby they can dectect that but I dont know. All I know is if they did indeed scanned hd's for certain files, we woulda done been banned.

[mrjkwik]

DZV,

going on the possible lpc scan, you said that even if the d0 is switched off, they may be able to read it.  what if the incoming power was switched off also?  i know this could take some "old school" wiring, but could be another possible "prevention".

thanks for the info.

btw, if you do think that switching both power and ground off to the chip would work, which pin(s) is power.  i'm thinking #9?

[pimpkid]

a d0 only switch doesn't disable the chip, it just prevents the xbox from booting from lpc.
a switch on wire #9 is not a guarantee that the chip won't draw power, i've modded several xboxes w/ cheapmods and verified that even with #9 completely disconnected, the chip still draws power and WILL function (x2's will still draw power on other points, but will not boot).

sliding the chip off of the pin header would probably do the trick, although its a pain in the ass for the average user.  i think if someone here has the time, patience, and extra eeprom(s), it would be interesting to see if, with the chip disabled, and the xbox logged into live, there are any "spikes" on any of the lpc points.  maybe rig up a multimeter to them one at a time and test it out?  I have the equipment to do it, but don't have a live account to test it with.

ps: if anyone wants to undertake this endeavor, i may be able to provide a few eeproms to help them along.  DON't pm me, email me @ [email protected]

***edit/ammendment***:
any1 here use a split tsop to go on live? recently?
any1 here have a live account they can let me use to do some tests?  I have a dozen unbanned xboxes that i can use varying configurations with.

[solid7x2]

Currently on live for almost 24 hours.

made a 60mb seagate look completely stock, no foreign files, new gt, new eeprom

if i ever get banned using this setup, they are defintely checking hard drive types

[mrjkwik]

QUOTE

QUOTE (_InFeRnO_ @ Oct 11 2004, 01:18 PM) you just need to import an unbanned eeprom file to replace the banned one. This can be done using config magic. Be careful that you are sure that you know what you are doing as you can render your xbox useless by messing up. ...and you have to change your HDD's serial number. Why you ask, well simple answer is that this Serial Number is on M$'s list of banned users, the moment you appear with the same hardware, it's a pretty easy deduction as to what you've done and you'll be banned again.

i found this over in the smartxx section of these forums.  looks like XOR had an idea of what was going on back in october and many of us just never heard about it.  not his fault or ours.  just too bad it wasnt more advertised.  then again, if it was, would we have listened?  doesnt seem like the first time someone from smartxx has been looking ahead.  props to them.

[Big HDD]

OK, this is a repost of what happened to me, just a little more specific

I have a v1.0 xbox with a new power supply, a switchewd out from thomson to what is now a samsung dvd drive(but it is the xbox retail dvd drive, just not for this specific xbox), and i have now put in the original hard drive(that matches the mobo) back in. I have formatted it with slayers, but it is a 10GB seagate, so it made a 2GB F: Partition. i have cleared everything off of it and it is 100% stock. i then logged onto live, it did that update thingy that takes like...15 seconds(if that), and i thought oh shit, im banned....nope, i rebooted and i was still fine...
so everything is fine....then i wanna play foundation in halo 2, so i go to my other xbox and get the gamesave and put it on my memcard. I am pretty sure the save is PAL, but not hacked, and i started playin on live with it and it worked fine.
the next morningi got on agaion, and everything worked fine. then i tried hooking up a second controller to log in as guest, and it would not let my guest log on.....i then went to troubleshooter, and it gave me the modified hard/softyware error, and continues to every time i try to log on.
any ides?