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[vyper883]

QUOTE (jason_007 @ Nov 13 2004, 02:18 AM)

You people deserve to get banned. You violate the terms and conditions of XBOX Live and will pay the consequences. Honest folk who have paid their subscriptions are justifiably laughing at you pirates. Losers.  Conform to MS's plan and you will be spared. I'm playing Halo 2 on Live and loving it - maybe you cheapskates should learn from me.

I apologize the the forum moderators in advance for my rant.

Man, you are a dumbass. and ignorant!
First of all, a modded XBOX does not mean piracy!
Second, even if an XBOX IS modded, you still need to pay for your subscription to XBOX LIVE, and you STILL need to purchase the retail game to PLAY it on XBOX live, Your XBOX has to have it's chip disabled when you're on XBL. Your XBOX has to work in a stock state, when you're on XBOX live. A modded box with it's chip disabled is no different than a XBOX straight from the factory, and modders-no modders alike have to abide by the same rules, while logged on to XBL. Anyone who has modded their XBOX, has done so in order to unleash the XBOX's capabilities. We modders can store ALL our music, videos, and pictures on our XBOX, We can store our legally purchased games on the hard drive, thus avoiding damage to our retail game DVDs, and we get faster loading times as well. It is anyones given right to make a copy of software, or games that they already own. Of course we can only use those benefits during offline play, and unfortunately there are modders who copy games onto their HDD that they do not own, but it's no dfferent from anyone that owns a PC. I personally own every game that I play too! I PAY for my subscription to XBL, and I PAID for HALO2, which is no different fro what you, or any modder have done, in order to play on XBL. So, you have absolutely no right to come to this forum to imply that we are a bunch of theives. Maybe next time you should educate yourself, to avoid future embarassment, before talking trash about something that clearly you know NOTHING about!
Cheers!  

[southbark]

QUOTE (vyper883 @ Nov 12 2004, 10:55 PM)

I apologize the the forum moderators in advance for my rant. Man, you are a dumbass. and ignorant! First of all, a modded XBOX does not mean piracy! Second, even if an XBOX IS modded, you still need to pay for your subscription to XBOX LIVE, and you STILL need to purchase the retail game to PLAY it on XBOX live, Your XBOX has to have it's chip disabled when you're on XBL. Your XBOX has to work in a stock state, when you're on XBOX live. A modded box with it's chip disabled is no different than a XBOX straight from the factory, and modders-no modders alike have to abide by the same rules, while logged on to XBL. Anyone who has modded their XBOX, has done so in order to unleash the XBOX's capabilities. We modders can store ALL our music, videos, and pictures on our XBOX, We can store our legally purchased games on the hard drive, thus avoiding damage to our retail game DVDs, and we get faster loading times as well. It is anyones given right to make a copy of software, or games that they already own. Of course we can only use those benefits during offline play, and unfortunately there are modders who copy games onto their HDD that they do not own, but it's no dfferent from anyone that owns a PC. I personally own every game that I play too! I PAY for my subscription to XBL, and I PAID for HALO2, which is no different fro what you, or any modder have done, in order to play on XBL. So, you have absolutely no right to come to this forum to imply that we are a bunch of theives. Maybe next time you should educate yourself, to avoid future embarassment, before talking trash about something that clearly you know NOTHING about! Cheers!

VYPER883,

Its not even worth acknowleging that persons stupidity

[vyper883]

QUOTE (southbark @ Nov 13 2004, 07:06 AM)

VYPER883, Its not even worth acknowleging that persons stupidity

Yeah, I know, but he deserved it. lol, Anyway....Ahem.....back to topic I guess...

[southbark]

As far as i am aware it is hard coded into the drive on one of the chips,If you can find which chip you might be able to but i doubt it very seriously

[L337CH337]

Hey, I got a good way to figure out what the hell is going on...

Monitor packet information from your xbox to the internet at about boot time and when a game is loading.

I think that would be much easier than dissassembling all sortsa crap

juss though the idea was a good one, so someone please try it




greetz to the sceners


EDIT: for example, if your serial number is transmitted, along with your hdd serial, or a fill file list of all the files on E: or something, then we got a good idea of what they're doing.
I don't know, it could all be a fluke (like M$ finally decided to get to banning suspicious people, not just stupid-asses with their chip on and trying to get on live)

[dmauro]

QUOTE (jason_007 @ Nov 13 2004, 02:18 AM)

You people deserve to get banned. You violate the terms and conditions of XBOX Live and will pay the consequences. Honest folk who have paid their subscriptions are justifiably laughing at you pirates. Losers.  Conform to MS's plan and you will be spared. I'm playing Halo 2 on Live and loving it - maybe you cheapskates should learn from me.

Could we all please flood this guy with emails explaining to him the flaws in his "argument."  Preferably with plenty of profanity  ;P

What a jerk.

[Gumba]

QUOTE (dmauro @ Nov 13 2004, 09:03 AM)

Could we all please flood this guy with emails explaining to him the flaws in his "argument."  Preferably with plenty of profanity  ;P What a jerk.

two jerks does not an argument make... it just makes two jerks

[tribefiend]

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TOO MUCH READING! I'm losing all the cells in my brain staring at this computer trying to figure out how I'm gonna get back on Live without buying a new box. This is my quick story: 1. Got live 1.5 years ago 2. Modded and replaced stock with 160gb 1 year ago 3. Banned on 10th am From what I've read so far this is a great formula to get banned. Changed hard drives after live account created. The only problem I have with this is they were able to see that my hdd key or serial number had changed, I should have been banned a year ago. Anyway...tonight I am picking up my buddies stock virgin hdd and the eeprom. I will put these in my xbox. I guess that basically makes my xbox look like what his was shipped. We'll see what happens.

I posted this a couple of days ago in this thread.  

I have just received from my buddy that fresh eeprom and his stock hd.  Installed them both and made sure the hd was clean.  Went through account recovery and am  back on H2.  I have essentially turned my xbox into his.  We'll find in the morning if I'm going to be banned or not.  

I have also just in case disconnected the wires from my motherboard on my 2.2 lite.
They are actually still soldered on the board but the adapter to the chip has been disconnected so no power running to the chip at all.  I'm gonna do my best to leave it in this state as I don't really want to experiament with trying to figure out what will get me banned.  

I'll report back with any news in the morning.

[teknow]

QUOTE (johnw009 @ Nov 13 2004, 09:26 PM)

Okay I never went on XBL until I had a 60 gig HD added on with X2 Lite chip.  About a year ago I swapped to 60 gig for a 200 gig.  I'm still on XBL, as of yesterday, playing Halo 2 since the midnight sale.  So i don't think the HD + EEPRom is correct.

neither do I!  I have tried marriage by pass theories.  Edit:you told us chich chip are you using,

and what connection method?  Is this a solderless?  _  # of wires if soddered?  etc.


Thanks for some confirmation, on a theory that is seemingly largely ignored.

[teknow]

seems the forums have really quieted down.... guessing this is mass dismay.  Anyway it looks like Do Theories are being ignored.  I don't think its wrong, but if it is, then it is.  I don't mean to push... but Gumba, I haven't seen a reply from you on this... and the marriage theory, which I followed didn't work for me, and several others.... is it working for you and if so, how are you wired in to the mobo?

[hyp96er]

has anyone gotten banned in the last few days? ie 11th 12th?

just curious..

[tribefiend]

Well I just successfully logged on to XBL as i wake up this morning.  So it appears that my solution for now anyways works.  Brand new eeprom and new xbl virgin stock hdd.  The only thing that sucks now is I can't use my 160gb unless i swap them out to get to the mod side.

[CalifLove]

QUOTE (CalifLove @ Nov 10 2004, 10:14 AM)

Heres my Situation: I have 2 Xbox's. Both with X 2.1 Chips w/ Switches installed. Xbox #1 has a 160gb HDD with a buncha extra crap on it (EMUS, XBMC, MP3's etc). It also has copies of games I have purchased (and not purchased to be honest) This Xbox has worked fine on Live with Madden 05 (The only Live game I have). I have NEVER even turned the XBox on w/ The Chip turned on and the Ethernet cable plugged in. Xbox #2 has stock HDD and has never been on-line ever - Never connected to the Internet. It only has copies of games that I have purchased.

An update:

Xbox #1 as noted in quote was banned. One thing to point out was that I did not fully delete all non MS files from the stock HDD like I thought I did. There were still files from Avalaunch Dash on Z etc... However, My belief is that I prolly would have been better off continuing to use my modded xbox hdd on live instead of switching back to my stocker...but aw well. That Xbox becomes the 2nd bdrm DVD player now :-)

As for Xbox #2, I did locate my stock HDD for this box which never had been on-line. I went through and deleted EVERY non-ms file this time around - and I do mean everything.

After this, I turned chip off, went to MS Dash to be sure that there were no save files on the hdd. I then played a game of the original PGR1 just to create a save game to make sure that I hadn't deleted anything that would cause a game NOT to save etc...

I then proceeded to plug in the ethernet cord, fire up the box with Halo2 in it and went through all the updates needed for the Dash/Xbox Live.

I then tried to use the acct recovery tool to get my old GT and it then told me I could not use that GT account at that time (wtf does that mean???). I then used another GT that I just created from the 2 month free trial # that came with Halo2...
I got online and played halo only a few minutes, then went to bed.

The next day this whole "They put voltage to LPC point" theory came about so I decided to disconect the mod chip completly from the system so I disconnected the negative terminal and (accidently) pulled the "DAMN" d0 point but left all the other wires soldered on but removed the wire jack from the mod chip itself.

I then played last night with the same xbox and still have yet to be banned..so we'll see.

[gamefreakgcb]

. Im about to go back home and us emy XBox for Live. I dont have the stock HDD but the eeprom was never changed and the first time I went on Live with it was when i installed my 200GB in it. After that I did a couple of jobs for a friend and I think I might've put their HD's in my XBox but not sure. I will get home wednesday and try XBox Live. Also on a side note I DLed the pal english release of Halo 2 (I DIDNT WANT TO BUT I WAS LEAVING FOR A WEEK THE DAY HALO 2 WAS BEING RELEASED AND I WAS REALLY PISSED ABOUT IT AND JUST SAID FUCK IT THEN DL'ed THE GAME AND PLAYED FOR A FEW HOURS), I pre-ordered the LE version and told a friend of mine to pick it up for me. Im going to go home, delete the game saves and try to go online. I just hope my brother doesnt get the game as he wanted to go on XBox Live with it. Gonna call him up right now to make sure he didnt. Damn you MS, we're still playing by your rules on LIVE. May all the bastards who cheated on Live with their modchips BURN IN HELL. . DAMN IT.

[zenzen]

Ok, here some more general info that someone can make sense out of (regardless of what theories it effects!)

A quick history:
My box had been remodded with 3 different brand chips through out its life time. Each resolving an issue at the time,
Ive had a 40 gig (in 2002) then decided to upgrade
Ive had a HDD LOCKOUT problem with the old OEM 80GB Western Digitals in (Feb 2003)
I then replaced this with a Retail Western Digital 120 SE that worked fine later that year with an Xecuter clone (which also resolved the 160GIG limit) with a manual switch on the back of the console.
I signed up for XBOX live just to play MOTOGP (at the time) on THE 120 WD drive.

and Present:
Got a 250GB Maxtor when i swapped for an Aladdin Advance which supported on board software DISABLE (which means HOLDING the power button for the mod, and TAPPING for the stock bios) recovered my ACCOUNT on the 250MXTR

Recieved the PAL ver of HALO2, played Single and Multiplayer.

I still periodically downloaded content, and played random games within the last week even after HALO2 launch.

Loaded up the US release of HALO2 and found that the PAL saves are compatible with each other, however in doing so, exited and deleted the HALO2 save(due to the banning scare) but have bunch of random files in c, e, f!

I am still as of this moment playing SF ANNIVERSARY on live with no problems, no banning whatsover, it has been 36hours since, and I've rechecked as of this moment to make sure I am not banned.

Some one stated" that the "QUICK DOWNLOAD OR LIVE UPDATE" before they played HALO2 on LIVE has something to do with this..

Did this same update happen to the nonhalo2-people playing different games?

fortunately my SF ANNIV did not do any updates, nor have i updated my LIVE bios this year.. My bios still has no progressive output? Which I found was fixed with some random live updates a while back?

Due to this thread, Im am holding off on playing HALO2 on LIVE and just sticking with the System link for now (then deleting the save before I go on live again). I will confirm the moment my xbox gets banned without having any HALO2 save. But until then I am ban free at the moment.

Lets hope that this post REVERSE-9/11 does not hurt anymore people as it had already!