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[Gumba]

QUOTE (PhatheadWRX @ Nov 10 2004, 06:07 PM)

Signed up for live (July) after I upgraded my HD (Jan). I played Mon night after midnint and all day yesterday.  I logged on to add a friend this morning and I still was not banned.

Another positive confirmation

[Gumba]

QUOTE (bone135 @ Nov 10 2004, 06:15 PM)

I have a v1.4 halo xbox with a x2.3 lite and a 200gb hard drive.  All mods were done before setting up an xbox live account.  I have evox on the c drive with everything else on the f drive.  No french game.  I used evox to format and lock the drive.  I got my xbox trial account started 2 months ago.  Played halo 2 on live tues around 2am and then played all last night with no problems. Gumba I think you are right, if you do all the mods before you sign onto live for the first time with your xbox, you will be fine.

So basically, if you get your xbox banned, take it, sell it as a banned pre-modded xbox, then get a new one, and remod it. You should actually be able to make a profit on the sale I suppose. Remember to copy your favourite saved games

[ScoopyBadBoy]

brought a premodded xbox with 200GB HDD excuter 2.3 mod. signed upto live after all mods were done. Used live last few days no banning so far  

[eisfeld2k1]

So if i figured it right, its all about the HDD.

If you have an original HDD with evox and all kinds of stuff on it and your xbox live is setup with it, it should be no problem to connect and you won't get banned.

But if you have Xbox live allready set up and then change to an larger or diffrent HDD you will get banned ??
Right.


What about, you have been banned with your OG HDD and then got an new eeprom but still your OG HDD and now playing live again, that sould be fine too ?

So its all about when you did setup your xboxlive and not what size of HDD you have or what kind of stuff is on it !!

[slickdoody]

One thing that may be worth considering is....

Did you use the account recovery procedure to move your XBL info to your new upgraded HDD, or is your XBL info in an attached memory card?

I have an X3 w/ X3 bios and played Halo 2 on XBL w/ the chip disabled from 1-2am 11/9 w/o being banned.  I haven't had a chance to play on my xbox since then, so I may return to find myself banned.  My XBL info is only on the memory card, not the HDD.

Is it possible that if your XBL info isn't stored on the HDD, then the HDD info (serial, model) isn't checked?

[solid7x2]

no, the memory card thing has been thought to be previously not mattered, as per posts of people in past threads... although I have no experience with it

[zolton]

QUOTE (eisfeld2k1 @ Nov 10 2004, 06:34 PM)

So if i figured it right, its all about the HDD. If you have an original HDD with evox and all kinds of stuff on it and your xbox live is setup with it, it should be no problem to connect and you won't get banned. But if you have Xbox live allready set up and then change to an larger or diffrent HDD you will get banned ?? Right. What about, you have been banned with your OG HDD and then got an new eeprom but still your OG HDD and now playing live again, that sould be fine too ? So its all about when you did setup your xboxlive and not what size of HDD you have or what kind of stuff is on it !!

This is my thoughts exactly... I am still playing and i have a modded xbox... i installed live after the modding....

So what i am thinking is..

If you signed up for live after modding. you should be fine...


Those who got banned, is this true??

[Gumba]

QUOTE (eisfeld2k1 @ Nov 10 2004, 06:34 PM)

So if i figured it right, its all about the HDD. If you have an original HDD with evox and all kinds of stuff on it and your xbox live is setup with it, it should be no problem to connect and you won't get banned. But if you have Xbox live allready set up and then change to an larger or diffrent HDD you will get banned ?? Right. What about, you have been banned with your OG HDD and then got an new eeprom but still your OG HDD and now playing live again, that sould be fine too ? So its all about when you did setup your xboxlive and not what size of HDD you have or what kind of stuff is on it !!

Not sure what you mean by OG, but no, I think you will get your new EEPROM banned again if you connect with a banned HD

(this is based on distilled comments from the previous banning related to the french leak)

Of course, this basically needs testing...

[torgo]

One thing that I am wondering is, maybe it's checking the configuration of the XBOX at the time when you first registered that machine on XBL.

When I registered on XBL, I already had my 120GB HD in. The problem is, I can't test this, because my motehrboard took a crap 2 weeks ago.

This theory seems to make sense though, because some have indicated that they were banned just because they had replaced their optical drive. That would mean that when they registered that system, it created the SSID or whatever you want to call it, based on the hardware in the unit at that time. This is very similar to how XP Home acts. If you change enough hardware out, it notices the changes and make's you re-activate your OS.

[Gumba]

QUOTE (zolton @ Nov 10 2004, 06:39 PM)

This is my thoughts exactly... I am still playing and i have a modded xbox... i installed live after the modding.... So what i am thinking is.. If you signed up for live after modding. you should be fine... Those who got banned, is this true??

All evidence currently supports that conclusion

The Halo 2/Nov 9th XBL Bannings

From what I can tell, you only get banned if you swap your HD *after* you first go onto XBL with a given Xbox.

Sooo, if you're planning to upgrade an Xbox's HD, you need to do it before you first connect it to XBL.

But if you didn't do your upgrade before you signed on to XBL with that Xbox the first time, then you should sell your Xbox, and remod another one.

[Leafz]

So your suggesting i replace my hd and eeprom to prevent banning. I was on last night around 4am EST after i flashed a new EEPROM to my xbox b/c my original account was banned b/c i believe my chip was on. I dont know forsure if it was on but i believe it was. Tonight around 5ish EST i will check if i am banned from live and post results. Who know, maybe someone from MS is actually reading this forum. What if their getting ideas of ways to ban us from what people have said. You never know. If i do infact get banned, i will try the theroy of new HD and new EEPROm if that fails looks like its time for me to buy a new xbox just for Live. (ie HALO2 and Almost all EA titles )

[x66Shadow66x]

I was banned this morning. I have a stock hd still in with the xenium ice. Was banned previously and got new fresh eeproms. It might be like gumba is saying, that they had my hd key in their databases and they see that it tried to go online with a new eeprom.

[Gumba]

QUOTE (Leafz @ Nov 10 2004, 06:50 PM)

So your suggesting i replace my hd and eeprom to prevent banning. I was on last night around 4am EST after i flashed a new EEPROM to my xbox b/c my original account was banned b/c i believe my chip was on. I dont know forsure if it was on but i believe it was. Tonight around 5ish EST i will check if i am banned from live and post results. Who know, maybe someone from MS is actually reading this forum. What if their getting ideas of ways to ban us from what people have said. You never know. If i do infact get banned, i will try the theroy of new HD and new EEPROm if that fails looks like its time for me to buy a new xbox just for Live. (ie HALO2 and Almost all EA titles )

Yes,

Remember to use an XBL blocking BIOS so that you can't accidentally get banned for having a modchip active.

[miggidy]

Oh and just an FYI,
I have a 120 gig hdd, loaded with EvoX and a few apps and I've been playing Halo 2 online just fine....

[Gumba]

QUOTE (x66Shadow66x @ Nov 10 2004, 06:59 PM)

I was banned this morning. I have a stock hd still in with the xenium ice. Was banned previously and got new fresh eeproms. It might be like gumba is saying, that they had my hd key in their databases and they see that it tried to go online with a new eeprom.

Yup, another confirmation, from a sadder direction though

I would suggest getting a new eeprom, and a new HD, upgrading to both, then going back online.

If the theory holds, then hopefully you'll be fine