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ovis

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« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2004, 07:55:00 AM »

Hi Gumbo and everyone else,

I'm a long time lurker and hope some of what I have to say can/will help....

timeline.......

1) Bought v1.0 xbox in 2002
2) Installed matrix in Nov 2002 (no HD upgrade)
3) Got Xbox Live in Jan 2003, playing online, using eject trick (still no HD upgrade)
4) Upgraded HD to 80gb in Oct 2003 and also added a switch to turn off Matrix and upgraded bios to prevent xbox from signing on to xbox live when matrix is enabled.
5) XBox live account expired in Feb 2004.
6) Created another Xbox live account in March 2004
7) Have NEVER been banned
8) C: is clean but have loads of stuff on E:
9) Have never run pre-release or pirated H2

I was able to go online on the 5th oF Nov. Haven't tried to since then. Haven't got H2 as yet. Also I am in the UK.

What are your thoughts? mine are....

1) I think the Eprom-HDD marriage hypothesis can be   PROVED if I dont get banned
2) Dirty HD (with extra .xbe) is given support if I get banned.
3) Hard disk model/serial number not matching stock theory is given support if I get banned
4) Hard disk size being sent theory is given support if I get banned

I will get H2 retail in the next 2 days, I can't check my xbox for the next 1-2 days either. I will get back to this thread/forum with what happens..

thanks

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« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2004, 08:03:00 AM »



I suspect that using whatever methods they do use, that MS have been gathering the relevant info for months about modded Xbox. They then used the launch of Halo 2 as the perfect opportunity to bring the bans into action. Tens of thousands of gamers are now shafted and will have to spend dosh on new boxes or workrounds, when what they really want to be doing is playing Halo 2 online. Regardless of the rights and wrongs, you have to admire MSs up front cheek with the timing, given the clamour and anticipation for Halo 2.

You've waited 3 years and then BANG, game over!

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« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2004, 08:06:00 AM »

QUOTE (pike @ Nov 10 2004, 11:06 AM)


You've waited 3 years and then BANG, game over!

what gets me is, people either will get a new xbox and keep their live accounts or MS will loose money if people all together just say shit on xblive and go play xbconnect. just as good IMO.
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« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2004, 08:30:00 AM »

I think this stuff is happening because halo 2 is freakin huge.  everyone wants it (or has it by now) and almost everyone who has it wants to play on live.  some modders will be pushed towards buying a new xbox or not playing on live so m$ is getting more money this way.  also because so many new people are getting this game and live m$ no longer needs the modders for their income on live, so they are now willing to ban everyone they can, but being smart enough not to break the law. Im not sure if its actually illegal or not but i heard it was to randomly scan drives.  if it wasnt, im sure everyone would be banned.

just m 2 cents
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« Reply #79 on: November 10, 2004, 08:32:00 AM »

{neil}what do i need to do
{neil}get a new xbox?
{Aris}yes
{neil}ok
{Aris}because you cannot use that console in Xbox anymore
{neil}what about my xbox live account
{Aris}you can use it in case you buy a new console
{neil}ok so my account is still ok, not banned or anything
{Aris}yes, it is still ok
{neil}how will i know if it is not terminated
{Aris}it will not be terminated unless you request for the cancellation
{neil}is live checking for upgraded hard drives or bad files or what
{Aris}yes, they are checking if the console is modifed

MS Chat with a REP.  there u go.
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« Reply #80 on: November 10, 2004, 08:53:00 AM »

So if I have the same eeprom and HD that I logged on to live with the first time (200 gig) and have never changed it or have been banned by turning the chip on, etc.  I should be OK right?  It seems like those people are.
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« Reply #81 on: November 10, 2004, 08:54:00 AM »

QUOTE (christ123 @ Nov 10 2004, 04:42 PM)
i modded my xbox about 6 months ago with a 120gb and got halo 2 and live yesterday. played it for about 8 hours with lots of signing in and out and i'm fine! no ban as yet.
my C: is not stock looking and has heaps of apps on it  blink.gif

Remember it does take about 24hrs to get banned.

But I believe you should be okay smile.gif
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solid7x2

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« Reply #82 on: November 10, 2004, 08:57:00 AM »

you should be ok, but the only way to know is to grab your sack, and sign on.  its scary hehe
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Gumba

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« Reply #83 on: November 10, 2004, 08:57:00 AM »

QUOTE (the_bond @ Nov 10 2004, 04:50 PM)
I was banned previously with the modified error. To get rid of that i used a fresh Eeprom and used my stock HD. Got rid of anything from its C:\ and E:\ that was suspicious and brought it to the factory condition. I m booting from F:\. For the time being i dont have any applications or so in order to prevent unknown and strange game saves. I m trying to be on a safer side.

I have been online after this without getting banned. I've been playing Halo 2 ever since its been out.

Also i m using my original GT.

Okay, so when you were banned previously, were you using a different HD, and then when you replaced your eeprom you swapped back to the stock drive?

How long ago did you get banned?
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« Reply #84 on: November 10, 2004, 09:01:00 AM »

QUOTE (ovis @ Nov 10 2004, 04:58 PM)
Hi Gumbo and everyone else,

I'm a long time lurker and hope some of what I have to say can/will help....

timeline.......

1) Bought v1.0 xbox in 2002
2) Installed matrix in Nov 2002 (no HD upgrade)
3) Got Xbox Live in Jan 2003, playing online, using eject trick (still no HD upgrade)
4) Upgraded HD to 80gb in Oct 2003 and also added a switch to turn off Matrix and upgraded bios to prevent xbox from signing on to xbox live when matrix is enabled.
5) XBox live account expired in Feb 2004.
6) Created another Xbox live account in March 2004
7) Have NEVER been banned
8) C: is clean but have loads of stuff on E:
9) Have never run pre-release or pirated H2

I was able to go online on the 5th oF Nov. Haven't tried to since then. Haven't got H2 as yet. Also I am in the UK.

What are your thoughts? mine are....

1) I think the Eprom-HDD marriage hypothesis can be   PROVED if I dont get banned
2) Dirty HD (with extra .xbe) is given support if I get banned.
3) Hard disk model/serial number not matching stock theory is given support if I get banned
4) Hard disk size being sent theory is given support if I get banned

I will get H2 retail in the next 2 days, I can't check my xbox for the next 1-2 days either. I will get back to this thread/forum with what happens..

thanks

Yes, the other part of the hard drive marriage theory is that MS only started collecting these stats 8 months ago or so, since you upgraded your HD over 8 months ago (Oct 2003), then it'll be as if you always had that 80GB drive even though you got XBL before the upgrade.

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« Reply #85 on: November 10, 2004, 09:04:00 AM »

QUOTE (Rombus @ Nov 10 2004, 04:58 PM)
1.0 xbox with pinheader X3 with latest bios
Segate 120 gig hd (ST3120022A)
entire install was on F drive, no non stock files any any other drive.
Played on live fine all day yesterday, woke up this morning and checked and my xbox has been banned.

Never touched the french game

I have the EXACT same setup except a Maxtor 120 GB.  I played Tiger Woods 2K5 a lot on Live.  Signed up for live (July) after I upgraded my HD (Jan).

I played Mon night after midnint and all day yesterday.  I logged on to add a friend this morning and I still was not banned.

Had you ever been banned before?  I have not, yet.  unsure.gif
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Gumba

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« Reply #86 on: November 10, 2004, 09:06:00 AM »

QUOTE (Rombus @ Nov 10 2004, 04:58 PM)
I lurk here alot, but i figured i would add my info for the cause:
1.0 xbox with pinheader X3 with latest bios
Segate 120 gig hd (ST3120022A)
entire install was on F drive, no non stock files any any other drive.
Played on live fine all day yesterday, woke up this morning and checked and my xbox has been banned.

Have not been on live since late june when i first got it, Was only on for about 1 min once after i installed my mod because i booted with chip off and network cable plugged in.

Never even attempted to play on live with chip, always cept network cable disconnected  when using the mod.

ONLY game ive played online since i had the mod was Halo2, and it was just yesterday.

Never touched the french game

XYZ codes:
X: 0000-f001
Y: 0000-6860
Z: 8015 - 190D
(according to fuzzys chart, this would indiacte an allways on LPC mod, but my x3 has always been disabled when i went on live.)

If anyone wants any other info from me, ask away.

So, you went on live with your current xbox *before* you upgraded your HD...

thus your xbox was married to its stock HD as far XBL is concerned

then you upgraded your HD, and went back on live, MS detected your Xbox's unfaithfullness and has banned it from XBL.

Right?

I think you'll need to replace the eeprom *AND* HD to get back on live with that Xbox.


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« Reply #87 on: November 10, 2004, 09:10:00 AM »

QUOTE (djjsin @ Nov 10 2004, 05:35 PM)
figured this might help a bit.  I got a v1.1 xbox, changed the drive before i ever connected to xbox live (xbox live wasn't around when I modded this system).  formatted the Drive using Evox.  have all games/apps stored on my F drive.  Using a xecuter 2.3b lite with xecuter 4183 bios.  I have a 120g Seagate in my system, locked with configmagic final.  i was off and all xbox live all yesterday, lastnight played Halo 2 online for hours.  This morning (about an hour ago) I checked, and was still able to connect to xbox live without any issues.

Thanks, another confirmation for my theory smile.gif
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« Reply #88 on: November 10, 2004, 09:11:00 AM »

QUOTE (OpenXbox @ Nov 10 2004, 05:56 PM)
So if I have the same eeprom and HD that I logged on to live with the first time (200 gig) and have never changed it or have been banned by turning the chip on, etc.  I should be OK right?  It seems like those people are.

Yes, according to what I can I tell, you should be fine smile.gif

Just make sure you continue to use an XBL blocking BIOS, and don't upgrade that Xboxes HD again.
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« Reply #89 on: November 10, 2004, 09:19:00 AM »

I have a v1.4 halo xbox with a x2.3 lite and a 200gb hard drive.  All mods were done before setting up an xbox live account.  I have evox on the c drive with everything else on the f drive.  No french game.  I used evox to format and lock the drive.  I got my xbox trial account started 2 months ago.  Played halo 2 on live tues around 2am and then played all last night with no problems.

Gumba I think you are right, if you do all the mods before you sign onto live for the first time with your xbox, you will be fine.
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