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[Dra60nSlayer]

QUOTE (heinrich @ Nov 10 2004, 06:12 AM)

Anyone bothered to check the halo2 .xbe ? 0x0041158C, "XboxHardwareInfo" 0x00411594, "XboxKrnlVersion" 0x00411770, "HalDiskSerialNumber" 0x00411774, "HalDiskModelNumber" etc

My teory is that:
0x0041158C, "XboxHardwareInfo"
0x00411594, "XboxKrnlVersion"
Is used to determin if dash needs to be updated to play Halo2 on this xbox IE run dashupdate.xbe

And this part:
0x00411770, "HalDiskSerialNumber"
0x00411774, "HalDiskModelNumber"
is used to determin if it will load a payed "downloadeble content"
(you can only use it on the xbox you used when you payed for it)

Did anyone checked another game xbe?

This post has been edited by Dra60nSlayer: Nov 10 2004, 02:49 PM

[pingrr]

I have a 250gb hdd and yesterday was the first time I went on live.  The account was even set up yesterday.  Everythin gworked fine for the 1 1/2 I played.  I will report back when I get off work to let you know If it banned me or not.

Hopfully they just record the eprom and hdd serial number when you originally sighn on.  So as long as they always match your fine.

[nezff]

like i said, i don't THINK im banned. no email from xbox.com telling me yet. LOL

[mrjkwik]

does anybody have the know how or the means to deconstruct these live updates and see what was added?

[Gumba]

QUOTE (C_Ripper @ Nov 10 2004, 03:41 PM)

What about when a hard drive in a system dies under warranty and M$ replaces it? If there was some sort of marriage made then that unmodded xbox wouldn't work. Plus there are probably tons of people that have replaced their drives (on out of warranty systems) themselves with parts purchased from Ebay and are running unmodded.

When MS replaces your HD, they can divorce the old one.

You can't replace the HD on an unmodded system without using a mod or soft-exploit or something lock the HD. So this is not something normal people are getting done.

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I'm putting money on the fact that they are either scanning the whole drive and seeing if it's partitioned differently than original, scanning the C and E drives for files that don't belong, or both.

Unfortunately, there are many many people who can disprove that theory, I don't think anyone can currently disprove mine.

[Gumba]

QUOTE (pingrr @ Nov 10 2004, 03:47 PM)

I have a 250gb hdd and yesterday was the first time I went on live.  The account was even set up yesterday.  Everythin gworked fine for the 1 1/2 I played.  I will report back when I get off work to let you know If it banned me or not. Hopfully they just record the eprom and hdd serial number when you originally sighn on.  So as long as they always match your fine.

Yes, that is what I hope

Looking forward to your results

[ynot]

Alright here is my input on the ban situation.  I have heard from another forum a guy chatted with a MS Rep and asked about putting a larger hard drive in his Xbox for Media purposes only.  The MS Rep replied that they will now be checking the hard drives of the Xbox’s for any extra .XBE files that should no be on it.  In other words if you have anything from emulators to media players on there your most likely going to get banned.  I have no clue how they can go through your hard drive.  I myself think it would be illegal/invasion of privacy.  I have also heard that if you went online with a pre-copy of halo regardless if it was a legit copy or not they somehow disabled your Xbox permanently.  The first part about the guy talking to an MS Rep is from another forum.  The part about your Xbox being permanently disabled was from a fellow gamer who had his friend call him and say that his Xbox was killed because he went online early with halo2.  Take this post as far as you will but it does kind of make sense.  If MS is searching your drive for any .XBE files that should not be there and I'm sure they do have the capability and you’re most likely going to get banned.  I should add that in the forum that I read the part about the MS Rep. the reply from the Rep was that anyone with a modded Xbox would get a surprise if they went on XBL and he would say what would happen.  I myself have extra files on my Xbox for media services and have only gone onto live once with a stock hard drive and a chip disabled.  I haven't tried to log back into live as of yet, but as soon as I do I will certainly post if I have been banned or not.  This will kind of help to find out if they are actually searching for the .XBE files or not since other than those and the chip my box is stock.

[Gumba]

QUOTE (ynot @ Nov 10 2004, 04:05 PM)

I myself have extra files on my Xbox for media services and have only gone onto live once with a stock hard drive and a chip disabled.  I haven't tried to log back into live as of yet, but as soon as I do I will certainly post if I have been banned or not.  This will kind of help to find out if they are actually searching for the .XBE files or not since other than those and the chip my box is stock.

Looking forward to your results too, if you don't get banned, it means we can probably put the "dirty hd" possible red-herring to bed )

PS: I do think that if you use online cheats then you're asking to get banned

[BobBrkersMyHero]

alright i just got an X3 like 6 days ago..so i havent got around to switching out the HDD yet...i played on live all day yesterday and didnt get banned

i do however have dvd2xbox in my apps on E:/ and original halo in games on E:/

i am going to play it when i get home from school on live and i'll report how it goes...before then does anyone have an idea what might keep me from getting banned?

[Gumba]

QUOTE (C_Ripper @ Nov 10 2004, 04:16 PM)

Not that I can prove anything but I'm sure they aren't divorcing the harddrive-EEPROM from one another... Do you realize how far removed the Xbox repair service department and the Xbox Live service are from one another? That process would be a nightmare. Not that they couldn't do it, but it'd be a huge pain in the ass.

no, it would be automatic

All they would need to do is enter the SN from the xbox into a database and the program would do it.

I'm sure they *do* enter the SN into a Database... and the programming would be trivial... it *is* MS we're talking about here you know... you know... the world's largest software manufacturer.

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Also, did you read what I posted? I'm not talking about after market hard drives. I'm talking about taking an original, M$, already locked drive from one system and putting it into another system which had drive failure. While this is voiding the warranty on the hardware itself, it's certainly no grounds for Xbox Live banning.

Yes, I read what you said, and that wouldn't work, you can't use an HD from one xbox in another xbox, unless you first unlock it in the original xbox, then relock it in the new xbox.

They are banning people who change their Xbox's HD *after* they first connect that Xbox to XBL. This is pretty much fact now.

[Gumba]

QUOTE (BobBrkersMyHero @ Nov 10 2004, 04:24 PM)

alright i just got an X3 like 6 days ago..so i havent got around to switching out the HDD yet...i played on live all day yesterday and didnt get banned i do however have dvd2xbox in my apps on E:/ and original halo in games on E:/ i am going to play it when i get home from school on live and i'll report how it goes...before then does anyone have an idea what might keep me from getting banned?

When you upgrade the HD, replace your EEPROM too.

If you do one or the other, but not both, I suspect you will get banned.

[nezff]

[christ123]

[nezff]

QUOTE (christ123 @ Nov 10 2004, 10:42 AM)

i modded my xbox about 6 months ago with a 120gb and got halo 2 and live yesterday. played it for about 8 hours with lots of signing in and out and i'm fine! no ban as yet. my C: is not stock looking and has heaps of apps on it

ok so u signed in for the FIRST time with the updated hdd?  if so, then this might be the reason for the bannings.  are u still playing today with it without problems???

[christ123]

no problems at all...ive been leaving the xbox on the halo 2 screen logged into xboxlive too.