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[Tsharkou]

But if you don't want to listen to someone who got burned the hard way keep on...until you have no eeproms left and then you end up spending money for a new box

[A.Z.BEST]

You may be right, but someone has to change the HDD and tell us if it helped or not. If not, we'll search for another reason of banning. But I can't check it by myself, cause I am not banned yet.

[exiva]

a hd scan.
and
c) i donno mabye this wont work....  

[Penfoldian]

anyone thought about there IP address?

[A.Z.BEST]

QUOTE (Penfoldian @ Oct 19 2004, 04:10 PM)

anyone thought about there IP address?

Everyone thought about this and it's not possible as well. Did you think about dynamic changing IP? Did you think about passive IP and that there can be more than one person under this network and IP? M$ can not ban for this.

[Penfoldian]

Ok lets apply some commen sense to this then.

We have

Mac Address. Changeable
HDD. Changable
Xbox. Changable
GT. not so Changeable
IP. Changeable
System Stuff. Changeable

My friend I know I have left out a few things but it is so easy to Ban and completely ban someone based on there gamertag, its just a simple database query and bam! your banned. The second u have been detected they they must have a list off all the systems banned and who it was online thats easy and to make a simple script making all systems be banned with that gamer tag is not impossible to do. However the point about using your gamer tag on someone elses Xbox again you think would cancel out that theory but that can be overcome too, cause they can also program that database not to ban users who have already had account on a xbox not banned so they dont get hurt by it. U got to remember this is M$' product they know it better than we do they know what can be done to it and what cant, what they cant do its determine how fast we get to know that.

why do u think they already had the system to ban moddified consoles if they did not know it could be modified?

[solid7x2]

My personal opinion on this matter is that it is a combination of everything. Why does it have to be one thing banning xbox's?  

"Xbox Live has recently initiated additional security measures to ensure that those connecting to Xbox Live with modified hardware will be removed from the system."

It doesnt say anything about having one defining thing.  It will be very hard to determine what it is, and even harder the more 'new' ways there are to get banned.  I am using a matrix with a larger hd, and havent gotten banned yet, but if i did get banned, im assuming a new gamers tag, new hard drive (any size not necisarily stock), and new eeprom would fix the situation.

why doesnt someone who is banned try doing this, and simply use one of those 2 free month codes so ur not wasting 50 bucks if it doesnt work? you used to be able to get them off ebay for $5, do a search on xbox trial. (not sure if they are still around)

also about MS losing money to hackers and losing money on every cosole, If you were bill gates and had the power to make the decision to take out all the 'hackers' (assuming the technology was already there) maybe he was tolerant before but halo 2 was the last straw.  and if he can successfully keep all the 'hackers' continuously banned, forcing us to buy a second xbox thats even more money he can potentially make.  also with halo 2 coming out he may not be worried about the chump change he will make on us off of live because overall im thinkin there are a lot more unmodded xbox's then modded. heres where the money is coming from:

"MS has announced that pre-orders for Xbox-exclusive title Halo 2 have passed 1.5 million in the United States alone, breaking videogame records and guaranteeing first-day revenues higher than any movie in history." from xbox-scene's front page

*edit* in no way however am i saying we should give up or stop trying to figure this out tho.

[A.Z.BEST]

I have no dumb idea. Actually it looks like the ppl are guilty. Almost everyone who got banned, was banned at least once, and now M$ has started to check HDDs serial number. My Xbox works fine, cause I've never logged on Live with modchip on. And so the XYZ codes are perfect in case of my Xbox.

[Penfoldian]

Ok erm.....

[A.Z.BEST]

QUOTE (Penfoldian @ Oct 19 2004, 08:48 PM)

The part about M$ finding away to detect those who have been banned before sounds dumb cause they always knew! how do you think u get banned in the first place? they allow to keep your gamertag providing u purchase a new xbox. Now they see thats not working there banning your arses even more!!!

They do it, and they find those "banned at least once" Xboxes due to the hardware, which remains the same. How about Hard drive serial number? It's very easy way to find an Xbox again.  But as soon as you buy a new Xbox - only for XBL, you become safe and your Gamertag will remain fine. Haven't you read, that M$ is banning actually "modded machines", not "users, who modify their consoles"?

[sludem]

hmm now that a think about it it might be a little deeper than the hard drive thing cuz the hard drive in my xbox now was never banned before untill last week when all this started so what was the reason for that ban? if that hard drive was never banned before. man i dont know just hope you smart guys findout whats up and share it with the rest of us

[A.Z.BEST]

QUOTE (sludem @ Oct 20 2004, 12:05 AM)

hmm now that a think about it it might be a little deeper than the hard drive thing cuz the hard drive in my xbox now was never banned before untill last week when all this started so what was the reason for that ban? if that hard drive was never banned before. man i dont know just hope you smart guys findout whats up and share it with the rest of us

You, your brother, your friend, your dog, your parrot- they may be the reasons. I did not get banned. Check my newest thread if you want a new EEPROM.

[sludem]

You, your brother, your friend, your dog, your parrot- they may be the reasons. I did not get banned. Check my newest thread if you want a new EEPROM.

[sludem]

[knodi]

QUOTE (sludem @ Oct 20 2004, 01:02 AM)

hey Knodi let us know how that works out with  no chip and all that

Ya i'm checking LIVE every 2 hours. I'll post it as soon as if I get banned.