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« Reply #90 on: October 22, 2004, 12:00:00 AM »

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The facts are simple no one really knows how they get the info(except modchip on of course) they are using to ban people.Any post about it are just endless speculation.

My advice is to for anyone who has not been banned to wait until after Nov 9 to go on XBL.we all know why there banning because only people with modded xboxes can use the info that was downloaded and played. so technically M$ can say anyone with a modded xbox has downloaded the game and played it.You must remember as far as they are concerned there is no reason for you to mod an xbox. I do mean no reason as far as M$ is concerned.


Has anyone ever noticed alot of people post there gamertag here and if you Believe M$ is not reading these forums then you deserve to be banned


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« Reply #91 on: October 22, 2004, 12:06:00 AM »

I have noticed quite a few people who post there gamertags here have been banned.
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« Reply #92 on: October 22, 2004, 12:59:00 AM »

After long long bullshit calls with xbl.... I hae come to think that this is all a waste of time. For the reason come on guys. Face it it is M$ I dont know what that means to you guys but they know more then we do. They got the power to do anything they want. And for u  those who dont agree email me or pm me and will talk haha. Look I have tryed everything you could do to the xbox and still got banned . I got emails from ms laughing at me cause they finially stopped us who have been banned . Like put it this way I use to have dtv access cards. Well work great for a couple of years . then dave aka dtv man shut it all down . Infact shut down the HU stream for dtv video access and came out with a new card. So put it this way If u been banned. Buy a new xbox a virgin xbox and put your live account on there and use it for live if it is that big of a deall 4 u. And use ur mod to do what u want. I am not trying to be a A$$ or anything but its not worth it .. Infact I got a letter in the mail about a year ago from dtv wanting a setlle fee of 2000$  and to turn over my hu loader that burns access cards for free dtv or they were gonna take me to court wich they did and I got fucked sooo lets just hope they dont do sumthin like that and send all of us letters inthe mail and try to take all of us to court or want money after all its M$ right think about it and get back on what u think about this post I just did hehe thanks guys lata
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« Reply #93 on: October 22, 2004, 06:22:00 AM »

QUOTE (Strud1512 @ Oct 22 2004, 01:40 AM)

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Hacked saves from specific games?


Can't be that I think, since there are legal ways of copying saves between consoles...  Memory Cards, Action Replay, the one from xboxsaves.com...

I think

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Save files from homebrew apps?
is unlikely as well since you could accidently copy those from someone else's xbox.

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Non-retail system files (EvolutionX, Avalunch etc)?
POssibility there.
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« Reply #94 on: October 22, 2004, 06:31:00 AM »

QUOTE (Tsharkou @ Oct 22 2004, 05:30 AM)
-I spent $50 on a new GT--not $149 on new xbox
-I still have my modded xbox but with a made stock HHD with nothing but what is required on c:\ and e:\ without any hacks
-I have been back on live for nearly 2 weeks without any problems

By that logic, a gamertag that has never had an xbox banned and that is using the stock HD and is careful to always boot retail bios to play on live should be okay...

Good news for me!  I have 3 HDs in my box, 1 for XBMC, 1 for 'Other' stuff, and 1 for Live (the original stock 8/10gb one).

As my modded X2 bios has 'live protection' in it, I should be good as long as I don't purposefully do something stupid (like boot M8 and try to go on live).

I'll let you know if I get banned.
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« Reply #95 on: October 22, 2004, 06:39:00 AM »

I hear a lot of talk about "is it legal?".  "MS Can't do that". "How can they ban you for a bigger HD"...

Bottom line:

There's no real legal precedent (yet) on whether or not modchips in general are legal, or whether modding your Xbox is legal.  Personally, I think it should be.  I bought by Xbox, it's mine. I own it.  If i want to take it apart and mess with it, I should be allowed to.  If I want to rip chips off the board and use them for my own personal projects, I should be allowed to.. period.

As far as XBOX Live:

This is a service provided by MS.  MS wants to make sure its online games are played fairly, and that noone gains an unfair advantage in online games by using modded boxes and being able to modify game files (and, obviously, they want to make sure you BOUGHT the games).  In this respect, when you connect to the service, you have to play by their rules, plain and simple.  If you pay for the service, and you break the rules, they can and WILL ban you.

MS can and will check for: larger hard drives than stock, modded xboxes, etc.

If you're using a gamertag that has been associated with a modded xbox, it looks like they'll let you recover it if you play nice and use an unmodded xbox to play on Live with.  If you mess up again, it looks like they ban you, and permanently.


Instead of bitching and moaning and spending countless hours trying to figure out how to get around the system, why not use a HD splitter or an Xtender mod with your ORIGINAL, UNMODDED HARD DRIVE FROM THE BEGINNING?!?! I know it's too late for many people NOW, but there really should be a guide for newbies that says the following:

When modding your xbox, get a new hard drive, get a mod that allows multiple hard drives (splitter cables/xtender mod).  Back up your original hard drive.  Install new hard drive.   ONLY USE YOUR ORIGINAL FOR ORIGINAL GAMES.  Do everything else with your new hard drive.

Unfortunately, it looks like if you've screwed up already, you may be shit out of luck.  Solution:  Go buy a new xbox.  Yeah it sucks, but I'm sure you can find a used on in your local newspaper for like $70.  Then, you'll have one you can use only for mods, and one you can use for live.  I don't know how much people are paying for extra EEPROMS, but I'm hearing people who have done it 7 or 8 times.   Even iff EEPROMS are going for $10 a piece, you could have already bought another used xbox by now.  Either way, you're going to have to spend a little extra $$ to get what you want.  

Life sucks, get a helmet.

--NipsMG
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« Reply #96 on: October 22, 2004, 08:56:00 AM »

QUOTE (miggidy @ Oct 22 2004, 03:24 PM)
Did I just read that correctly?
You were playing online with your chip on?

If I have time tomorrow, this is what I'm going to do....
I'm going to install a new HDD with a new eeprom and I'll be logging on with the same gamertag.
This seems to be working for other people, so lets see if it works for me.
I'll keep you guys posted....

Yes ready it right, but no I was not playing on live nor attempted to.
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ZildjianKX

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« Reply #97 on: October 22, 2004, 09:14:00 AM »

I wonder if any of the people who got banned modified their save games for the actual games they play on live...
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« Reply #98 on: October 22, 2004, 04:22:00 PM »

I run a modding shop in Canada, and alot of my machines I modded
are coming back BANNED, and some are soft-modded and others
have the TSOP with a switch and even others have the fancy shit
like Xenium ICE, one with X3, etc.

The common factor in all the BANNED machines is the use of
homebrew software. Even see a machine with no files changed
on the C: drive, that was BANNED.

My theory is XBOX live new updates are BANNING machines with
"invalid" SAVE entrys on the E: drive, even from PAL games or
unreleased games or "HOMEBREW" software like DVD2XBOX, UnleashX, etc.

Any thoughts on this theory?
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southbark

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« Reply #99 on: October 22, 2004, 04:37:00 PM »

QUOTE (garyopa @ Oct 22 2004, 04:25 PM)
The common factor in all the BANNED machines is the use of
homebrew software. Even see a machine with no files changed
on the C: drive, that was BANNED.

My theory is XBOX live new updates are BANNING machines with
"invalid" SAVE entrys on the E: drive, even from PAL games or
unreleased games or "HOMEBREW" software like DVD2XBOX, UnleashX, etc.

Any thoughts on this theory?

Here we go more speculation  sleeping.gif  sleeping.gif

There are tons of people with all this same stuff on there drives and have not been banned.If they were this site would go down from the flooding .No one knows and until we here from someone workig at M$ we will never know
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« Reply #100 on: October 25, 2004, 01:54:00 PM »

QUOTE (homerboy @ Oct 25 2004, 12:16 PM)
I'm just weary of buying a new xbox, loging in with old gamer tag and getting THAT machine banned. I think Ill call MS today and just ask them

Really shouldnt be a problem.  I have been borrowing a neighbors xbox to play FIFA online while I wait for my new xbox to ship (new bundle) and havn't had any problems playing online.  I had been banned many times previously and have no problem playing online w/my friends (unmodded) xbox smile.gif
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« Reply #101 on: October 25, 2004, 02:09:00 PM »

QUOTE (Mekapo @ Oct 25 2004, 09:57 PM)
Really shouldnt be a problem.  I have been borrowing a neighbors xbox to play FIFA online while I wait for my new xbox to ship (new bundle) and havn't had any problems playing online.  I had been banned many times previously and have no problem playing online w/my friends (unmodded) xbox smile.gif

Excellent
Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #102 on: October 25, 2004, 06:52:00 PM »

Ok the big question I guess I have about all this is are people who have modchips but have never been banned before and never changed there eeprom being banned from XBL? I have been playing online every day includeing today with out any problems. But I am now fearfull of going back online if im gonna get popped for having a upgraded HDD.

EDIT: I have a v1.0 xbox, evox is the default dash but i allso have avalunch, xecuter 2.3, 120 gig maxtor
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« Reply #103 on: October 25, 2004, 09:23:00 PM »

Is it safe to say that if I have a xbox...


1. I have a brand new out of the box xbox
2. where the only modification was a modchip
3. I unplug the network cable before booting to the modchip to play backups.
4. when I do play xbox live, I am using the MS dash

will this keep me from getting banned? or will things such as save games from H2 or prereleased games get me banned?

thanks!
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« Reply #104 on: October 25, 2004, 11:19:00 PM »

QUOTE (sludem @ Oct 22 2004, 04:17 AM)
blah enough with the halo crap my friend didnt even touch halo and he got banned.could they have banned him for knowing halo was on the internet he didnt  download it so it never touched his xbox and he was still banned so they are not checking your xbox for halo and then banning you.

Actually, your logic is faulty. That just proves that they aren't only banning people for having/playing H2.

Another theory is that they are banning people for cheating on Project Gotham 2 by editing their downloaded cars, easy to check, just do a CRC checksum on the downloaded content!

I also believe people who have had their boxes banned in the past and now have reflashed their eeproms are also getting rebanned.
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