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[Mekapo]

QUOTE (Gumba @ Oct 25 2004, 10:22 PM)

Actually, your logic is faulty. That just proves that they aren't only banning people for having/playing H2. Another theory is that they are banning people for cheating on Project Gotham 2 by editing their downloaded cars, easy to check, just do a CRC checksum on the downloaded content! I also believe people who have had their boxes banned in the past and now have reflashed their eeproms are also getting rebanned.

This is my general feeling as well.  I've had my eeprom banned before and played H2 and got banned.  My friend who also had his eeprom banned once and didn't play H2 was banned as well.

[deacon187]

it has to be the eeprom, HDD, or some other number on something else in the box, maybe the video chip or something do they have id's as well, how many people upgraded there ram, can live detect that, i dont see why they couldnt, ive never been banned, only once and i did it on purpose to test cause i only had 17 days left on a 2 month trial after M$ couldnt renew my first live account cause i cancelled the credit card i started it with, i had about 3 1/2 months free service, then got cut off so i used a 2 month trial,

after that i got a new box used it for live only for like 8 months, just modded it 3 weeks ago and tossed in 160gig, played tons of madden and nba live  battle front, all on live, and have a save of some wierd french game. just looged into topspin now looking for a game, no problems at all

there has to be some other id # that is being matched along with the eeprom

whether it be the cpu or gpu who knows, would that be possible ?

[nfs911]

If I can sign up for xbox live, like it says enter address and credit card #, could I be banned, or would a message pop up and say modifed console before all of that?

[xprimex]

QUOTE (knodi @ Oct 18 2004, 06:31 PM)

sakuraix says he changed the back to the stock Harddrive and he still got banned. This is strange. What are they looking at the cache drives? I this all started when I switched from EvoX to Avalaunch. I removed Avalaunch and went back to EvoX. Now I wait and see if I get banned again or not.

you can't use evox to get on live, you have to be on the original dash with MS bios.

[dgyver]

ok heres my 2 cents i took my brand new xbox put in a smartxx ver2 running a 160 gig seagate i backed up my eprom and hard drive i loaded a unbaned eprom turned everything on to get myself banned it took about three days but im banned now i put the org harddrive back in and stock eprom and took out the mod chip has been working for two weeks or so now i put the mod back in and the hard drive reformatted it and im still running so i think its not the hard drives number but whats on the hard drive

[Orionn]

Just throwing in an idea: how did those getting banned lock your HDD? Perhaps the locking key algorithm was slightly different to MS's.
eg. did you lock using Evox? ConfigMagic? Other?
Feel free to shoot me down if I'm talking crazy.

[lowsodium]

It is so obvious that they are banning red eject light mods.  I mean come on....if you changed a stop light from green to red, wouldn't you go to jail?  If anyone refutes my findings, go change a stoplights light and I will see you back on the boards in a few months.

[Killa420]

Lol

[Penfoldian]

QUOTE (lowsodium @ Oct 27 2004, 06:31 PM)

It is so obvious that they are banning red eject light mods.  I mean come on....if you changed a stop light from green to red, wouldn't you go to jail?  If anyone refutes my findings, go change a stoplights light and I will see you back on the boards in a few months.

What is he on about?

[Veryn]

hey just wondering if there is anyway i can place all my none stock files from my C:/  to my F:/  

i just got rid of my avalauch files and just keeping evox.  is there a way to do the file switch and still run slayers well?

[bagofice]

I reckon though still if you have just got a new mod, never had one, never been banned, and only play live with it off - you should be alright.

[quicksilv]

yeah i think so too.. atleast i hope so.

anyway, i just read some info i didn't know before : switched tsops ARE NOT safe. I always thought they were, but they aren't and MS can also use that to find a modded xbox. there is a doc on xbox-linux describing the problem

another thing i didn't know before, it appears the xbox has a hidden partition (5MB). I don't think that MS is using that, but they COULD easily flag your xbox as modded when you have the mod on (but are not using xbox live) when you enter the ms dash to manage your game save/audio tracks. They could place a flag on that partition, and no matter what we do we wouldn't be able to do anything about it. Next time when you go onto live, they might check the hidden partition for that flag.

something else i didn't know: it seems that certain games phone home without you knowing about it. Splinter cell 1 is a good example, it connects to MS without you even selecting to visit xbox live (SC1 is live enabled only). This is really dangerous as people who use a modchip and have there xbox connected to their router are bound to have send information 'back home'. Depending wether it also sends out the hash of your bios MS could have been building a really nice database full of xboxes that are flagged as modded. Not saying they did anything with that information, but it is alarming to know that titles connect to xboxlive without your consent.. see http://www.xbox-linux.org/Contents documenation page for more information.

MS has way to many ways to detect a modded box. If they really want to they could ban us all, i guess it's more wether they want to (as we still BUY xbox live games) and wether they can legally get away with it. But when people start to cheat even more on live they will do so as one of the strong points of xbox live is that it is relatively free of cheaters compared to PC online at least.. just my 2cents

[mattme121]

Hey i have had some weird experiences on live lately. The other day i en ton with my chip off and hard drive locked. I play rainbow six for a bit then it crashed. Aand then it went downhill from there. I couldnt boot my xbox at all. i tried cold boot,boot with disc in drive, chip on cold boot. Everything. Then all of a sudden it worked after 20 attempts. So i went back on live and the same thing happen. I got fed up and went to play fable, then a knock at a door. The man from NTL had turned up with my new xbox. So i plugged it in and played rianbow six again. No problem. It could just be my box(i had installed slayers lately and it worked before slayers but i think that was before the new measures) or it could be some new system they are using. Like a warning.

[garyopa]

A truly switched TSOP is not a problem as only one bank is visible at a time
your switches must be hooked up with both 3.3v and GND on each side of
the two lines. Not the old way with using just GND.

I think the FLAGGING of infomation in the 5 megabyte DISK CONFIG AREA
is where the problem is. As this is also where your XBOX LIVE account is
stored. Remember the LIVE file is NOT A XBOX FILE, and you can store up
to 7 accounts on the HARD DRIVE without taking up any hard drive space,
so they must be STORED in the 5MB area along with the parition table, etc.

I think users when geting banned should change the EEPROM and totally
REFORMAT the hard drive maybe put the drive in a PC and use a ZEROING
program to security wipe the drive. Remember also all HDD's have a EXTRA
cyclinder at the end of the drive for TESTING purpose, which can contain
information.

Personally I have my LIVE account since the start of the XBOX LIVE system
and I have NEVER stored it on a hard drive, and kept it on a original XBOX
memory card, and as such have used it on hundreds of XBOX machines
some with larger HDD's and some with switched TSOP's and some with
modchips, etc. and I have NEVER had a problem or have been banned.

[digitalxtasy]