Topic: Xecuter Fusion is Coming... (Read 1529 times)

juggahax0r · « **Reply #75 on:** March 08, 2012, 09:11:00 PM »

QUOTE(ravendrow @ Mar 5 2012, 07:34 PM)

if the demon is required it will probably be because they have used a cygnos style SMC kinda like the Pre XBR days.. i can't wait to see it but it should not be locked to the demon and even if it is just give the people some time Freeboot used to be cygnos only too and look what happened they released a single nand option and bam no more cygnos chips in production.

They have already made it pretty clear it won't be locked to the demon .... The Cygnos SMC was for the Jtag hack specifically, because the Cygnos and likewise the Demon was/is capable of handling the Jtag commands, instead of the 360 onboard SMC.

They have never locked anything to their products, not even in the Xbox 1 days , the Xecuter BIOS could be run on any modchip , and on certain boxes on the onboard TSOP.

I'm only stating facts , I can't say I am happy about cOz taking his work private , hopefully Team-X can keep up with the updates , the video only shows version 13604 if I remember correctly. We shall see how it all turns out soon.

Haygar · « **Reply #76 on:** March 09, 2012, 06:27:00 PM »

QUOTE(TAz00 @ Mar 4 2012, 04:18 AM)

The reason for that is, if I remember correctly, that they told microsoft about the exploit first.
To let them patch the system, before it was released publicly.

Someone should've shot that little softcock from running to M$

. Things would probably have advanced sooo much more quickly from then.

That said....free60 did put the word out there that people should sit and wait when the storm was brewing and the jtag hack was about to become a reality for all to have....but most blindly went ahead and updated. Even friends I warned did the same, I'm glad I was not amongst that group.

OggyUK · « **Reply #77 on:** March 09, 2012, 06:50:00 PM »

That softcock indirectly plays a part in every exploit of the kernel we've seen to date.

You can not criticise a hacker for telling them of their flaws.

Some people reverse engineer because they can, not for any specific gain other than a personal motive, for the challenge.

Whereas some do it for gain, financial and egoistical.

juggahax0r · « **Reply #78 on:** March 09, 2012, 07:07:00 PM »

QUOTE(OggyUK @ Mar 9 2012, 08:50 PM)

That softcock indirectly plays a part in every exploit of the kernel we've seen to date.

You can not criticise a hacker for telling them of their flaws.

Some people reverse engineer because they can, not for any specific gain other than a personal motive, for the challenge.

Whereas some do it for gain, financial and egoistical.

+1

Yup ... And he could also have decided to ONLY share it with M$ , but he didn't , he shared it with everyone... And everyone saw what happened to failoverflow and geohot for cracking the PS3 right? It was uncharted territory, he didn't know MS wasn't going to sue his pants off , he actually excepted that they might.

We are of course talking about tmbinc , if he hadn't left the scene it actually would have advanced a lot more than it did after he left .... There was a dry spell when he left, until people started putting out XDK software , which is why he left ...

But bottomline he was there for a lot more than just finding and releasing the exploits, he was also active on the XBH forums sharing and absorbing information .... He always wanted to remain legal , and with libxenon only everything was fine ... I'm not going to rant a bunch , but I don't like people talking sh*t about tmbinc , without him there would be no exploits , he did more than find the HV exploit , he also got the 1bl , without which none of this would have been possible, and he built the libxenon toolchain.

QUOTE(Haygar @ Mar 9 2012, 08:54 PM)

Yes, and I suppose for that I indirectly thank him but all of this is a side-effect from what his mission was.......probably personal gain and also, I suppose I cannot blame him (if I was him)

My last word here: Can anyone confirm that just the existing single nand will be all that is required (aside from glitch chips for rgh's)?

They have said plenty of times it will not be locked to the Demon , what more do you want , they themselves have said that. It's a hacked kernel how would you expect them to lock it their chip? It wouldn't then be able to run on the console anyway. The only "lock" on the Cygnos was the SMC , you can change that , and then it runs on the console using the onboard SMC for Jtag writes, RGH has nothing to with Jtag , only the patches that make it reboot indefinitely , which are just patches to the SMC file , the Cygnos uses an onboard controller to do Jtag writing for the Jtag hack , it's not really a lock....

The only reasons you would want a Demon are A. you want to be able to use LIVE still unhacked or B. You develop and want to have 2 nands for different hacked builds. C. Your Xbox has a blown SPI port and you can't use a NandX or other USB flasher to flash it anymore. None of that would cause them to lock it , and as I have said , they have already said no Fusion will not be locked the the Demon , it's just a replacement ala freeBOOT/Xebuild etc .....

guily666 · « **Reply #79 on:** March 11, 2012, 11:24:00 AM »

Will it need a new chip for making the RGH 2.0???

I want to J-tag my xbox360, but should I J-tag it now and then can I use this new coming Dashboard with full 100% functionality. Or will it require a new chip from them (for the RGH2.0)?

Thank you!
Keep Cool

boflc · « **Reply #80 on:** March 11, 2012, 03:25:00 PM »

it will not require particular hardware. fusion is a kernel.

unless you have a box with a vulnerable CB, you can't 'j-tag' it. you'd be glitching the box with an external cpld, like the digilent c-mod and the team-xecuter coolrunner.

sinclairuser · « **Reply #81 on:** March 13, 2012, 07:15:00 PM »

its not a custom kernel its a modified dev kernel
i am interested though id love to make the start up swoosh blue or even multi coloured like that sample on you tube
as for xbmc and the like maybe but a native port wont happen no matter how much we crow about
it what we need is a hd display driver then the live xbmc could be used a far more realistic route imo

guily666 · « **Reply #82 on:** March 16, 2012, 02:46:00 PM »

QUOTE(boflc @ Mar 11 2012, 09:25 PM)

it will not require particular hardware. fusion is a kernel.

unless you have a box with a vulnerable CB, you can't 'j-tag' it. you'd be glitching the box with an external cpld, like the digilent c-mod and the team-xecuter coolrunner.

So it can just simply be aplied to any current J-tag with any kind of chip no matter which one?

And about RGH2.0 what is it? (Will it need a new kind of chip?)

ps: I wanted to get J-tag on my 360, but if a new and better chip is coming I will wait 4 it instead of using the ones that are out there. (So is any new better chip coming soon or should I J-tag mine right now?) I WISH XBMC WOULD BE PORTED TO 360...
Keep Cool

Haygar · « **Reply #83 on:** May 09, 2012, 02:16:00 AM »

And there you have it like I was asking:

Quote from Team Xecuter:

Features of Xecuter Fusion as of v1.0.6

Requirements:
RGH/RGH2 Console (JTAG Not Supported)

Edit: I hope this is only because of the beta testing at this point, I don't wanna give up my jtag yet.

avineyard · « **Reply #84 on:** May 09, 2012, 07:57:00 PM »

I've been fighting with the choice between xk3y and wasabi to decide what way I wanted to go ... guess I'll wait and see what this is all about.

Haygar · « **Reply #85 on:** May 09, 2012, 11:02:00 PM »

QUOTE(Haygar @ May 9 2012, 06:16 PM)

Requirements:
RGH/RGH2 Console (JTAG Not Supported)

Edit: I hope this is only because of the beta testing at this point, I don't wanna give up my jtag yet.

Nope, apparently "RGH is the future of console modding" - Translated "Fusion for JTAG will not sell our product ie. coolrunners/demon"

steveo1978 · « **Reply #86 on:** May 10, 2012, 12:44:00 AM »

QUOTE(Haygar @ May 10 2012, 12:02 AM)

Nope, apparently "RGH is the future of console modding" - Translated "Fusion for JTAG will not sell our product ie. coolrunners/demon"

You should read more of the thread before you make comments like that.

Haygar · « **Reply #87 on:** May 10, 2012, 05:30:00 AM »

QUOTE(steveo1978 @ May 10 2012, 04:44 PM)

You should read more of the thread before you make comments like that.

If you're talking about this thread, I have. But I'm talking about what is being said over at Team Xecuter and "For now it's RGH only as thats where the future of homebrew is."

Forget about the early adopters who played it safe with updates, we're a minority now.

steveo1978 · « **Reply #88 on:** May 10, 2012, 11:59:00 AM »

QUOTE(Haygar @ May 10 2012, 06:30 AM)

If you're talking about this thread, I have. But I'm talking about what is being said over at Team Xecuter and "For now it's RGH only as thats where the future of homebrew is."

Forget about the early adopters who played it safe with updates, we're a minority now.

yeah I am referring to the same thread as you and actually the same post. Where Ubergeek said

QUOTE

Probably not. JTAG can't work with some of the features. With JTAG you;d have to load a hell of a lot more from HDD and it can be unstable. For now it's RGH only as thats where the future of homebrew is.

Haygar · « **Reply #89 on:** May 11, 2012, 01:47:00 AM »

I guess I can appreciate that.

So what does that mean for jtag owners who don't necessarily want to lose the ability to rollback if ever desired?

Can you build a fusion-based rgh image from a pre-8955 stock image and successfully glitch the console (with the required hardware of course)?

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