Topic: Xecuter CoolRunner Update (Read 441 times)

yardguy00 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 13, 2011, 11:28:00 AM »

sorry for the noob question here.. but is this chip all I need?
Or do I need to use this in conjunction with something else, like a nandflashy something or other.
thanks

BoNg420 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 13, 2011, 11:56:00 AM »

QUOTE(yardguy00 @ Sep 13 2011, 01:28 PM)

sorry for the noob question here.. but is this chip all I need?
Or do I need to use this in conjunction with something else, like a nandflashy something or other.
thanks

You need this and a programmer to read and write to your nand.

juggahax0r · « **Reply #17 on:** September 13, 2011, 12:28:00 PM »

QUOTE(specialguest @ Sep 13 2011, 02:17 PM)

You know i really have serious questions about this hack in general. Applying wierd voltages to a CPU such that it esentially freaks out and runs code differently? And the fact that it only works on 25% of attempts? I just dont consider this to be what I would call a reliable process. It is more like a somewhat predicatable fluke. My real concern has to do with potential damage to the hardware. Who knows what this can do to the related components past the immediate short term...

Are we playing Russian roulette with our hardware?

It's not that it freaks out runs code differently .... They have timed the glitch, they know where these memcmp() functions happen that they want to tap into, and have timed it to glitch in between those functions. It will be much more successful with more testing and refining of the timings. This is still a new method, give it a few more months and the sweet spot will probably be calculated to something very precise, and we will have a normal boot time all the time.

I could see this causing issues if we were driving the pins over the maximum tolerance , but keeping it slow for longer in the boot chain isn't going to cause a hardware failure. As with all things though, it may not be 100% safe, however equating it to Russian Roulette is a little overkill, it's not like one time you power it on it is just going to blow up from being glitched. Chances are just like with the SMC this won't cause any noticable hardware problems.

yardguy00 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 13, 2011, 02:19:00 PM »

QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Sep 13 2011, 05:56 PM)

You need this and a programmer to read and write to your nand.

what is the best/recommended nand programmer? Im looking for one that would support multiple systems... like ps3 aswell.
thanks again

DARKFiB3R · « **Reply #19 on:** September 13, 2011, 02:36:00 PM »

"Booting is now pretty much 100% accurate"

That does not read "100% successful" as that is obviously a given.

They are are referring to an improvement on the the previously stated 25% success rate, where the console will eventually boot, 100% of the time.

I can't take quotes from where else this has been discussed, but that is indeed the claim being made.

I have no reason to believe I am being sucked in. If anything, it would be straight out lied to. And again, I have no reason to believe that, that is the case.

Good marketing or not, love them or hate them (or really don't give a fuck) their products always do what they say in the tin in my experience.

digipimp75 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 13, 2011, 02:47:00 PM »

All the people nit-picking about the boot times (not success ratio) are absolute wankers. People... don't you realize the significance of this hack? Don't you understand that the teams responsible have done what everybody said was impossible? For a few years now, they claimed that there would never be another exploit discovered in the xbox hardware. Guess what...they FOUND ONE. Isn't that enough? Just go with it, enjoy the ride, and STFU about boot times, you non-contributing zeroes!!!

DARKFiB3R · « **Reply #21 on:** September 13, 2011, 03:32:00 PM »

No, it doesn't. That is saying that just because you use a different/faster chip, doesn't mean shit. It's what you do with it that counts.

KingViper · « **Reply #22 on:** September 13, 2011, 03:48:00 PM »

Maybe I'm not clear on how this works, but why is everyone concerned about a 5 minute boot time using the glitch? Is this really necessary for each boot, or just to flash a patched NAND to the console?

juggahax0r · « **Reply #23 on:** September 13, 2011, 05:30:00 PM »

QUOTE(DARKFiB3R @ Sep 13 2011, 05:32 PM)

No, it doesn't. That is saying that just because you use a different/faster chip, doesn't mean shit. It's what you do with it that counts.

If they are sending them out pre-flashed or creating their own .jed files to do the glitch THEN they will be the ones responsible for quicker boot times. The glitch is in the code not the hardware, i suppose maybe a faster chip would be more accurate at timing those timings, but in the end it comes down to when you assert the line and when you de-assert the reset line.

i'm not trying to argue with you fib3r , I somewhat agree with you. I have been using Xecuter products since Xbox 1 days , modchips etc... and have always been mostly satisfied. I think they have made some ridiculous claims, and have mislead people on certain things, but that has only been the last couple years, which tells me management may have changed or something.

All the companies will claim they have the best product, it's how people sell things ... The Xecuter has some nice features for n00bs, I won't need this, but I can see it helping a lot of people out.

I would say if any company in the 'scene' will do well with these products it will obviously be Team-X and Maximus, they are the 2 most well known 'scene' providers. All these unknowns probably won't fair as well, not only do they have no rep here, but they also have to charge more because they don't have the manufacturing capabilities of Maximus or Team-X.

K3thunder · « **Reply #24 on:** September 13, 2011, 09:18:00 PM »

The problem persists, We all want freeboot on our slims yet the way to do it is unknown to the public as of right now.

I could care less about the boot time honestly so long as it boots up into xell.
the ability to use the chip with my nand-x sounds promising enough!

Only thing to do is wait and hope for success..

Theories on how to run homebrew from xell are interesting so how about sharing you're ideas on the process using the glitch chips.

SpikeMage · « **Reply #25 on:** September 13, 2011, 09:20:00 PM »

QUOTE(juggahax0r @ Sep 13 2011, 04:30 PM)

If they are sending them out pre-flashed or creating their own .jed files to do the glitch THEN they will be the ones responsible for quicker boot times. The glitch is in the code not the hardware, i suppose maybe a faster chip would be more accurate at timing those timings, but in the end it comes down to when you assert the line and when you de-assert the reset line.

i'm not trying to argue with you fib3r , I somewhat agree with you. I have been using Xecuter products since Xbox 1 days , modchips etc... and have always been mostly satisfied. I think they have made some ridiculous claims, and have mislead people on certain things, but that has only been the last couple years, which tells me management may have changed or something.

All the companies will claim they have the best product, it's how people sell things ... The Xecuter has some nice features for n00bs, I won't need this, but I can see it helping a lot of people out.

I would say if any company in the 'scene' will do well with these products it will obviously be Team-X and Maximus, they are the 2 most well known 'scene' providers. All these unknowns probably won't fair as well, not only do they have no rep here, but they also have to charge more because they don't have the manufacturing capabilities of Maximus or Team-X.

I am going to buy Xecuter because my first gen products still work. Build quality and lasting support are important to me and Xecuter has always given me that. If at all possible I will avoid dealing with some fly by night dropship operation out of Taiwan or wherever.

Bad_Ad · « **Reply #26 on:** September 14, 2011, 12:22:00 AM »

QUOTE(DARKFiB3R @ Sep 13 2011, 10:32 PM)

No, it doesn't. That is saying that just because you use a different/faster chip, doesn't mean shit. It's what you do with it that counts.

It quite clearly says boot time is not controlled by the glitch board. If its not controlled by the glitch board, how have they improved it? He was directly replying to someone asking how long the boot time was.

You fail to understand how glitching works and also fail to read what they are ACTUALLY saying - you are just reading what you want to hear.

FoneFreak · « **Reply #27 on:** September 14, 2011, 02:16:00 AM »

NEWBIE QUESTION: Hi guys this is indeed great news ;-), I am new to all this and would like to ask if i glitch the slim and install a glitch board etc (install xell)

Does my 272 drive need to be flashed still or can i leave it untouched stock?, i would like to run games from hd if possible but I know nothing about xell/loaders etc or even if it is possible?

Appreciate any help/information

Thanks

HaloSlayer · « **Reply #28 on:** September 14, 2011, 03:34:00 AM »

Currently the Glitch mod will only boot you into Xell.
Booting into Xell will not allow you to run any Xbox360 games, backups, originals, hard drive installs ...
Xell is mainly to run homebrew and get your CPU/DVD keys.

As for flashing your DVD drive, this has nothing to do with Xell.
You can leave your DVD drive stock, it does not matter.

Hopefully in the future this Glitch Mod will allow for modified dashboards to be booted and at that time may allow you to backup to a Hard Drive like JTAG's do now. But again this is in the future and as always the future is uncertain. If it does happen, no you will not need to flash your DVD drive to be able to backup an original game.

Please people, do some research! The information is there you just have to look for it.

Here is to all the people who work hard to bring these mods/glitches/homebrew to reality!!

Can't wait for the Team-Xecuter chip!

Bad_Ad · « **Reply #29 on:** September 14, 2011, 05:40:00 AM »

QUOTE(Bad_Ad @ Sep 14 2011, 07:22 AM)

It quite clearly says boot time is not controlled by the glitch board. If its not controlled by the glitch board, how have they improved it? He was directly replying to someone asking how long the boot time was.

You fail to understand how glitching works and also fail to read what they are ACTUALLY saying - you are just reading what you want to hear.

Just like to point out (as I cant edit my post) that I know that this post is probably coming across quite aggressive/bitchy - but its unintentional. Probably shouldnt reply in the early AM before breakfast.

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