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[Serious Sam]

QUOTE(majoridiot @ Jun 13 2011, 05:44 AM)

it's a real bugger trying to reply to this thread...  trying hard to decide whether to address the irony or the hypocrisy of most of these posts is just too damn much.

it's no surprise that "developments" in this scene take so long and are so few and far between when all there ever is are people bitching. whether about the speed of
new releases of exploits, technology or methods... or accusations of "greed" for people coming up with ways of allowing you ALL to do what you want to do and then
expecting to make some money from their efforts.

i know i'm an idiot, but what part of "if you don't like playing the "game" with M$ then JUST BUY THE GODDAMN GAMES don't you get?  if you want to be "safe", then play
originals.  if you must play "backups" (or more likely ripped games), then you gotta pay someone to give you that ability.  how difficult is that to understand?

this "solution" will either cost you a little more than the price of ONE GAME or about half the cost- if you have skillz.  if you have no skillz, then yeah... you gotta pay more.

expecting a "free solution" to something that is obviously not an easy thing to immediately overcome (write protected chips) is just asinine. bitching about the price of breaking
the EULA for xbox and live, the DMCA and whatever else- when that is obviously what 90% of you are interested in- shows everyone's true color.  and it aint good.

how much $$ have any of you paid for c4e's CFW and how much will you pay when the new CFW is released?  i'll venture the answer is either nothing or next to nothing.

so now we're on to bitching about people selling "overpriced" boards to allow you to run free CFW that will boot FREE games.  how petty can you be?  really?

the answer is pretty fuckin simple- if you don't like the price of this (or any other "solution") and don't like having to wait for the new CFW- THEN JUST BUY THE FUCKING GAMES
and live life like the rest of the 360 community.  if you must play backups or pirated games, then i'm sorry but it's like the rest of life- eventually you HAVE to pay to play.

in the immortal words of GOB Bluth- "Come on...!"

but that's just one simple-thinking idiot's opinion.  carry on with your bitching and bashing...

We shouldn't even be getting into talking about piracy on these forums. Be careful what you say here

[dradra]

QUOTE(sieco187 @ Jun 13 2011, 10:37 PM)

The PS3 scene went from nothing to a bat out of hell development wise because the exploits were open source. On the other hand this lead to Sony quickly putting an end to future custom firmware releases. While there is still alot of development for the 3.55 and below custom firmwares there is currently no way for devs to exploit and use newer firmwares like 3.56, 3.60, or the newest 3.65.

Actually the PS3 root key was broken, everything else is following the chain of trust of that key. So every other firmware could be teorically broken, following that chain of trust....
Developers are simply afraid of Sony retaliation.

[sieco187]

Yes that is correct but the point I was making is that since the Key was publicly available it was quickly changed thus slowing down the process of making newer custom firmwares. Had it been tightley controlled for better or worse the exploit might still be in use for even the most current firmwares.


A little of topic but I hope Sony learned that suing and attempting to sue many others including some of their customers is not in their best interest....and our join dates are the exact same.

[sudeki300]

this is getting a bit silly now, asking people to pay $75 dollars on a pcb board and still pay for furthur work (for those that do not have the tools / know how to flash) i asking much. if you borught a board and then asked someone to flash the drive for you, i'm sure you could have brought a second hand console pre-flashed for alot less cheaper. also what is the the $ to £ conversion gonna be, cause with things like this is never works out right and us people in europe usually get it the hardest. it seems to me that c4eva and team xecuter are trying to control the entire monopoly on this console, i know there are alot of his faithful followers on here and i will probably flamed to hell but this is my opinion. just looks like team xecuter has got ther hooks in and won't let go on the cash cow which is c4eva. is this really the best way to flash a iteon DG-16D4S 0225/0401, or is it the best way to flash the drive for you to sell loads of your product and make money.......................sudeki300

[dradra]

QUOTE(sieco187 @ Jun 13 2011, 11:12 PM)

Yes that is correct but the point I was making is that since the Key was publicly available it was quickly changed thus slowing down the process of making newer custom firmwares. Had it been tightley controlled for better or worse the exploit might still be in use for even the most current firmwares.
A little of topic but I hope Sony learned that suing and attempting to sue many others including some of their customers is not in their best interest....and our join dates are the exact same.

You're probably my lost astral twin

Hmm. Coding by obscurity can always be reversed.

MS can hire a lots of professionals than in little time will give them the changes C4Eva did to their firmware. It
s not a MS limitation to get those changes fast. Open Source or not.

They're probably care enough to make their 3rd party happy but not a lot more.

[aubrey_76]

QUOTE(sieco187 @ Jun 13 2011, 05:12 PM)

Yes that is correct but the point I was making is that since the Key was publicly available it was quickly changed thus slowing down the process of making newer custom firmwares. Had it been tightley controlled for better or worse the exploit might still be in use for even the most current firmwares.
A little of topic but I hope Sony learned that suing and attempting to sue many others including some of their customers is not in their best interest....and our join dates are the exact same.

You have summed it up the best it can be in your posts. The people who know the skills and dedication it takes to mod should be compensated for their hard work. Real modders have given up valuable time to learn the basics of computer programming:

Computer Programming I and II
Assembly Language Programming
Discrete Structures
Calculus II
Unix
Programming Languages
Data Structure and Algorithims
Computer Architecture
Software Engineering
Computer Security
Info Storage and Retrieval
Theory of Computation
Compiler Designs
and many more hours and YEARS that go into the dedication of learning how to do what these people are doing.

Whether they have completed the courses and paid the price for a Bachelors or Masters degree in the field of Computer Science or they are self taught, they deserve monetary compensation for their hard work. Do you think that the talented "modders" are doing all this hard work just to simply create a pedagogical environment for people who only want handouts???  The median salary for a Computer Scientist is around $95,000 a year so why on FUCKING EARTH WOULD THEY DO THIS FOR FREE........

I myself think that this price is TOO LOW, and they should charge nothing less than $100. This will weed out the ungrateful people that have no comprehension of the term "Research and Development." Then those same ungrateful people can go back to bitching that the Government Cheese this month tastes like shit.....


.....2 cents

[dradra]

C4eva has a proved record, and it deserves any money he can get.

But there is actually a lot of people who is doing what C4Eva is doing, only for the prestige and not the money, you can find them in Groups like Reloaded, Razor1911, Core, etc. they're crackers and master of reverse engineering. Money is not always the motivation behind them. Prestige is.

[hondasr]

QUOTE(ModchipCentral.com @ Jun 13 2011, 06:47 PM)

QUOTED FOR THE TRUTH!

It had to be said.  No matter what the price of anything is, people always bitch.  You're playing backup games for next to nothing compared to if you were to buy the actual games.

MT1335W1 my chinesse suplier offer me this today, i cant believe. Is not released my Team Xecuter yet and the chinnese are selling them and cheaper.

[ddsdavey]

QUOTE(sieco187 @ Jun 12 2011, 02:43 AM)

Damn I was hoping for a pro madders solution that is similar to or a little more complex to the MRA method

No offence but if this is beyond you then you are not pro and MRA wtf,its as hard as a school art project!
Far to many people advrtising themselves as "pro modders" simply cause they flash all drives and did the odd MRA or Jtag.
This will seperate us finally

[sudeki300]

does anyone have a ballpark figure on how much it would cose to provide the unlock kit service in the uk. juts want to get an idea and which way to go..............................sudeki300

[sas83]

Can anybody tell ?.... i will need MT1335WE chip to unlock 0225???

[dradra]

QUOTE(aubrey_76 @ Jun 14 2011, 07:17 AM)

External motivations or factors exists for extrinsic benefits (eg, better jobs, career advancements, job opportunities, etc.) ..... these extrinsic benefits are monetary compensation..... All hackers and modders fit this model regardless of their personal claims of providing the world a moral place of "free information" (This is the best tautology to ever go viral....)

Everyone has an ulterior motive......its just that some are more open about it....

Seems you talk about yourself...  Also you seems to put hackers and modders in the same sack.

Boosting egos dosn't have extrinsic benefits in a form of monetary compensation.

[shtewps]

QUOTE(dradra @ Jun 14 2011, 10:54 AM)

Boosting egos dosn't have extrinsic benefits in a form of monetary compensation.

+1

(unless it results in a spike of self-confidence which leads you to find a better job)

[Reaper527]

QUOTE(aubrey_76 @ Jun 14 2011, 12:02 AM)

Real modders have given up valuable time to learn the basics of computer programming:

Computer Programming I and II
Assembly Language Programming
Discrete Structures
Calculus II
Unix
Programming Languages
Data Structure and Algorithims
Computer Architecture
Software Engineering
Computer Security
Info Storage and Retrieval
Theory of Computation
Compiler Designs
and many more hours and YEARS that go into the dedication of learning how to do what these people are doing.

and thats just for a CS undergrad degree, aka 4 years of theory with no practical experience. (and you forgot probability/stats, another tough but necessary math class)

[mat1c]

taken from the tx website:

Now that production is fully underway of the newly designed DG-16D4S PCB we have not only been able to reduce our production costs due to a larger than expected volume of wholesale orders, but we have also closed a deal to source a great amount of very difficult to find parts at a greatly reduced priced.

Our policy is always to be as competitive as possible, and these new savings will be reflected in the RRP and in the wholesale prices.

We should reiterate that this is not a simple copy of the DG-16D4S board, but a custom made version with a new chipset (and not just a single IC change), and it will be completely solderless – the install will simply be a cut and clip design.

Also note that if you are using a 9504 drive (if you are lucky enough to find a non-fake version) that the drive’s MT controller can be locked at ANY time via cdb commands. This is non reversible and is not a scare tactic, it is a fact. The custom DG-16D4S PCB has a manual write protect enable / disable switch so YOU are in control. You simply disable WP, Flash the drive, Enable WP and you are done.

We have tested the board on 9504, 0225 and 0401 consoles and they are working perfectly – all on Live with no problems whatsoever.

So, the first custom designed Liteon DG-16D4S Unlocked Replacement PCB now has an RRP of just $59.95.

The Pro Installers Kit which is the main IC and also the add-on circuit for write protect enable / disable etc is still available for an RRP of $19.99 and we are told by most major modders that they will be looking to charge around $30-$40 to install this for you if you can’t do it yourself.

We will post actual product images in the next week or so.

There are also several major new products to announce very soon – July will be a busy month indeed