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Maximus 360Lizard Standalone Mode Preview Posted by XanTium | April 23 23:39 EST | News Category: Xbox360

From 360lizard.com: We are proud to announce a sneak preview of the 360 Lizard Standalone Mode. This is truly the results of a long development and research road and will serve to set the difference against other tools wanting to be considered as competitors. This update will be available for beta testing shortly then in a few days we will release to the public. The battery pack shown on the video is a prototype; the final version is near completion and we will also give out simple schematic for it for DIY (do it yourself) Kit. Many thanks to the many beta testers who will be very busy testing this new gecko OS. Official Site: http://www.360lizard.com

[klbarnes1]

Man, I can't decide if I made the right call with buying the X360 USB Pro? Maybe I should have bought the Lizard.  What do you guys think?  I love my 360 Pro and although I've only used it once it was great.  Maybe I should buy the lizard just to have both?  Do you think that would be beneficial in any way.  I don't really have the $ to buy another one but man do I love these little tools.  

[Redx508]

QUOTE(klbarnes1 @ Apr 24 2011, 12:46 AM)

Man, I can't decide if I made the right call with buying the X360 USB Pro? Maybe I should have bought the Lizard.  What do you guys think?  I love my 360 Pro and although I've only used it once it was great.  Maybe I should buy the lizard just to have both?  Do you think that would be beneficial in any way.  I don't really have the $ to buy another one but man do I love these little tools.  

Keep the X360 USB Pro

[juggahax0r]

I try my best not to troll ... but seriously what is the deal with this thing? It is way overpriced , and it can't be truly standalone , some form of power is required for the power dongle for the drive. Typically this is done with a PC power supply ,  so either you have to have a separate PSU from a PC or you have to use your PC still too power the drive.  It's still a cool concept I will admit , just not at that price tag.

 I'm glad you are willing to release the schematic for it, maybe we will see some neat DIY versions. The retail price is a bit much though... just sayin.

[deilzfcjk]

Letsmod answer your damn phone. I called you since 9pm . I wanna beta test this shitt out. I need the battery connector kit when it's final design is out. I like all the manufacturered stuff for some reason. My kit is complete now. I don't want no stinking homemade(although if you want to DIY it also nice) I just don't have time for it.  Awesome Maximus once again. Damn I am glad i have my lizard(i don't care how much it is if I can flash 3-5 customers consoles it pays itself off.........hands down .....arghhhhh. this is killin me. I have customers lined up with installs. I need want to test this out. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I will blow the socks off my customers they see this in action. I can use my sdcard for something other than rooting my droid. lol. I love this stuff.

edit: I just now noticed maximus throwing the apple iphone 4 box away with a flick of the wrist as a real hardass that he is. I met him in person, and I must say, i didn't expect that attitude. ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This post has been edited by deilzfcjk: Apr 24 2011, 08:55 AM

[JackintheXbox]

QUOTE(juggahax0r @ Apr 24 2011, 02:59 AM)

I try my best not to troll ... but seriously what is the deal with this thing? It is way overpriced , and it can't be truly standalone , some form of power is required for the power dongle for the drive. Typically this is done with a PC power supply ,  so either you have to have a separate PSU from a PC or you have to use your PC still too power the drive.  It's still a cool concept I will admit , just not at that price tag.

 I'm glad you are willing to release the schematic for it, maybe we will see some neat DIY versions. The retail price is a bit much though... just sayin.

http://www.dangerden.com/store/images/D/psu-molex.jpg
Neat and easy. Allready using it. costs abou 15$
And they are releasing the diy for battery back. But looking how simple it is i guess its 5v and + and - wire. If id open the lizard i would figure it out myself.

I just wish the lizard would have the power tongle built in and you would just power it with the Molex PSU and you could power the drive with lizard. And allso the power togle button SHOULD be on lizard. That would make this thing more than perfect.

And i would like to know details about the SD card. How big sd card should we use.... and looking at the video we do not have many slots... Or what?

Anyway. Best tool i have ever owned for flashing

[TrevG0]

From #fw

QUOTE

Apr 07 04:50:02 <ArabMoney>   Thanx K3rn3l , im Ip banned at #x360usb so i cant get in for info
Apr 07 04:50:12 <@k3rn3l>   and there is probably a reason for that
Apr 07 04:50:25 <boakun>   haha
Apr 07 04:50:43 <ozzman280>   <@k3rn3l> you helpp develop??
Apr 07 04:51:09 <NoFelonie>   new x360usb app?
Apr 07 04:51:12 <@k3rn3l>   I'm Xecuter
Apr 07 04:51:18 <@k3rn3l>   i do a bit
Apr 07 04:51:26 <Lazer>   thanks for all the great work!
Apr 07 04:51:29 <Lazer>   much appreciated
Apr 07 04:51:30 <ozzman280>   well thx for what you guys do
Apr 07 04:51:45 <NoFelonie>   xecuter products are streamlined
Apr 07 04:51:48 <@k3rn3l>   NoFelonie - yes X360USB doesn't just do DVD drives ya know
Apr 07 04:51:48 <NoFelonie>   great stuff man
Apr 07 04:51:59 <ozzman280>   i know you here alot of kids b*tchin on here but work is appreciated!
Apr 07 04:52:02 <@k3rn3l>   so now we are showing off the new stuff it can do
Apr 07 04:52:15 <NoFelonie>   nice k3rn3l
Apr 07 04:52:29 <NoFelonie>   still havent unboaxed my usbpro
Apr 07 04:52:33 <NoFelonie>   unboxed
Apr 07 04:52:38 <ozzman280>   what?
Apr 07 04:52:41 <@k3rn3l>   kids bitchin doesnt bother me - it's 0.00000001% of my business and I love IRC cus i simply tell them to fuck off and effects me not one bit.
Apr 07 04:52:44 <ozzman280>   cant wait for mine!
Apr 07 04:53:04 <redeath>   i got some 360lizards
Apr 07 04:53:08 <@k3rn3l>   lol
Apr 07 04:53:16 <redeath>   and we introduce stand alone shortly
Apr 07 04:53:23 <@k3rn3l>   ssuuurre
Apr 07 04:53:28 <redeath>   with some hi--- suprises
Apr 07 04:53:32 <NoFelonie>   k3rn3l least usb does what it says and then some it didnt say right off,unlike soooooooome products that dont even do what they say it can
Apr 07 04:53:32 <NoFelonie>   
Apr 07 04:53:34 <@k3rn3l>   lol sure
Apr 07 04:53:35 <ozzman280>   <@k3rn3l>++++respect
Apr 07 04:53:45 <@k3rn3l>   i bet you have some. i keep running out of my gear
Apr 07 04:53:54 <redeath>   you too
Apr 07 04:53:57 <redeath>   nice work
Apr 07 04:54:10 <@k3rn3l>   if the lizard can do a 9504 standalone in less than 30 minutes i'll give you $10,000 cash.
Apr 07 04:54:18 <redeath>   realy
Apr 07 04:54:20 <@k3rn3l>   or standalone EVER
Apr 07 04:54:23 <NoFelonie>   30 minutes?
Apr 07 04:54:24 <NoFelonie>   wtf
Apr 07 04:54:25 <NoFelonie>   lol
Apr 07 04:54:26 <redeath>   can i quote you on this
Apr 07 04:54:35 <@k3rn3l>   you do know lizard as it is cant do the 9504 fw dont you ?
Apr 07 04:54:36 <redeath>   let me save the log one sec
Apr 07 04:54:40 <@k3rn3l>   you'll see
Apr 07 04:54:46 <ArabMoney>   good luck with those lizards dont let them collect to much dust
Apr 07 04:54:50 <@k3rn3l>   no need to sve any logs - its a txt file. You have my word.
Apr 07 04:54:55 <redeath>   you too will lern a lessen
Apr 07 04:54:55 <NoFelonie>   i dont buy anything other than tx stuff for modding man
Apr 07 04:55:01 <@k3rn3l>   sure I will *yawn*
Apr 07 04:55:01 <NoFelonie>   end of story
Apr 07 04:55:11 <redeath>   woohooo !!!
Apr 07 04:55:13 <redeath>   jackpot

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Apr 16 21:02:45 <pau_no_cu>   lizard is a very nice solution, once it will be computer free. x360 needs a PC, and even worse a Windows PC
Apr 16 21:02:49 <chongle>   and from my viewing its all i can forumlate an opinion on
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Apr 16 21:03:00 <xboxgeniu>   its too slow
Apr 16 21:03:03 <pau_no_cu>   if it, at least, support MAC OS X or Linux
Apr 16 21:03:06 <liteonfre>   both tools are shit
Apr 16 21:03:08 <+ShagNastY>   standalone i dnt think so
Apr 16 21:03:09 <DeathWish>   the only people I've heard complain about the x360usbpro are people who couldn't be bothered to read enough to update the FW on it when 9504 FW came out
Apr 16 21:03:11 <liteonfre>   pcs the best
Apr 16 21:03:28 -->   cracked ([email protected]) has joined #fw
Apr 16 21:03:39 <xboxgeniu>   agreed shag
Apr 16 21:03:39 -->   Ramzinho ([email protected]) has joined #fw
Apr 16 21:03:41 <chongle>   id agree something you can diy without extra tools is the best
Apr 16 21:03:43 <pau_no_cu>   All computers are personal computers. The system nows defines them
Apr 16 21:03:45 <+ShagNastY>   no chance
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Apr 16 21:04:04 <turny>   pau_no_cu lizard cant do anything without pc,that standalone claim will never happen.
Apr 16 21:04:16 <pau_no_cu>   ShagNastY, I will agree that will need some way to put data on the sd card
Apr 16 21:04:17 <xboxgeniu>   you cant get portio without a pc
Apr 16 21:04:30 <+ShagNastY>   never be realised

From #JungleFlasher

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Feb 20 16:38:35 <--   Carlitosb has kicked sfb12 from #JungleFlasher (<sfb12> Lizard and JF both are good in there own ways (WHAT))
Feb 20 16:38:35 -->   sfb12 ([email protected]) has joined #JungleFlasher
Feb 20 16:38:44 <wwJFnet28>   I do not see anything like that
Feb 20 16:38:44 <sfb12>   Yes they are
Feb 20 16:38:47 <wwJFnet28>   yes?
Feb 20 16:38:49 <@Oggy304>   -ve to gnd
Feb 20 16:38:52 <wwJFnet28>   where?
Feb 20 16:38:56 <@Oggy304>   ground
Feb 20 16:38:57 <@Oggy304>   ffs
Feb 20 16:38:58 <sfb12>   one is portable one is stable
Feb 20 16:39:00 <@Carlitosb>   so is an xbox without an keys
Feb 20 16:39:15 <@Carlitosb>   which is portable?
Feb 20 16:39:19 <sfb12>   lizard
Feb 20 16:39:24 <@Carlitosb>   cause last i checked it needs a pc
Feb 20 16:39:32 <@Carlitosb>   thats a myth that portable shit lol
Feb 20 16:39:48 <sfb12>   next firmware update is supposed to fix standalone mode
Feb 20 16:39:51 <@Carlitosb>   have a better chance on hitachi flashing lol
Feb 20 16:39:56 <@mr-crix>   lol
Feb 20 16:40:15 <sfb12>   thats supposed to be fixed aswell
Feb 20 16:40:19 <@mr-crix>   i have better chance of sex with the mrs

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Feb 20 20:19:57 <@Oggy304>   no lizard talk
Feb 20 20:20:04 <@spudnutz>   ill ban him quick ldn
Feb 20 20:20:09 <@Oggy304>   I dont care that no-one is talking of lizard
Feb 20 20:20:12 <@spudnutz>   hes playin nice
Feb 20 20:20:13 <@Oggy304>   no lizard talk

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Feb 21 23:12:40 <JFapp51>   will da 360lizard work with jf i kno it was alot of talk about it
Feb 21 23:12:42 <@BraveH43>   strip is gnd yes
Feb 21 23:13:02 <VenomX>   hmmmm
Feb 21 23:13:24 <@BraveH43>   take a pic of your wiring
Feb 21 23:13:27 <@turny>   shorter lead if its from xbox will be same length?
Feb 21 23:13:35 <@k3rn3l>   why should it - its "standalone" so doesnt need software
Feb 21 23:13:38 <@k3rn3l>   oh wait...........
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Feb 21 23:13:42 <@BraveH43>   lol
Feb 21 23:14:05 <@k3rn3l>   its amazing the level of ppl who have been duped by that bullshit product
Feb 21 23:14:08 <@k3rn3l>   and you can quote me
Feb 21 23:14:18 <@BraveH43>   flol
Feb 21 23:14:26 <@k3rn3l>   i didnt say AMOUNT of people - as we know the number is tiny
Feb 21 23:14:31 <@k3rn3l>   but the level of intelligence
Feb 21 23:14:34 <@k3rn3l>   its pretty shocking
Feb 21 23:15:04 <JFapp51>   talkin about the lizard

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Apr 01 19:52:05 <@k3rn3l>   9504 is fine thats not the delay
Apr 01 19:52:22 <@k3rn3l>   its a VERY different process to flash it - its a lot of new shit - so the delay is getting JF ready
Apr 01 19:52:25 <@k3rn3l>   it has to be solid
Apr 01 19:52:32 <@k3rn3l>   or we will get a lot of whining bitches
Apr 01 19:52:53 <@k3rn3l>   its safe to say lizard will never ever be stand alone with 9504
Apr 01 19:53:05 <@k3rn3l>   unless you want to sit there for 45 minutes while it does the work lol
Apr 01 19:53:18 <@mr-crix>   lol
Apr 01 19:53:23 <@k3rn3l>   not exagerrating either
Apr 01 19:53:28 <@mr-crix>   i know
Apr 01 19:53:50 <@turny>   thought you cross the days off the calendar
Apr 01 19:53:54 <Gewle>   what are ppl using lizard with than, does it work with jf?
Apr 01 19:54:09 <@mr-crix>   does it shite
Apr 01 19:54:12 <Gewle>   if its not stand alone, what good is it i guess
Apr 01 19:54:21 <@mr-crix>   exactly

From #x360usb

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Apr 11 11:14:42 <sciswin1>   theres no stand alone product for flashing currently. unless you consider netbook/laptop + x360usb pro and a ck3 pro
Apr 11 11:15:03 <arcadekid>   i read something about a product called lizard
Apr 11 11:15:13 <sciswin1>   its not stand alone
Apr 11 11:15:15 <bumfun>   or the Lizard with battery pack
Apr 11 11:15:20 <@mr-crix>   and never will be

QUOTE

Apr 12 18:42:07 <@k3rn3l>   you have a mobile version - its called a netbook
Apr 12 18:42:23 <@k3rn3l>   there will never ever ever be a 100% solid hardware only flasher
Apr 12 18:42:25 <@k3rn3l>   ever
Apr 12 18:42:26 <@k3rn3l>   forget it
Apr 12 18:42:36 <@k3rn3l>   lizard is a waste of time. the customers were duped.
Apr 12 18:43:09 <@Podger>   they wanted to be duped

Some brief quotes from the owner of Team Xecuter (K3rn3l) and the 'impartial' Team Jungle people (oggie, podger, mr crix, turny, carlitosb, braveh43 et al.), these are but a slither of the constant berating, trolling and downright hatred from them towards Maximus/Lizard on IRC.

It's nice to see K3rn3l being the good sport and upstanding businessman he always has been, spreading the lies and misinformation he needs to sell his product. Also nice to see the Team Jungle people being his (supposedly) unpaid cronies, lapping up his spiel and spreading it willingly.

If Team Jungle aren't being paid by K3rn3l (as they claim not to be) for their unrelenting fanatical support of the X360USB Pro, then that is sad, really sad, they are acting as his free marketing and technical support for, what, a free X360USB that costs him $10-$20 max to make. Maybe if they were getting paid for the admittedly constant support they provide they wouldn't have to beg for donations. K3rn3l is a millionaire remember, the only people getting duped seem to be the Team Jungle members and the support staff in their channel.

[boneym]

seriously standalone?, how is that drive being powered?, how was the firmware prepared on the sd card?.
60 button presses to flash a drive, think I completed call of duty with less presses.
Maybe maximus could make a battery pack for the drive as well, make it truly standalone.
nice idea but a long way to go
thanks maximus/duracell.

[Blargharg]

TrevG0, I agree 100%.

k3rn3l i.e. "Mr. Xecuter" himself is an unbelievable douchebag, not only towards his competitors, but also towards his customers, which he treats with a complete and utter lack of respect if they're ever so unfortunate to wander into those irc channels. I've seen paying customers get ridiculed time and time again on #fw, #jungleflasher, #x360pro and other channels he's moderating, with his little cronies jumping in almost on command to deride everyone who DARES to talk about Maximus, or anything they don't like (or know) really. On top of that, he's not paying ANYTHING for the development of Jungle Flasher. Zero, nada, zilch. Considering he's quite literally a MILLIONAIRE (by his own bragging) I find it quite difficult to comprehend that he doesn't share ANY of his wealth with the people without which his product would be just a second grade piece of shit that it is.

Team Maximus is totally unaffiliated, a serious competitor and therefore a threat that they deal with through lies, deception, derision and all that good stuff they know so well. Personally, I'd buy Maximus Lizard ANY day over x360usb. Supporting good companies and boycotting bad ones is always the right choice, and one that will pay off in the end. Besides, Maximus Lizard has so much more potential and ambition than x360usb, I can't wait to see what it'll be capable of in a month or two with constant upgrades and development that's going on right now.

[Ubergeek]

QUOTE(Blargharg @ Apr 24 2011, 03:37 PM)

TrevG0, I agree 100%.

k3rn3l i.e. "Mr. Xecuter" himself is an unbelievable douchebag, not only towards his competitors, but also towards his customers, which he treats with a complete and utter lack of respect if they're ever so unfortunate to wander into those irc channels. I've seen paying customers get ridiculed time and time again on #fw, #jungleflasher, #x360pro and other channels he's moderating, with his little cronies jumping in almost on command to deride everyone who DARES to talk about Maximus, or anything they don't like (or know) really. On top of that, he's not paying ANYTHING for the development of Jungle Flasher. Zero, nada, zilch. Considering he's quite literally a MILLIONAIRE (by his own bragging) I find it quite difficult to comprehend that he doesn't share ANY of his wealth with the people without which his product would be just a second grade piece of shit that it is.

Team Maximus is totally unaffiliated, a serious competitor and therefore a threat that they deal with through lies, deception, derision and all that good stuff they know so well. Personally, I'd buy Maximus Lizard ANY day over x360usb. Supporting good companies and boycotting bad ones is always the right choice, and one that will pay off in the end. Besides, Maximus Lizard has so much more potential and ambition than x360usb, I can't wait to see what it'll be capable of in a month or two with constant upgrades and development that's going on right now.

delusional. gullible. absolutley clueless. congrats.

[Blargharg]

QUOTE(Ubergeek @ Apr 24 2011, 05:27 PM)

delusional. gullible. absolutley clueless. congrats.

Yeah, keep your cheerleading in the IRC channels buddy. Which one are you? k3rn3l? oggie? podger, mr crix, turny, carlitosb, braveh43, spudnutz?

Doesn't matter. Your bullshit stops with efnet. Keep insulting your customers, see where that gets you. Congrats on being a jackass.

[LittleBH]

QUOTE(TrevG0 @ Apr 24 2011, 01:17 PM)

Some brief quotes from the owner of Team Xecuter (K3rn3l) and the 'impartial' Team Jungle people (oggie, podger, mr crix, turny, carlitosb, braveh43 et al.), these are but a slither of the constant berating, trolling and downright hatred from them towards Maximus/Lizard on IRC.

It's nice to see K3rn3l being the good sport and upstanding businessman he always has been, spreading the lies and misinformation he needs to sell his product. Also nice to see the Team Jungle people being his (supposedly) unpaid cronies, lapping up his spiel and spreading it willingly.

If Team Jungle aren't being paid by K3rn3l (as they claim not to be) for their unrelenting fanatical support of the X360USB Pro, then that is sad, really sad, they are acting as his free marketing and technical support for, what, a free X360USB that costs him $10-$20 max to make. Maybe if they were getting paid for the admittedly constant support they provide they wouldn't have to beg for donations. K3rn3l is a millionaire remember, the only people getting duped seem to be the Team Jungle members and the support staff in their channel.

Ok, Since you have dragged me (BraveH43)  into this. I can categorically state "I have never had one single penny (cent, euro etc) from Team-Xecuter or for that matter Jungleflasher. I don't even mod peoples consoles! I have absolutely NO FINANCIAL GAIN WHATSOEVER from the Xbox scene

To suggest that I am totally against Maximus products is total bullshit! - I think you will still find all of Maximus previous products (with the exception of the LiteKey as it didn't actually work!) are still included in the Jungleflasher tutorial. All those products that were used in con-junction with Jungleflasher that is.

I have always  big'd up the better product - I say what i see!

In fact when T-X had a design issue with its earlier CK 3's - I used to frequently tell people to buy Maximus power dongle! (with USB Probe) as at the time it was by far the better product.

I have always and will continue to support Jungleflasher (as long as i am taking part in this scene) The author of Jungleflasher and many of the team always treated me with respect (even when i was learning all about flashing drives) - So i give back to the scene that helped me.

That is the ONLY reason I support Jungleflasher (that AND the fact it is by far the easiest and best firmware flashing solution). I lend support to x360USB as I see it as a tool for use with Jungleflasher.  (lets face it - its of very little use without JF, with the exception of the newly released HDD-Hackr tool)

Now, as for Hating Maximus products - No I dont, I hate being told that a product can do something, then after shelling out a large amount of cash, discovering It doesn't!
Luckily for me - I wasn't one of those people who rushed out and bought the lizard. (probably more to do with the bad taste in my mouth from the LiteKey and Xtractor 2)

So to Maximus - I wish you all the luck with the Lizard - I really do hope you get it to do all Ed and Redeath promised. For your customers sake.

[letsmod]

Litekey does work, it may not have fitted in place properly but it does work !!

X360 USB Pro and Lizard are similar in function, but along way from actual comparison.  The standalone is working and can convert on the fly, the lizard is basically a mini PC in true retrospect.

As far as the constant slamming TX does on lizard, keep it up, your only hurting yourselves and I should dig out those old posts on this fourm, where TX states they never slam or bash any competitor products, but yet every update they make there is a little poke in the side.

You cant price compare USB Pro and lizard - A single device $56 vs a complete kit $99.90

Lizard is also now being sold as a seperate device for $69.90 (From some resellers) for those who already have the other tools needed and/or built there own PMT device or converted there older devices to PMT.

well, I have posted my 2 cents

[LittleBH]

QUOTE(letsmod @ Apr 24 2011, 06:48 PM)

Litekey does work, it may not have fitted in place properly but it does work !!

X360 USB Pro and Lizard are similar in function, but along way from actual comparison.  The standalone is working and can convert on the fly, the lizard is basically a mini PC in true retrospect.

As far as the constant slamming TX does on lizard, keep it up, your only hurting yourselves and I should dig out those old posts on this fourm, where TX states they never slam or bash any competitor products, but yet every update they make there is a little poke in the side.

You cant price compare USB Pro and lizard - A single device $56 vs a complete kit $99.90

Lizard is also now being sold as a seperate device for $69.90 (From some resellers) for those who already have the other tools needed and/or built there own PMT device or converted there older devices to PMT.

well, I have posted my 2 cents

Ed, I appreciate your reply. But i fail to see how a product (LiteKey) can be classed as working if you cant actually fit it!

Also you say Lizard is standalone - yet this is STILL not released! and I also ask if it is standalone for all current flashable drives? 9504 included?

However - the point of my post was to state "Im NOT in T-Xs pocket" My only loyalty is to Jungleflasher - and that Loyalty is not financial in any way shape or form.

I am saddened by the Maximus crowds short memories - Jungleflasher always supported Max's products - until Max decided to go it alone with Lizard. (no requirement for JF!) so no support needed from JF

Also - even when JF released PMT - I even devised a workaround for the pwr dongle to utilize PMT method!

But on a final note - I seem to recall you yourself were one of the most prolific haters on this forum!

In short - "Pot! this is Kettle - You're Black!"

[blastagator]

I don't get it ... DVD Drive still needs power so how will it ever actually be stand alone?