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[teajunkie]

QUOTE(letsmod @ Apr 15 2010, 10:39 PM)

you obviously have never used a vampire or even taken the time to look at the user manual where you make the 3 cut's and link one wire thus bypassing the need for a rebuild board.

Then I made a mistake.

For the record do you own a NAND-X or read anything about the kit as you seem to say a lot of things about what it does and does not come with ? Its easy to make mistakes yes ?

@Blargharg I have seen the JTAG kit that comes with the 360 nandflasher - im sorry but it will NOT work on all motherboards. letsmod knows it, anyone who knows anything about jtaging knows it.

Also if you can show me one single post where Xecuter mentions the Vampire and says ANYTHING about it then please show me. As far as I can see Xecuter has never mentioned Maximus, but letsmod here likes to mention them a lot - but of course he owns a shop that only sells max product so of course he will talk shit - its very unprofessional.

I think you are also a little bit nuts thinking that Xecuter needs to boost sales by talking shit. You only have to read letsmod posts and his lies about Xecuter to see that you are being a bit of hypocrite.

[LittleBH]

QUOTE(Blargharg @ Apr 15 2010, 10:34 PM)

So you see, I'm not talking out of my ass, but from experience. And I REALLY don't like the way Team Xecuter is acting, spewing nonsense about competing products. In my experience, both work fine, and there really isn't much difference at all. Xecuter are just pissed cause Maximus beat them to the market both on vampire probe and nandflasher, and the worst part is they're spreading FUD like "you can't flash Winbond chipset with vampire probe without rebuild pcb" (which is complete bullshit by the way) to boost the sales of their own LATE TO THE MARKET products. That's just not a fair competition I think, and it made me rethink buying from Xecuter again.

Actually T-X didn't claim it couldn't dump winbond!
I reviewed the Vamp, I claimed that MY ONE WINBOND WOULDN'T DUMP using the Vampire! - I CLEARLY STATED that i only had 1 winbond to test it on! - I ALSO STATED that i was UNABLE to confirm this for that reason!

(T-X only stated there was Winbond troubles that the Probe 2 could handle - AS I STATED in my probe 2 review)

Since then the Vampire has been Additionally reviewed by JJ using a different winbond drive that worked!
Great - I am pleased that it works on Winbond (for those that has bought the product!)

However - I stand by the fact that MY VAMPIRE WOULD NOT DUMP MY WINBOND! yet Probe II DID!

I stand by my reviews! - if you can prove anything wrong in what i have said - i will be more than happy to publicly apologise to anyone concerned!

But please dont go abusing either manufacturer for something that has stemmed from my review! -
 Chinese whispers are a terrible thing!

Oh incidentaly - you cannot flash a winbond using the vampire WITHOUT rebuilding the traces first or having the rebuild PCB fitted and the jumper soldered first! - that is all T-X has stated!

not that it isnt possible! - you can dump the drive! just not flash it(using the Vamp)

[letsmod]

QUOTE(teajunkie @ Apr 15 2010, 02:47 PM)

Then I made a mistake.

For the record do you own a NAND-X or read anything about the kit as you seem to say a lot of things about what it does and does not come with ? Its easy to make mistakes yes ?

@Blargharg I have seen the JTAG kit that comes with the 360 nandflasher - im sorry but it will NOT work on all motherboards. letsmod knows it, anyone who knows anything about jtaging knows it.

Also if you can show me one single post where Xecuter mentions the Vampire and says ANYTHING about it then please show me. As far as I can see Xecuter has never mentioned Maximus, but letsmod here likes to mention them a lot - but of course he owns a shop that only sells max product so of course he will talk shit - its very unprofessional.

I think you are also a little bit nuts thinking that Xecuter needs to boost sales by talking shit. You only have to read letsmod posts and his lies about Xecuter to see that you are being a bit of hypocrite.

NANDflasher wont work on every board??  Really, considering I HAVE used it on every single board, Xenon, Zephyr, Opus, falcon, Jasper, Jasper 256 and Jasper 512

NOW we did not put on the on/off switch  which was a good idea by T-X, becuase unless you remove board C the console wont boot original dash

we did incorporate a resitor on board C R1 which allows it to work on all.

so, if there is something you know, please tell us

[letsmod]

470 ohm??  I havent seen those, please share

[dazv6]

QUOTE(Blargharg @ Apr 15 2010, 05:47 PM)

Lol, i've flashed more than a few winbonds without the rebuild board, so that's a YES. Probe 1 is redundant, if you want to do right by your customers you'll extract the full firmware with calibration data. I've never had a need for Multi-R with my vampire. NEVER. Is there a single Probe 2 in the hands of the customers yet? NO.

Iv got a probe 2 m8 so ur little rant is a little unfounded.

[letsmod]

ok, will research it thanks

[Blargharg]

QUOTE(letsmod @ Apr 16 2010, 12:34 AM)

ok, will research it thanks

Here, i found it for you, it's actually discussed on T-X forums

Just a few posts in this thread:

http://team-xecuter....ead.php?t=53630

I guess my assumption before was wrong, and our assumption on the role of the switch on T-X jtag module is also wrong. I'm guessing their switch changes between no resistance, 100ohm and 330ohm between points 4 and 7 on J2D2. They're talking about "many reports" of rrod's without.

[teajunkie]

QUOTE(Blargharg @ Apr 15 2010, 11:31 PM)

Yeah, I'm guessing teajunkie is referring to Xenon/Zephyr boards that won't work with 330 ohm resistors or diodes, some anecdotal evidence suggests they work with 470ohm ones. I think it's been discussed on xboxhacker.
Good for you. Got it this week? I've had my vampire for 2 months now.

They are two different products no matter which way you spin it. Many reports on different resistor values needed for 9xxx series drives, laser calibration not needed (common knowledge) so Probe v1 function is perfect for 7xxx drives, and you can flash as well as dump without any rebuild pcb or having to repair any traces first. It's not about being first its about which product is best and does the most.

For the record - here's just one of the Xecuter JTAG kits - as you can see its been done correctly - contrary to what letsmod would like to have you believe.

[Blargharg]

QUOTE(teajunkie @ Apr 16 2010, 12:35 AM)

You should read Xecuter posts on their JTAG tests. They have 3 separate kits - they all include 0 / 330 and 470 as well as a different design for both the top of the motherboard and the bottom.

Your opinions are a little misguided. I own products from all companies - I just don't like to see people spreading bullshit - there is too much of it going on. You get a chinese whisper and it turns into lies then people think its the truth.

letsmods: Regarding Laser Calibration data - you should do your homework before spreading misinformation:

http://www.xboxhacke...?topic=13875.10

All respect to Geremia, but this is a controversial issue to say the least. And nowhere in that thread does he say not to do a full dump, he's just trying to help a guy who didn't get his calibration data when using r707 method and now has reading problems with his drive. Hardware error? Geremia thinks so. But from what i've read about all the Lite-ons having calibration problems after flashing with iX 1.6 back when r707 was the only method of choice it seems at least likely some of those were caused by missing calibration data. The fact remains that mra is THE method of choice now for all Lite-ons, if nothing else, you have full dump so you can go back to stock whenever you want (which many ppl did before updating to the new 9199 dash).

[letsmod]

QUOTE(teajunkie @ Apr 15 2010, 03:46 PM)

They are two different products no matter which way you spin it. Many reports on different resistor values needed for 9xxx series drives, laser calibration not needed (common knowledge) so Probe v1 function is perfect for 7xxx drives, and you can flash as well as dump without any rebuild pcb or having to repair any traces first. It's not about being first its about which product is best and does the most.

For the record - here's just one of the Xecuter JTAG kits - as you can see its been done correctly - contrary to what letsmod would like to have you believe.

we have our design and T-X has there's it just that simple, do they both work? yes.  Do all consoles use 330 ohm resitor? no

We are not perfect and neither is T-X

thanks for the hint on how to redesign board C, both us and T-X can work together and learn from one another, just like both teams have for along time, let's stop the bashing and hating and get on with life

[ToBbErT]

Lol what a drama once again.....

[OggyUK]

If my opinion counts for anything

A "full dump" for 3c000 data (calibration data - lol) is the biggest waste of time going,

There is categorically no way this will ever be used for detection, its a mute point.

I personally dvdkey 74850's, lo83 83850c v1's ....

And I do this using maximus products,

[Yes, c4eva said it should be included for completeness - Just Like "Wisely Loves LAN" in BenQ fw - which toolbox never copied, and, MS never checked]

However ...

Maximus should have included Probe 1 support, who wants to fuck about changing cables just to mod a different drive - no-one, if, they dont have to.

I feel that I personally contributed to the delay of NandX, playing with jtag consoles and shipping added some time to testing - While this hasnt been confirmed by Xecuter, I'm sure it has had a detrimental effect on its shipping and release (+7 days)

Lol, just lol at the guy bringing post count into it - /me thinks of Podgers first post on XBH, something about 79unlock or some shit, he got a similar response....

Also, Probe 2's are in customers hands, nandx's are close to shipping afaik .... but hell,

This reminds me of people wanting LT  - happy to bitch about it being tested "for too long" - but likely to bitch when it needs updated / fixed / improved ....

People should be happy it is being tested, revised and improved for all round support.....even if it adds a week to receiving the product, regardless of the name behind it.

[BoNg420]

QUOTE(Blargharg @ Apr 16 2010, 02:27 PM)

You know, you can say anything you want about that, but come November, this just might be the difference between getting banned or not. For a skilled modder mra method takes only 10-15 mins longer anyway, so why not do it for the sake of "completeness"? I think it's only fair if you mod for profit.

Come November?  MS has been known for ban waves during spring as well.

[OggyUK]

QUOTE(Blargharg @ Apr 16 2010, 07:27 PM)

You know, you can say anything you want about that, but come November, this just might be the difference between getting banned or not. For a skilled modder mra method takes only 10-15 mins longer anyway, so why not do it for the sake of "completeness"? I think it's only fair if you mod for profit.

I call myself a skilled modder, I beta'd LT .... I used lo83 on my drive.

Sure, it could be the difference between being banned and not.

I'm also sure that it won't be, so many easy checks, never issued by MS and I'm 99% sure they didnt archive EVERY drives test data on record for checking against.

Not to mention it isnt (to us) accessibe by cdb in retail (or LT) fw.

That, there, is a big difference.

To me, and to others I talk with, its a storm in a teacup.

[Spark]

Sorry for the dumb sounding question but could the LT clip or Probe V2 be used with the old Xeno connectivity kit or is one of the CK3-series of kits needed for these?

I'm thinking that along with the LT switch/probe solution you just need something to basically power the drive then but I've been wrong before.