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[Chan163]

The drive I have siting here is made in July and is not dumpable! I tried it with JF a dozen of times, it just won't do. So it's not from August, but from July already.

So it is possible to put the Cygnos V2 on on the board, read the drive key from the MB and flash it to the drive? Explain how, please (I mean I do know how to extract that key, there are tutorials etc., but aren't there some more informations from the DVD drive missing?)! I was considering getting the Cygnos V2 anyways....

[TerminatR]

QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Oct 26 2009, 12:39 AM)

No sacrifice had to be made. Microsoft was stupid enough to ship a new v2 liteon 83850c paired to a motherboard with an exploitable dash. So the person that confirmed this read his key from the motherboard and flashed the drive.

If thats true, then this implies that the key is in the same location as before.

Very interesting......

[comhen]

QUOTE(TerminatR @ Oct 26 2009, 12:41 PM)

If thats true, then this implies that the key is in the same location as before.

Very interesting......

Yes, very interesting
But wouldn’t the key be found on the motherboard be in the same location but different location on the drive firmware?
Meaning the motherboard can accept multiple key algorithm from the drive but can’t Identify which drive is sending what algorithm. Am I correct in saying this?

[junkdewd]

QUOTE(Wilson_93 @ Oct 25 2009, 06:44 AM)

Wrong, I just flashed a July DG16D2S-09C with 83850C perfectly. It's the ones made from August and up that can't be flashed.

DG-16D2S-09C
A0A2
83850C
AUGUST, 2009

Came back from microsoft less than 3 weeks ago, pulled keys and flashed first try with dosflash

[mputten]

QUOTE(comhen @ Oct 26 2009, 04:35 AM)

Yes, very interesting
But wouldn’t the key be found on the motherboard be in the same location but different location on the drive firmware?
Meaning the motherboard can accept multiple key algorithm from the drive but can’t Identify which drive is sending what algorithm. Am I correct in saying this?

Okt, this guy flashed his drives with the ixtreme 1.6 FW? Was de key extractable After he flashed his drive with 1.6? if yes then it's 100% a patched firmware.
And does this 83850 V2 drive report as a normal 83850 v1? (same spoof data?)



At the end all drives will be readable by cracking the encryption of data that flows from the drive to the 360. How much 360's with a known key and spoof data are there? If you use the same game to start on a lot of those consoles..... It's hard to do, but I think  it can work this way. takes long too to gather this data and crack the algo.

This post has been edited by mputten: Oct 26 2009, 10:11 AM

[Ranger72]

Why are we discussing the same topic in 2 different threads?

There is already a ton of information on THIS thread that has been going for over a month now.

May as well keep all the 83850c V2 discussion into the main 83850c V2 thread that way we can better keep track of everything that is going on.

This post has been edited by Ranger72: Oct 26 2009, 05:01 PM

[carniver]

Stupid move for Microsoft to have removed the heatpipe. I just modded a Jasper with the heatpipe and found that it's still quite warm to touch. Without it means more heat concentrated on the motherboard; saving couple bucks on the heatpipe just so that they can get more RMAs doesn't sound like a wise move to me.

[chinozzz]

QUOTE(Wilson_93 @ Oct 25 2009, 12:44 PM)

Wrong, I just flashed a July DG16D2S-09C with 83850C perfectly. It's the ones made from August and up that can't be flashed.

I second that, I have modded at least 10 of those with the DG16D2S-09C...

[khontos]

QUOTE(crisdo98 @ Oct 24 2009, 10:07 PM)

I've modded a few 'new' console recently that don't have the secondary GPU heatsink however they still have the moddable 83850C drive.

These consoles weren't the new forza pack so I can't comment on if they can be hacked or not.

I also have one of these consoles, bought from wal-mart on sept. 25. Elite model.

[kainy]

Well I've too hacked several 83850c drives, with the 09C Lite-On, so these "unhackable" drives must have something else to distinguish them, or they just might be normal 83850c drives which one fellow just couldn't read If it was a new firmware, it would be stated on the label.

[Morninglight]

I just got one.. no problems reading and flashing the usual way...

 

[syntaxerror329]

QUOTE(kainy @ Oct 27 2009, 04:13 AM)

Well I've too hacked several 83850c drives, with the 09C Lite-On, so these "unhackable" drives must have something else to distinguish them

I also have hacked the 09C so i agree 100% this is not a good way to indentify them at all. Perhaps it is true that all the unhackable ones will have the 09C on them but yeah that doesn't help.

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or they just might be normal 83850c drives which one fellow just couldn't read

Well its a known fact that that these drive are out there. Many people here have hacked dozens of the 83850c drives then one day they started getting ones that give the lo83 failed message. Mostly with August or newer manufacture dates.

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If it was a new firmware, it would be stated on the label.

Yeah! How dare Microsoft not at least call it a new firmware # - but that is what they did this time. Clearly they must know that that will make this more annoying for us.

[sunrise586]

hi sorry if this is slightly off topic ...but just bought an elite in a "fable II" box ....its manufact' date is 2009-05-07  ....wondering how likely this is going to be one of the new unreadable drives, anyone any ideas when the new drive units started to appear?

cheers

a.

[kainy]

QUOTE(sunrise586 @ Oct 27 2009, 07:15 PM)

hi sorry if this is slightly off topic ...but just bought an elite in a "fable II" box ....its manufact' date is 2009-05-07  ....wondering how likely this is going to be one of the new unreadable drives, anyone any ideas when the new drive units started to appear?

cheers

a.

I bought several of these from Amazon.co.uk, with manufacture date between 5th and 7th month and all were with 83850c hackable drives.


And for the new drives... isn't it possible that this unreadable drives could have some kind of a defect or something like that. I've personally had a problem with a samsung ( original firm ) that couldn't be dumped with any software. But eventually jungle succeeded but than the 1st part of the flash chip was miraculously deleted ( the one containing the drive key ). Strange but it happened... The key was deleted while unlocking the drive

Aside from that we know that the 83850c drive is exactly the same as the 74... liteon, but only the firm is different. So in case of a new firmware it's completely normal for a new firmware model to be displayed on the label. I don't think M$ will do something like hiding it.

[exelzor]

QUOTE(site @ Oct 27 2009, 09:19 PM)

De drive blijft errors geven bij het uitlezen met Dosflash: Invalid Drive Data

Gegevens over de 360:

Forza 3 pack xbox 360 Elite
MFR: 2009-08-17 LOT 0942
DVD-DRIVE: Philips-LiteOn DG16D2S-09C
HW: AOA2
SW; 83850C

Onderaan de drive stond dit:

7819503050-B  CM1

hi guys. Funny thing. This is the exact information from the site. Probably i'm the first dutch guy to read it. But i will translate it exactally for you:

CODE

The drive keeps returring error when trying to read with dosflash: Invalid Drive Data

Information about the xbox 360:

Forza 3 pack xbox 360 Elite
MFR: 2009-08-17 LOT 0942
DVD-DRIVE: Philips-LiteOn DG16D2S-09C
HW: AOA2
SW; 83850C

On the bottem of the drive:

7819503050-B  CM1

So this guy tried to read the drive with dosflash?!!?!!
I'm having doubts about the competence of this guy and about the validity of his message reporting this drive is unreadable. All of us know that the new liteon MUST be read with jungleflasher.