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maczeq20

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« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2009, 09:04:00 AM »

I got this nasty Drive im my xbox 360 elite too. I bought it in package with Lego Batman and Pure. Xbox is from 28.08.09 and the drive is from August.
No way to get out key atm...
I hope that some1 will find a way to do it fast tongue.gif
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« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2009, 09:37:00 AM »

I was able to flash an 83850c that had a manufacturers date of August 09.  It took my partner and I about 12 tries before we read the firmware.  Then, with the Via drive UNINSTALLED the computer froze/hung when we tried to erase it.

I booted into DOS using the NTFS4DOS disc, loaded dosflash, used the l-o-eras command with my port number and it took about 5 tries until the drive was erased.  We then used dosflash to flash the firmware we dumped and modified with Jungleflasher to the drive.

Are the August 09 drives the new liteons/liteon v2 drives?  If so we just did one for a customer and it was a bitch to do.  We flashed an original liteon with the probe that same day and one of the v1 83850c drives that same day as well without a hitch...

QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Oct 24 2009, 10:20 PM) View Post

I posted pics of this same new heatsink layout over a month ago HERE.

Of course back then we still had the good 83850c (V1) drive that could still be modded.

Basically old news now.
IPB Image
IPB Image


I did see this when you posted it.  Now I wonder why some new systems don't have the old heat sink and some have the new heatsink.  They may just be going through their supply of heatsinks though...
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« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2009, 11:28:00 AM »

Hi.I'm french and i'm a new memebr on xbox scene,but i have already flash 2 lite-on 83850c revision 09c,with the jungle flasher 1.66 method and it's work very fine.The model was:jasper model without the second heatsink.the number of lot was 0940 and the date on 16th august 2009(forza 3 pack with 120gb hdd).i think you can flash by jungle method but not with dosflash method .
See you later.
P.S:sorry for my poor english
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« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2009, 01:12:00 PM »

I think that times of flashed drives is coming to the end... These new drives won't give us encryption key and podger have said that Team Jungle (not Team HyperX, Team HyperX is no longer exists) are already dump and analyse new 83850c. There is no debug code - no method to recieve the encryption key. The only way for now is new JTAG (that will work with new 1BL) and XELL for Jasper or VoltMod to fool MT1319L and unlock drive's flash without erasing it (MT1319L will think that flash is empty) or decap for everyone (very hard and expensive)...
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« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2009, 01:42:00 PM »

Well IF it is the end of flashable drives, we have had a very good run!

The billions of ££££££ MS have ..............have certainly won this battle with this new drive by the sound of it.

good luck all....

oh and a mention for C4EVA and Team J.......             smile.gif
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« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2009, 02:38:00 PM »

Don't give up so quickly smile.gif We'll wait and see. If it must be done with only time attack, it will be. It might be expensive, but still cheaper than the alternative smile.gif
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« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2009, 02:56:00 PM »

We've waited like a 6 months for the first Lite On to be hacked. And people now after 1-2 months or so are already crying that its end of flashing consoles? Woah you guys are fast tongue.gif
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« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2009, 02:56:00 PM »

Some forums indicates that it is still possible to use RS232 probe on R707 or any of the alternative read points that connect to pin 6 on the liteon chip.
http://images.google...=liteonalt1.jpg

So perhaps not undumpable but rather unflashable?

Is it possible to use old Liteon and spoof that to v2 drive?
Or has someone flashed it using standard liteon f/w?
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« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2009, 02:57:00 PM »

QUOTE(damonnomad @ Oct 25 2009, 11:09 AM) View Post

Your thinking about this the wrong way.

The extra heat sink/pipe was a response to the RROD and E74 errors.

Clearing that up, leaves you with being able to remove the heat pipe.


Yes and now with the smaller cooler GPU it isn't needed,
I was commenting on this post by fahrenheit:
http://forums.xbox-s...&...t&p=4527703

Although my mistake as its another thread linked in this one - need more sleep  sleeping.gif
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« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2009, 04:42:00 PM »

QUOTE(nicnull @ Oct 25 2009, 04:56 PM) View Post

Some forums indicates that it is still possible to use RS232 probe on R707 or any of the alternative read points that connect to pin 6 on the liteon chip.
http://images.google...=liteonalt1.jpg

So perhaps not undumpable but rather unflashable?

Is it possible to use old Liteon and spoof that to v2 drive?
Or has someone flashed it using standard liteon f/w?


r707 is dead! attempting to do that on any 83xxx lite-on is dangerous and just wont work anyhow.

The new lite-on can be erased and reprogrammed no problem. The issue is we don't have anyway to dump the key yet.
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« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2009, 05:10:00 PM »

*nothing* is un-hackable. be patient....
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« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2009, 05:24:00 PM »

QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Oct 25 2009, 11:42 PM) View Post

The new lite-on can be erased and reprogrammed no problem.



My thanks to whomever sacrificed their drive to confirm this information.

So, it could be that the key is in a new location, or the encryption is different, or possibly both.

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syntaxerror329

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« Reply #57 on: October 25, 2009, 05:39:00 PM »

QUOTE(TerminatR @ Oct 25 2009, 07:24 PM) View Post

My thanks to whomever sacrificed their drive to confirm this information.

So, it could be that the key is in a new location, or the encryption is different, or possibly both.


No sacrifice had to be made. Microsoft was stupid enough to ship a new v2 liteon 83850c paired to a motherboard with an exploitable dash. So the person that confirmed this read his key from the motherboard and flashed the drive.
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« Reply #58 on: October 25, 2009, 05:52:00 PM »

Incoming shitstorm of RRoD wave...

QUOTE(ezdvd @ Oct 25 2009, 04:10 PM) *

*nothing* is un-hackable. be patient....


That's not true at all to be honest.
Breaking the security measures of the new drive won't be an issue, however.
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« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2009, 07:15:00 PM »

QUOTE(.ISO @ Oct 25 2009, 04:52 PM) View Post

Incoming shitstorm of RRoD wave...
That's not true at all to be honest.
Breaking the security measures of the new drive won't be an issue, however.



It's true. It just depends on whether or not it is worthwhile or how long it'll take.

This thing will be cracked wide open eventually. Patience:D
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