Topic: New Hardware In 360's With A Nasty Drive (Read 950 times)

modslave · « **Reply #30 on:** October 25, 2009, 03:59:00 AM »

News to me

If its been front page before then I've def missed it.

Can't see how the extra heat sink pipe can add to e74 errors?

damonnomad · « **Reply #31 on:** October 25, 2009, 04:09:00 AM »

QUOTE(modslave @ Oct 25 2009, 05:59 PM)

News to me

If its been front page before then I've def missed it.

Can't see how the extra heat sink pipe can add to e74 errors?

Your thinking about this the wrong way.

The extra heat sink/pipe was a response to the RROD and E74 errors.

Clearing that up, leaves you with being able to remove the heat pipe.

K1LLERHORNET · « **Reply #32 on:** October 25, 2009, 04:25:00 AM »

QUOTE(Geen Rommel @ Oct 25 2009, 03:50 AM)

I bet it's just a hidden advertisement for his shop.

off topic: wtf, they're asking 150 for an unofficial 250 GB HDD, which can be made for 50 (hdd + casing) using a free tool.

That's 40 more than on Ebay; & i thought that was incredibly overpriced.

Geen Rommel · « **Reply #33 on:** October 25, 2009, 04:36:00 AM »

QUOTE(mputten @ Oct 25 2009, 11:43 AM)

My Liteon was made in AUG 2009 (around the time freekey became public). They should have waited much longer.

Don't blame Freekey, blame Foundmy.

markovts · « **Reply #34 on:** October 25, 2009, 04:45:00 AM »

i think there's a bit of confusion around here on flashing the liteon's with 83850C firmware.

There's 2 drives that have this revision of firmware -

DG16D2S
DG16D2S-09C

The DG16D2S can be read/dumped/flashed/whatever without the probe and just jf with the lo83 function.

the DG16D2S-09C can NOT be read/dumped/flashed/whatever.

So if you say you've been able to flash a 83850C firmware drive, it's been the model without the 09C at the end!

Wilson_93 · « **Reply #35 on:** October 25, 2009, 05:44:00 AM »

QUOTE(markovts @ Oct 25 2009, 11:45 AM)

i think there's a bit of confusion around here on flashing the liteon's with 83850C firmware.

There's 2 drives that have this revision of firmware -

DG16D2S
DG16D2S-09C

The DG16D2S can be read/dumped/flashed/whatever without the probe and just jf with the lo83 function.

the DG16D2S-09C can NOT be read/dumped/flashed/whatever.

So if you say you've been able to flash a 83850C firmware drive, it's been the model without the 09C at the end!

Wrong, I just flashed a July DG16D2S-09C with 83850C perfectly. It's the ones made from August and up that can't be flashed.

markovts · « **Reply #36 on:** October 25, 2009, 05:48:00 AM »

ok so we need to find out the difference between the post august one's and the pre august one's

i have tried a post august one and couldn't do it.

marko19 · « **Reply #37 on:** October 25, 2009, 05:49:00 AM »

QUOTE(markovts @ Oct 25 2009, 12:45 PM)

i think there's a bit of confusion around here on flashing the liteon's with 83850C firmware.

There's 2 drives that have this revision of firmware -

DG16D2S
DG16D2S-09C

The DG16D2S can be read/dumped/flashed/whatever without the probe and just jf with the lo83 function.

the DG16D2S-09C can NOT be read/dumped/flashed/whatever.

So if you say you've been able to flash a 83850C firmware drive, it's been the model without the 09C at the end!

You are wrong. I have just flashed a DG16D2S-09C, 83850C, JULY 09 drive with ixtreme 1.6 no problem at all with jungleflasher 1.66b.

tested and working fine.

This was from an xbox elite with the new style box, smaller psu, and jasper mobo revision, it has a manufacture date of 03 08 2009 bought from currys in the UK.

rubberdog · « **Reply #38 on:** October 25, 2009, 06:03:00 AM »

Hi There...

Was just reading this post and thought I'd open up my Forza 250gb model....I was going to keep it stock until the newer ixtreme for wave 4 was released....but wanted to see what I had.

I've got the new heatsink config and also no on board memory? Thought this was odd when I went into the settings on the xbox dash? I might be wrong but i thought all jaspers had the 256 on board now or are microsoft only putting that in the arcade models now??

Either way....my drive label says DG16D2S-09C, but jungleflasher brought it up as a DG16D2S....

Just flashed it without a problem.

Any thoughts??

Just tested it and it's playing backups perfectly

logicwatch · « **Reply #39 on:** October 25, 2009, 06:05:00 AM »

QUOTE(markovts @ Oct 25 2009, 12:48 PM)

ok so we need to find out the difference between the post august one's and the pre august one's

i have tried a post august one and couldn't do it.

well that is the issue currently nobody has found out how to id either flashable or unflashable from label on drive to id on drive motherboard its pot luck which one you get aug onwards !!
dammed inconsiderate microsoft !!!

ddawg · « **Reply #40 on:** October 25, 2009, 06:12:00 AM »

Just a note on the updated cooling setup in the 360.

I recently reviewed the thermal modelling of the 360, the previous version compared to this new one.
This one is a far more efficient solution based on the temperature and airflow map.
I didn't realise this change had been made recently, I assumed that this has been in the system for a while.
I reviewed this as part of my job as we are intending to buy the software used to model the airflow in electronics systems. To my surprise, the demonstration piece used was the 360 shown in the photo.

hessec · « **Reply #41 on:** October 25, 2009, 07:14:00 AM »

I got an arcade without the extended heatsink almost 2 months ago, and I was a bit PO'd, thinking Microsoft just went cheap on parts. It had the modifiable 83850c drive, but I had to do things differently then all the tutorials to get it to work (i blame my computer for this).

-manufactured on 2009-7-23

This post has been edited by hessec: Oct 25 2009, 02:17 PM

ruciz · « **Reply #42 on:** October 25, 2009, 07:44:00 AM »

QUOTE(rubberdog @ Oct 25 2009, 01:03 PM)

Hi There...

Was just reading this post and thought I'd open up my Forza 250gb model....I was going to keep it stock until the newer ixtreme for wave 4 was released....but wanted to see what I had.

I've got the new heatsink config and also no on board memory? Thought this was odd when I went into the settings on the xbox dash? I might be wrong but i thought all jaspers had the 256 on board now or are microsoft only putting that in the arcade models now??

Either way....my drive label says DG16D2S-09C, but jungleflasher brought it up as a DG16D2S....

Just flashed it without a problem.

Any thoughts??

Just tested it and it's playing backups perfectly

You got a drive made before august then.

The 09C means nothing.. The drives look 100% identical except the flashable ones are made from their launch until August 09. model numbers, power levels, drive name.. can all be identical. except August is now present. I had 3 that were August 09. jf no go, iPrep tools no go, specific 83 tools no go. Key is locked up. all it dumps is garbage 00 so they clearly moved the key and changed the algorithm I would say. Ones from July 09 were fine though.

Personally I hope freeBOOT takes over, and we can get the key in a totally different manner not specific to ANY drive..

Also, just cause JF reports it as the 83850 don't mean that the hack made to work for a 93450 wouldn't apply to the 83850.. Im saying this as people were getting 74 shells with 83s in them, and 83s that showed as 83s that had to be dumped as 74's if a certain key was retrieved. Remember PSP TA88V3 and PSP-3000? two different model numbers that load chickHEN the same way!

Ranger72 · « **Reply #43 on:** October 25, 2009, 08:20:00 AM »

QUOTE(mputten @ Oct 25 2009, 05:43 AM)

I thought it was new worthy, because I've never seen this new on the homepage of XS. And I thought M$ picked a nice bundle to start with this patched firmware. BTW the newest DOSFLASH (DOS is more stable then JF in windows) can read the keys out of the older 83530C drives. But this one keeps giving the error.
Maybe it's time to report which boxes can't be read?
MFR/LOT of 360 and the MFR date of the drive
My Liteon was made in AUG 2009 (around the time freekey became public). They should have waited much longer.

Here is the nearly month old thread about this new 83850c (V2) drive that cant be dumped by traditional means.

sm0kie · « **Reply #44 on:** October 25, 2009, 08:47:00 AM »

QUOTE(ramiuk1 @ Oct 25 2009, 03:09 AM)

i got one of these last month,just sent it back as it was unreadable,
regarding the dvd drive im 99% they are already aware of it,i tried for ages to dump it but it wouldnt and after spending a while in irc talking about it nobody could solve it but quite a few mentioned that they knew there was this 8xxxx drive in the wild

Just wanted to check, are you really saying you know of a shop that will sell you a 360, let you take it home and open it up (killing the warranty sticker) and then take it back with no problems??? What happens when they see the sticker is messed about with? I'm guessing they have your addy to write and ask why you voided it (and prob ask for the money for it or new one back)
excuse the off topic message but this just seems very sus'

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