Topic: Xecuter xDrive 360 (Read 1290 times)

Martinchris23 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 18, 2009, 01:44:00 PM »

QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Aug 18 2009, 07:20 PM)

I thought the NAND could log data offline, and send it to the host when one logs back on.

It's totally unproven and thinking about it, would be stupidly risky for MS to implement. At what point does it log the data? There's no warning on screen it's happening so what would happen if the user decided to power down the 360 halfway through a write?

Back OT, going online with a modified drive is not risky at all - the risk comes with the media you put into it. If you choose to leave your network cable connected whilst playing your backups, you run a far greater risk that a second drive wouldn't save you from (which you'd still need to do should you take the notion of an external modified drive, otherwise the entire exercise is useless).

Hozy · « **Reply #31 on:** August 18, 2009, 01:46:00 PM »

Sweet, Means I can now Have stock internal & modded external & switch at will...

So for when I lend my console out, Have my nephew over etc...

Seems like I'll need 2 of these beauties!

P.S-

for those of you complaining, think of it as a [RROD] precaution.
Mount your drive external in a nice housing & have a 80mm or 120mm fan on your box, cooling your GPU ALL THE TIME.

Cheers
MaT

RRODXbox · « **Reply #32 on:** August 18, 2009, 01:52:00 PM »

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Aug 18 2009, 08:44 PM)

It's totally unproven and thinking about it, would be stupidly risky for MS to implement. At what point does it log the data? There's no warning on screen it's happening so what would happen if the user decided to power down the 360 halfway through a write?

Back OT, going online with a modified drive is not risky at all - the risk comes with the media you put into it. If you choose to leave your network cable connected whilst playing your backups, you run a far greater risk that a second drive wouldn't save you from (which you'd still need to do should you take the notion of an external modified drive, otherwise the entire exercise is useless).

Well, it probably writes tiny amounts of data at the moment you insert the disc. also could explain when you power the 360 down sometimes it will sit there with the fans running for a min or so before shutting off.

Have you never heard of secdata.bin?

marlboroa · « **Reply #33 on:** August 18, 2009, 02:38:00 PM »

i have not been on live in 2 years so im not that worried about a ban.

Mike4 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 18, 2009, 02:41:00 PM »

QUOTE(ZprivateZ @ Aug 18 2009, 01:32 PM)

none taken the points were givin to me so I dressed up my avatar, either way not my money lol

It doesn't matter how you acquired the points. Whether they were given to you for free or you bought them with your hard-earned money, you still spent it on a light saber, so you were "weaseled" out of your money (your words). Unless you have never gotten anything from the marketplace or never will in the future (which I doubt), then you could have used them on something much more valuable to you. Since you spent them on the light saber instead, MS successfully "weaseled" you out of your money (remember, these are your words).

Unless of course the light saber for your avatar is valuable to you. That's perfectly fine, but then you should have said that before, instead of pretending you just blew the points on nonsense because you didn't pay for them.

johnnyrico · « **Reply #35 on:** August 18, 2009, 02:50:00 PM »

I miss the time Xecuter was one of the leading groups in developing modchips that allowed us to run homebrew...

Thanks a lot firmware hacks, you completely destroyed the scene, with crap that only allows for "backups"(yeah right, fool the other one!) & hacked(read: cheating) games to be run, no genuine homebrew or anything in that line.

Mike4 · « **Reply #36 on:** August 18, 2009, 02:54:00 PM »

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Aug 18 2009, 01:44 PM)

It's totally unproven and thinking about it, would be stupidly risky for MS to implement. At what point does it log the data? There's no warning on screen it's happening so what would happen if the user decided to power down the 360 halfway through a write?

It may not be proven, but it's very likely that something is being logged somewhere other than the HDD or MC. Microsoft definitely wouldn't warn you of it happening and even though you power down the 360, it doesn't necessarily turn off right away - even if it looks like it has. It may be setup in such a way that interrupting it during the write (like if you pulled the plug) wouldn't have any negative effects other than an incomplete log, but it's more likely that the logging happens so fast and only when the disc is inserted that there's no chance of accidentally interrupting it.

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Aug 18 2009, 01:44 PM)

Back OT, going online with a modified drive is not risky at all - the risk comes with the media you put into it. If you choose to leave your network cable connected whilst playing your backups, you run a far greater risk that a second drive wouldn't save you from (which you'd still need to do should you take the notion of an external modified drive, otherwise the entire exercise is useless).

Whilst? Haha. No, you're right, though. I don't know why people still think there's a risk of going online with a modified drive. If that was the case, everyone would have been banned a long time ago. It's purely the disc in the drive.

QUOTE(RRODXbox @ Aug 18 2009, 01:52 PM)

Well, it probably writes tiny amounts of data at the moment you insert the disc. also could explain when you power the 360 down sometimes it will sit there with the fans running for a min or so before shutting off.

I fully agree.

GOVATENT · « **Reply #37 on:** August 18, 2009, 03:09:00 PM »

I want to agree with the people that complain about the current state of 360 "hacking". That's the only reason I have not hacked mine. I won't lose live access just to play backups. As soon as I see some solid homebrew in the future (let it be the distance future that I am still alive in) I will ditch live to get homebrew.

Martinchris23 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 18, 2009, 04:14:00 PM »

QUOTE(RRODXbox @ Aug 18 2009, 08:52 PM)

Well, it probably writes tiny amounts of data at the moment you insert the disc. also could explain when you power the 360 down sometimes it will sit there with the fans running for a min or so before shutting off.

Have you never heard of secdata.bin?

The reason your 360 doesn't turn off straight away is because you've not yet figured out how to disable Background Downloads. I'll give you a hint: It's under System Settings/Console Settings/Startup and Shutdown/Background Downloads. Mine shuts off straight away.

QUOTE(Mike4 @ Aug 18 2009, 09:54 PM)

It may not be proven, but it's very likely that something is being logged somewhere other than the HDD or MC.

Pray tell where ? The NAND is the only IC on the board capable of storing data of any noteworthy size.

I'll solve this nice and easily - I'm going to be dumping my NAND again very soon as I'll be testing the new exploit on an old banned box. I'll run 20 or 30 backups through it (without any dashboard updates) and then dump the NAND again. What's the bet that there are no differences between the two dumps?

Ranger72 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 18, 2009, 04:22:00 PM »

QUOTE(GOVATENT @ Aug 18 2009, 05:09 PM)

I want to agree with the people that complain about the current state of 360 "hacking". That's the only reason I have not hacked mine. I won't lose live access just to play backups. As soon as I see some solid homebrew in the future (let it be the distance future that I am still alive in) I will ditch live to get homebrew.

Have you been reading the news lately? If you have updated your console with the summer update so you can use Live then you have already lost your chance at homebrew. At least for now.

Traviss63 · « **Reply #40 on:** August 18, 2009, 04:25:00 PM »

At first sight I thought this was a Blu-Ray add-on... Damn that woulda been sweet.

dokworm · « **Reply #41 on:** August 18, 2009, 05:44:00 PM »

Can't see how this works?

* Switch between your internal untouched DVD Drive and your external modified DVD Drive.*

How is your internal drive untouched? How did you get the keys etc. for the external one to work? How did you hook it up?

garyopa · « **Reply #42 on:** August 18, 2009, 06:06:00 PM »

QUOTE(alexh @ Aug 18 2009, 03:12 PM)

A DVD-ROM bridge. Basically it sits between the xbox and the DVD-ROM on the SATA connector and intercepts all traffic, effectively replacing patched firmware, no need for key extractors etc.

Does not work.

For one the SATA traffic is encrypted using the key, so you would not be able to sit on the bus and change the traffic without knowing the key to start with.

Useless device, that is why it died on the drawing board years ago.

genoxide · « **Reply #43 on:** August 18, 2009, 06:13:00 PM »

QUOTE(garyopa @ Aug 19 2009, 01:06 AM)

Does not work.

For one the SATA traffic is encrypted using the key, so you would not be able to sit on the bus and change the traffic without knowing the key to start with.

Useless device, that is why it died on the drawing board years ago.

damn..that was cold.. lol

red_ring_of_box · « **Reply #44 on:** August 18, 2009, 06:28:00 PM »

would have been cooler if they had made a kreon drive so we wouldn't have to use 360 drives or certain pc ones to backup our 360 games. I'm assuming that this drive will need to be flashed with your drive key to be operational which leads me to think how do they know what kind of dvd drive you have in your 360? Isn't it impossible to spoof some drives as others? I read on the front page that the drive "Fully supports Hitachi, Samsung, Benq & Liteon" how is this possible? Though the thought of an external kreon that was actually meant to be an external kreon drive really makes me happy.

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