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[Djpj]

I'm lucky i guess, my drive was replaced with a new one from march 2009, and it's flashable!

I have:
HW ver: A0A2
FW ver: 74850C
Model: DG-16D2S

So A0A2 is the latest?

Well i had problems in Jungleflasher after erasing drive, the flash chip properties didn't show up so Write was aborted evertime.
I just turned my drive off and on with CK3 and send device id intro, then everything worked like a charm!

It might be my computer i think

This post has been edited by Djpj: Jun 10 2009, 11:07 AM

[barzi]

QUOTE(Djpj @ Jun 10 2009, 12:06 PM)

I'm lucky i guess, my drive was replaced with a new one from march 2009, and it's flashable!

I have:
HW ver: A0A2
FW ver: 74850C
Model: DG-16D2S

So A0A2 is the latest?

Well i had problems in Jungleflasher after erasing drive, the flash chip properties didn't show up so Write was aborted evertime.
I just turned my drive off and on with CK3 and send device id intro, then everything worked like a charm!

It might be my computer i think

Many people say in this topic that it did work to flash a A0A2, but as you can see above, there are 2 types of A0A2. The one above has a different firmware version then then topic starter.

Maybe it's the firmware 83850c that has problems with flashing.

[Johnny HugeButt]

I was just at some other forum and this was stated:


quote:

I did some research on a German forum and apparently the key of the new Lite-On can be dumped/ read out with a probe like the Xecuter one but you have to use alternative points on the PCB. There arent any specific instructions yet but trying the different contacts on this picture out kind of randomly worked for 4 people in the original thread.

There is no information yet if flashing with that Key and the old firmware works so try that on your own risk because it might not work, the PCB got a different firmware chip revision than the older Lite-On drives.

end quote


So it might not be as bad as it sounds

[warbeast]

QUOTE(Johnny HugeButt @ Jun 10 2009, 11:24 AM)

I was just at some other forum and this was stated:
quote:

I did some research on a German forum and apparently the key of the new Lite-On can be dumped/ read out with a probe like the Xecuter one but you have to use alternative points on the PCB. There arent any specific instructions yet but trying the different contacts on this picture out kind of randomly worked for 4 people in the original thread.

There is no information yet if flashing with that Key and the old firmware works so try that on your own risk because it might not work, the PCB got a different firmware chip revision than the older Lite-On drives.

end quote
So it might not be as bad as it sounds

i cant see how myself if the pcb is the same the layout for tx rx shold be the same unless i've missed somthing

i would think if its a new fw the location of the key may be at a diffent address in the new fw so the current dumping would return a wrong key untill modifed to dump the right address

then again from what i've read so far it looks like it may well be nothing at all hopefully it will be comfirmed to be true or false soon

[DARKFiB3R]

QUOTE(carlitoB @ Jun 10 2009, 08:58 AM)

can i just say that on the picture if you zoom in you can clearly see it is revision B3850C, B at start not 8. I notice that all around the web people are using the wrong code lol

Yes, everybody else is wrong. lol

I see what you are saying, but I think it's just a bad picture. Also, as the last revision started with a "7" it seems likely that this would be an 8 (according to those that know more about this stuff than me).

This post has been edited by DARKFiB3R: Jun 10 2009, 12:47 PM

[sabbath_dude]

QUOTE(carlitoB @ Jun 10 2009, 10:58 AM)

can i just say that on the picture if you zoom in you can clearly see it is revision B3850C, B at start not 8. I notice that all around the web people are using the wrong code lol

If you take another closer look you'll see to the left of the 8 some of the pixels have greyed out making it appear like a B. It's just a low quality pic.

This post has been edited by sabbath_dude: Jun 10 2009, 01:00 PM

[warnos16v]

I have a few A0A2 liteones.

Previously I was worried that they might be different.

But the firmware I have on mine are 74850C

One is even dated 28th April 09 and I modded it without a problem.

Not sure about the firmware I did on that one will have to look at it.. but it worked not problem with jungle flash.. just the usual message you get when doing a A0A2 machine..

The new firmware if it is a problem..must not be being used on all Xbox 360 yet..

This post has been edited by warnos16v: Jun 10 2009, 02:02 PM

[O_oTheGameo_O]

microsoft really stop wasting your money on this bs and make us some AAA games ffs!  

We all know this will/is hacked so stop wasting money.

[alwaysonjohn]

So what did they do with this firmware revision?  If they moved the location of the key then getting 0's would make sense.  any links to places that are talking about this? just dont link me to the firmware download  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by alwaysonjohn: Jun 10 2009, 02:32 PM

[swissjay]

I'm fluent in German (well yeah, I'm Swiss) and although I don't own a 360, I gather from the German thread that the issue seems to be some kind of resin covering the solder points. Some of the guys on that forum suggested scratching the solder points with a needle and reporting success (user hooma1986) after that.

So dunno if you guys can make something of that...

[buttface96]

I am a bit surprised m$ has not implemented any kind of newer un-modable drive yet. But then again they are m$

[BoNg420]

QUOTE(alwaysonjohn @ Jun 10 2009, 09:32 AM)

So what did they do with this firmware revision?  If they moved the location of the key then getting 0's would make sense.  any links to places that are talking about this? just dont link me to the firmware download  

Well if that's the case, they might be able to just change some of the software to be able to find the key.

QUOTE(buttface96 @ Jun 10 2009, 10:14 AM)

I am a bit surprised m$ has not implemented any kind of newer un-modable drive yet. But then again they are m$

Well they made this deal with liteon and moved on from Benq.  So they probably have to buy so many for a contract.  

Think about it, they have tried so much in an effort to stop firmware modding, hitachi 78/79, epoxy on chips, new benq drive, new liteon drive.  All have failed to prevent it.  So what is their next trick up their sleeve?

[Bazdoctor]

QUOTE

Think about it, they have tried so much in an effort to stop firmware modding, hitachi 78/79, epoxy on chips, new benq drive, new liteon drive.  All have failed to prevent it.  So what is their next trick up their sleeve?

Buying some certain people out maybe. The xbox comes to mind.

[vb_encryption_vb]

QUOTE(Djpj @ Jun 10 2009, 06:06 AM)

I'm lucky i guess, my drive was replaced with a new one from march 2009, and it's flashable!

I have:
HW ver: A0A2
FW ver: 74850C
Model: DG-16D2S

So A0A2 is the latest?

Well i had problems in Jungleflasher after erasing drive, the flash chip properties didn't show up so Write was aborted evertime.
I just turned my drive off and on with CK3 and send device id intro, then everything worked like a charm!

It might be my computer i think

I've had the same issue, I think it's the latest version of jungleflasher though being stubborn, that's when I noticed it being a lil pissy from time to time. But power cycling the drive and hitting the device intro seems to work.

[MickRick]

QUOTE(swissjay @ Jun 10 2009, 02:50 PM)

I'm fluent in German (well yeah, I'm Swiss) and although I don't own a 360, I gather from the German thread that the issue seems to be some kind of resin covering the solder points. Some of the guys on that forum suggested scratching the solder points with a needle and reporting success (user hooma1986) after that.

So dunno if you guys can make something of that...

It looks as though the CK3 probe point is clear though.