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[run187]

i think there sod all diffrence, wish i had known about the epoxy before i had to jab probe every where until found place to get key r708 gave me i thougt it was something the previous person had done who had flashed the xbox i was working on it didnt help that i clicked write and not lite on earse (thought it was benq i was tired not best time to do drives)..

[fitsman]

To dump the key and others information from the new liteon drives it need to probe in R707(Like the oldone liteon drives) or the R708?

[X-hacker]

Can you people ACTUALLY READ? Hardware version is the same - Firmware isn't. (Hello, Hitachi 47 & 59?)

The HARDWARE is EXACTLY the same. I had a scan over BOTH PCBs and there is NO difference at all.

People are so quick to jump on the dummy bandwagon. I have already flashed/erased/dumped keys from these new liteons. The procedure is EXACTLY the same.

Seems to me this German guy is a numpty who doesn't know what he's doing. If he's bricked his Wii, god knows what he'll be doing next (too much brutwurst?)

HYPE HYPE HYPE - thats all it is. Just shows how fickle "the mob" is.

[sp71supra]

I think we are ok... I have flashed one of the newer lite-on drives and JF came back with missing data.. I just added it in manually and it was good to go.

[MicroShack]

Well I had 4 new consoles this week with all April 09 liteons in them ...

All 4 reported not finding the data but all flashed fine and worked A1.

[OggyUK]

QUOTE(X-hacker @ Jun 12 2009, 01:20 PM)

Can you people ACTUALLY READ? Hardware version is the same - Firmware isn't. (Hello, Hitachi 47 & 59?)

The HARDWARE is EXACTLY the same. I had a scan over BOTH PCBs and there is NO difference at all.

People are so quick to jump on the dummy bandwagon. I have already flashed/erased/dumped keys from these new liteons. The procedure is EXACTLY the same.

Seems to me this German guy is a numpty who doesn't know what he's doing. If he's bricked his Wii, god knows what he'll be doing next (too much brutwurst?)

HYPE HYPE HYPE - thats all it is. Just shows how fickle "the mob" is.

You've flashed an 83850c fine?

Do you have the dummy.bin from them?

The A0A2 is almost irrelevant to this discussion, ignore it.

The 83850c part is the important part. Its a well known fact A0A2 (74850c) dump/flash fine.

[krizalid]

So, as I understand so far, all we need to do is manually add the Serial data to the dump files in order to create a full stealth ix-1.6 firmware?


Now that I think About it, my friend's new LiteOn asked for this and I did enter it manually, but I never paid attention to the FW revision, and didn't look for differences since it dumped the key just fine.

hmmmm  

[adamscybot]

QUOTE(krizalid @ Jun 12 2009, 08:12 PM)

So, as I understand so far, all we need to do is manually add the Serial data to the dump files in order to create a full stealth ix-1.6 firmware?
Now that I think About it, my friend's new LiteOn asked for this and I did enter it manually, but I never paid attention to the FW revision, and didn't look for differences since it dumped the key just fine.

hmmmm  

It looks that way.

I think jungle flasher was just ahead of the game on this one.

[majinsoftware]

Well I just got one of these drive last night to do. Iv done other A0A2 drives fine but this 83850c one just wouldnt dump a good key. Would try dump it any only get 0000000, keept trying then I got half the key on one try, and the end of it was all CCCCC. So I thought it was my probe and soldered it to make sure it wasnt then started getting 0000 again. then finally I got the other half of the key but with it starting CCCC.

Tryed putting both the half keys I got together but it was still missing 2 characters. Unless the key strangly had a CC in the middle.

Maybe they have made it so the firmware moves the key around after each power on/off. Thats the only way I can explain it because I didnt another normal lite on drive after trying that one for 2 hours with out a problem.
Just had to tell the guy id txt him when I knew more about these drivers.

[LootinGraves]

QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Jun 13 2009, 10:34 AM)

Well I just got one of these drive last night to do. Iv done other A0A2 drives fine but this 83850c one just wouldnt dump a good key. Would try dump it any only get 0000000, keept trying then I got half the key on one try, and the end of it was all CCCCC. So I thought it was my probe and soldered it to make sure it wasnt then started getting 0000 again. then finally I got the other half of the key but with it starting CCCC.

Tryed putting both the half keys I got together but it was still missing 2 characters. Unless the key strangly had a CC in the middle.

Maybe they have made it so the firmware moves the key around after each power on/off. Thats the only way I can explain it because I didnt another normal lite on drive after trying that one for 2 hours with out a problem.
Just had to tell the guy id txt him when I knew more about these drivers.

That kind of sounds like the key in part is being stored dynamically, not entirely though since part of the key shows up and the rest is masked. This would not be by accident either, it's clearly a direct anti-dumping security mechanism put in by Lite-On.

[fitsman]

Others say it is like the old all the procedure others say that is not like the oldone the procedure.
Which one must believe and why?

[majinsoftware]

Just have to wait intill these drives are common before coming to any conclusions.
But dynamically storing the key for anti-dumping protection would be a good reason to update the firmware.
I dont see any other reason to update the base firmware while leaving all the hardware the same.

[xboxmoddude]

I think the reason why people are getting confused here is because some see A0A2 and think they have a new drive. Clearly the 83850c firmware key is not dumpable yet.

[Exobex]

Bearing in mind that the firmware is the same, is it wise to add the serials?  If the serials are missing from the firmware because they forgot to enter them at the refurb factory, surely by filling them in you've now got a mismatch between what your firmware has and what MS thinks it has?  Could be just a lazy sod tabbing through all the boxes on screen instead of either filling them in or barcode-scanning them.  If he's got a wall of 360s waiting for drive prepping, it'd get him through them a bit quicker.

Did an A0A2 again yesterday, read fine with no serial number issues, hence my suspicions about adding what's not there.

[Martinchris23]

QUOTE(Exobex @ Jun 13 2009, 09:58 AM)

Bearing in mind that the firmware is the same, is it wise to add the serials?  If the serials are missing from the firmware because they forgot to enter them at the refurb factory, surely by filling them in you've now got a mismatch between what your firmware has and what MS thinks it has?  Could be just a lazy sod tabbing through all the boxes on screen instead of either filling them in or barcode-scanning them.  If he's got a wall of 360s waiting for drive prepping, it'd get him through them a bit quicker.

Did an A0A2 again yesterday, read fine with no serial number issues, hence my suspicions about adding what's not there.

Was it an A0A2 with 83850c firmware? It should be registered in the jf.log (if that's what you use and save afterwards).

I do agree tho - filling in empty spaces with what JF THINKS should be serial data is dangerous. It's entirely possible that the new version just doesn't have the data there any more.