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[IlyaK]

Anyone?

EDIT: Nevermind, I got it working by making the screws tighter on the heat sinks.

[Jalfrezi]

ive been told to use a heat gun on the chips to resolder the balls then cool and refit

as my xclamp fix lasted approx 3 months then bang went again

there's some good tips about not sure all work


got a new xbox with philips drive so no flashing or chipping for me so the old box needs fixing asap


oh well M$ just keep getting richer

[Arakon]

your washers might simply be too thick, so the heatsinks aren't flush on the die of the chips.
or you damaged the temperature sensor beneath the CPU.. no chance to fix that short of removing the CPU, though.

[swampy1111]

if the heads of the bolts are to thick the board don''t sit corectly on the tray at the bottom and because its raised slightly the cpu heatsink pushes on the top of the case
usually they will work ok until the case is put back on

[turbotronic]

QUOTE(swampy1111 @ Aug 22 2008, 04:35 PM)

if the heads of the bolts are to thick the board don''t sit corectly on the tray at the bottom and because its raised slightly the cpu heatsink pushes on the top of the case
usually they will work ok until the case is put back on

If I have read that correctly, an easy fix for that is to drill the little holes where the factory bolts were for the x-clamps to the size of the bolt heads you have.  I had to use a 13/32 size drill bit.  The bolt head can easily slip into the hole and not snag any if I ever have to remove the motherboard again.

As far as the 3ROL, different methods work for different people.  Some have luck with just removing the x-clamps and applying AS5.  I've seen some put little heatsinks on the RAM that is exposed next to the GPU heatsink.  One member went as far as modifying the GPU heatsink so that it is only a heatsink for the GPU.  They had heatsinks on all four RAM chips.

Have you checked to see what Secondary Error Code you were getting?  That will help you trace down the problem so you may focus on it.

Keep trying.  I know it is very frustrating.  I was able to fix my Xbox 360 (I recieved for free=3ROL) with much ease.  Though, I'm sure it won't last.  I'm currently in the process of fixing my nephew's xbox and it's giving me heck.  His mother isn't too happy with it and plans to get him a PS3 for Christmas.

[dave-9984]

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[Wilhelm_I]

You always have to use 2x 1mm washers or 1x a 2mm washer.
The maximum  height is like 2mm( 3 washers=3mm) otherwise the heatsink wont make any contact because there is a gap in between...

[mark1973]

QUOTE(IlyaK @ Aug 15 2008, 12:09 AM)

Anyone?

EDIT: Nevermind, I got it working by making the screws tighter on the heat sinks.

Check out lawdawgs thead mate and see my added info

I use

screw
2 steel washers
mother board
2 steels washers
heat sink

good luck

[Elmlea]

I've been learning about this repair today, just to have it stored away in case my 360 gives me 3 lights after its 3-year warranty expires.

I'm not entirely sure what you're meant to be doing when you leave it on to overheat.  Are you using the heat generated from a poorly-sinked GPU to melt the solder to "repair itself?"

If so, that's genius, and I can't wait to try it..!

[Wilhelm_I]

QUOTE(Elmlea @ Nov 9 2008, 02:48 AM)

I've been learning about this repair today, just to have it stored away in case my 360 gives me 3 lights after its 3-year warranty expires.

I'm not entirely sure what you're meant to be doing when you leave it on to overheat.  Are you using the heat generated from a poorly-sinked GPU to melt the solder to "repair itself?"

If so, that's genius, and I can't wait to try it..!

You are actually damaging the GPU thats it, dont do that!

When you overheat it the solder will reconnect itself temporarily by flexing/expanding.
Do the X-CLamp replacement and adjust the screws until you get it to work if you still think you have to overheat it in order to get it to work do your xbox a favour and get a heatgun to melt the solder properly, this is the only permanent fix.
It isnt worth damagin it even more for an hour of gameplay...

When it overheats it reaches a max temp of 90°C, to melt the solder you need 218°C, this should make it quite clear even for the last one...

[Elmlea]

QUOTE(Wilhelm_I @ Nov 9 2008, 04:47 PM)

You are actually damaging the GPU thats it, dont do that!

When you overheat it the solder will reconnect itself temporarily by flexing/expanding.
Do the X-CLamp replacement and adjust the screws until you get it to work if you still think you have to overheat it in order to get it to work do your xbox a favour and get a heatgun to melt the solder properly, this is the only permanent fix.

I did think you'd need a higher temperature to melt the solder.  I didn't phrase my question very well!

I was under the impression that the 3RLOD problem meant that the constant heating cycles through the GPU or CPU had caused the solder to flex and crack, breaking a connection somewhere.

How does this X-clamp replacement fix the problem?  What actual problem is it repairing?