Topic: Tutorial: Jimbobjim's GPU Sandwich Method (Read 494 times)

humboldt111502 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 07, 2008, 12:29:00 PM »

QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Aug 7 2008, 07:48 PM)

That looks really good mate. Does it fit back in the chassis though, or will you have to drill some holes in the metal?

it looks like it would fit, but when the board gets screwed down, it might put pressure where the bolts are, unless u use really flat headed ones. thats why i just want to run the bolt all the way from the bottom.

humboldt111502 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 07, 2008, 12:45:00 PM »

QUOTE(card9 @ Aug 7 2008, 07:57 PM)

The more pressure you put from the bottom the more is applied from the top by the heatsink, and in my case hasn't been an issue so far coming up 2 months now. You may want to check if any of the X- clamp arms are touching the caps on the bottom of the board, from the pics they look pretty close which will result in shorts, but it could just be the angle it was taken at.

Okay makes sense, so Ill add a nylon washer before the motherboard and mod the ends of the clamps like you did, except i think it would be easier to use a dremel and cut off wheel to just slice off the ends. Also i just put the xecueter pad next to the little plastic part from the clamps and they look to be the exact same thickness.

card9 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 07, 2008, 12:59:00 PM »

That would definitely speed up the hook removal.
Hope it works out for you.

Onimu · « **Reply #33 on:** August 07, 2008, 02:52:00 PM »

Creative Method Jimbo..

I'm think to place a Nylon washer instead metal between xclamp and board can create softer pressure. Also, using humboldt pads cause little more back pressure then those ram pads.

Onimu · « **Reply #34 on:** August 08, 2008, 02:51:00 AM »

I sorry to say this.. I just try one of my 3rod w/error 0102. First of all, I heat gun it for 10 min and let it cool about 40 to 45min and then, used this method. After that, I put it back to case and screw back the little screws on those 8 legs of CPU and GPU.. And then, i power up, it give green light

. So, I shut it off to connect my dvd drive back to test it. It give three again right after i power up. I don't know, how come my xbox360 don't like xclamp anymore, It could last about a week with screws, nylon and metal washers after heat gun it.

tr1pp1n · « **Reply #35 on:** August 22, 2008, 10:32:00 PM »

this looks like a great fix Jimbobjim, my question is would you recommend this over all other x clamp fix methods, my 360 just RRoD'd and i was thinkin about using lawdawg's method until I saw this... would the longevity of this method be greater than the other popular methods?

tr1pp1n · « **Reply #36 on:** August 26, 2008, 12:38:00 AM »

i hate to bump this but i haven't seen much feedback and from the explanation it appears to be the best method (on paper anyways) anyone using this that has had good results?

jimbobjim · « **Reply #37 on:** August 26, 2008, 02:59:00 AM »

QUOTE(tr1pp1n @ Aug 26 2008, 08:14 AM)

i hate to bump this but i haven't seen much feedback and from the explanation it appears to be the best method (on paper anyways) anyone using this that has had good results?

Sorry, I missed your last post. I can't really say for sure that it's better than Lawdawgs method as it isn't truely time tested yet. However, my console is still working 100% after three weeks.

tr1pp1n · « **Reply #38 on:** August 26, 2008, 08:08:00 AM »

ya it seems like many people are hesitant to use the x-clamps but the method looks good, will try today and post my results, thanks for the tutorial!

tr1pp1n · « **Reply #39 on:** September 06, 2008, 01:31:00 AM »

well i never reported back like i said i would but i had trouble for about a little bit getting the xclamps to sit with the washed between it and the board... but i can say after a week of extensive play i havent even had the slightest hickup, and i think jimbobs method could be the "permanent fix" people have been seeking... if you have the ram thermal pads + non-misshapen xclamps + the bolts give this a try

jimbobjim · « **Reply #40 on:** September 06, 2008, 01:43:00 AM »

Glad to hear that mate

I hope it keeps on working. Your washers must be slightly fatter than mine as I don't really have much of a problem putting the clamps back on.

Mine is still going strong after a month and has had zero lockups/glitches.

kope · « **Reply #41 on:** September 11, 2008, 08:57:00 AM »

would it make sense to try this method without the thermal pads?
dont have any...

else i'll give wilhelms method a try!

Wilhelm_I · « **Reply #42 on:** September 11, 2008, 10:39:00 AM »

QUOTE(kope @ Sep 11 2008, 05:33 PM)

would it make sense to try this method without the thermal pads?
dont have any...

else i'll give wilhelms method a try!

Without the pads the method would pretty much make no sense since it will just be a regular x-clamp...
To do that you will definitely need one of the pads, this is the major difference...

This post has been edited by Wilhelm_I: Sep 11 2008, 05:40 PM

jimbobjim · « **Reply #43 on:** September 21, 2008, 03:17:00 AM »

**UPDATE** My Xbox is DEAD again

Oh well guys, looks like it's back to the drawing board. To be fair, my console had been "fixed" in the past, so this test was not done with a newly broken console.

I hope those of you that have tried my method have no problems and can leave updates as to how your machine is going.

A moment of silence please.

Professor_Xbox · « **Reply #44 on:** September 21, 2008, 05:50:00 AM »

QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Sep 21 2008, 10:53 AM)

**UPDATE** My Xbox is DEAD again

Oh well guys, looks like it's back to the drawing board.

Well, there's a surprise!

The MS x-clamp doesn't have the force to bow the motherboard upwards in the first place. The reason it fails is for several reasons. Firstly when MS used the thermal pad they couldn't use bolts to hold the heatsinks down since the thermal pad is of variable thickness so needed a solution that provided constant pressure at variable height. That's why the x-clamps have a certain spring in them. Secondly the thermal pad is a terrible conductor of heat. Thirdly, some genius at MS thought it best to put a tiny GPU heatsink on and cover it with a DVD player and minimal airflow. Genius! And of course, finally, they used a BGA chip cos it was cheaper than pins.

If they'd ponied up the dough and put a decent thermal paste on they could have bolted the heatsinks down but I guess manufacturing costs prohibited that. Bear in mind this is a console that is half the price of a PS3 (yes, I know MS doesn't have Blu-ray but even so!)

The reason this fix kinda works for a while is cos you are putting a little more pressure on the chips by adding the extra washers but it doesn't last cos you still have ye'olde thermal pad and the clamps just don't provide enough... clamp!

What you need jimbobjim, is one of these; X Clamp Fix Kits

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