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[jimbobjim]

The only place you can really get the ram pads from is consoles themselves. Luckily each console that has them has four, so you can use two to fix it and put the other 2 aside for a later date.

I'll have a search around the net today to see if I can find a suitable substitute.

[Majestic008]

hello.

i keep seeing these methods trying the "Permanent fix" for the RROD problem warp'age and i have to ask this:


i do like jimbobjim's method a lot and i find it easier than that of the xclamp removal fix.
he also pointed out in his picture how the xclamp fix is really not a fix. a bit shocking but true.

considering the new falcons have the new GPU heatsink are these methods necessary? the new GPU heatsink transfers the heat from the big heatsink to the small one using the pipe it has thereby losing almost all the heat that causes the solder to become loose.
am i correct?

[Wilhelm_I]

QUOTE(Majestic008 @ Aug 6 2008, 05:42 PM)

hello.

i keep seeing these methods trying the "Permanent fix" for the RROD problem warp'age and i have to ask this:
i do like jimbobjim's method a lot and i find it easier than that of the xclamp removal fix.
he also pointed out in his picture how the xclamp fix is really not a fix. a bit shocking but true.

considering the new falcons have the new GPU heatsink are these methods necessary? the new GPU heatsink transfers the heat from the big heatsink to the small one using the pipe it has thereby losing almost all the heat that causes the solder to become loose.
am i correct?

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=655662

[bonzof.pl]

QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Aug 6 2008, 11:33 AM)

, so you can use two to fix it and put the other 2 aside for a later date.

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[jimbobjim]

QUOTE(Majestic008 @ Aug 6 2008, 04:42 PM)

considering the new falcons have the new GPU heatsink are these methods necessary? the new GPU heatsink transfers the heat from the big heatsink to the small one using the pipe it has thereby losing almost all the heat that causes the solder to become loose.
am i correct?

Unfortunately the New GPU heatsink is just another failed bandaid from Microsoft. Two of the three consoles I repaired with my method where elites with zephyr boards and the extended heatsink. Infact, my main machine that i'm using everyday to test my fix is one of those two.

As far as the GPU side goes, xenons, zephyrs and falcons are all the same.

Perhaps Jasper will be microsofts first reliable board.

Just want to add, my main console first died about a month ago so I did lawdawgs x-clamp relacement on it, after two weeks it died again. I then over heated it and tightened the screws... it lasted 24 hours. This is why I came up with this new method.

This post has been edited by jimbobjim: Aug 6 2008, 04:47 PM

[Majestic008]

QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Aug 6 2008, 08:16 PM)

Unfortunately the New GPU heatsink is just another failed bandaid from Microsoft. Two of the three consoles I repaired with my method where elites with zephyr boards and the extended heatsink. Infact, my main machine that i'm using everyday to test my fix is one of those two.

As far as the GPU side goes, xenons, zephyrs and falcons are all the same.

Perhaps Jasper will be microsofts first reliable board.

Just want to add, my main console first died about a month ago so I did lawdawgs x-clamp relacement on it, after two weeks it died again. I then over heated it and tightened the screws... it lasted 24 hours. This is why I came up with this new method.

thanks Jimbobjim.

I will try your method on my new elite (manufacture date: april 2008) and will update this thread with success or failure.

i will also video document it so if it does work i will upload it to youtube giving full credit to you of course.

[jimbobjim]

Does your elite have the ring of death? if not then it might be best to wait a bit to see if my fix stands the test of time. I'd hate for you to mess your console up cos of me

I'm quite happy that you won't make your console worse by doing it so it's up to you mate.

[Majestic008]

QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Aug 6 2008, 08:53 PM)

Does your elite have the ring of death? if not then it might be best to wait a bit to see if my fix stands the test of time. I'd hate for you to mess your console up cos of me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'm quite happy that you won't make your console worse by doing it so it's up to you mate.

no. my console doesnt have the RROD or any issues at the moment.

i've been hammering it with GTA4 for the last 2 days and its been OK.

so you think i should leave it alone?

[jimbobjim]

Entirely up to you.

[humboldt111502]

QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Aug 6 2008, 10:33 AM)

The only place you can really get the ram pads from is consoles themselves. Luckily each console that has them has four, so you can use two to fix it and put the other 2 aside for a later date.

I'll have a search around the net today to see if I can find a suitable substitute.

How about those pads that come with the xecuter rrod fix it kit?  I bought one of the wholesale kits to try out, but maybe they would be better for this.   they are a little thinner than the stock ones, but more dense material.

How bout this idea...combine RBJtech's method with the 2 newer ideas....


- screw
- metal case
- modded xclamps w plastic removed and pad added
- 1 washer (not sure if this one is needed)
- motherboard
- 2 washers
- heatsink

and this would also be combined with the litthe pieces of credit card around the dies to even pressure from the top.   Im also thinkin that maybe the credit card pieces could be glued or use a dab of thermal paste instead of tape, i dunno.

[jimbobjim]

humboldt111502, could you draw that for us? I can't see it working to be honest. If you're using screws, what will the x-clamps attach to?

I couldn't really say if the xecuter pads would work as i've only seen em in pics.

This post has been edited by jimbobjim: Aug 7 2008, 09:58 AM

[card9]

He may be modifying the X-clamp the way I have done it but not entirely sure. here is the link to my fix.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=656367

[humboldt111502]

i didnt bend any part of the x-clamp because then i was scared it might put too much pressure from the bottom.  I just removed the plastic from the middle, added the xecuter ram pad, and then secured it back down to the board using the m5 bolts.  The bolts go right thru and seem to hold up well, putting even pressure on the middle, while also providing a more sturdy hold than the little stock screws.  I have only experimented on a dead motherboard.  Ill experiment with a 0102 360 today and see what happens.  First I planned on heatgunning the unit, then ill try this new xclamp hybrid mod.  ill take the best pics I can along the way.   hopefully this works

here are some pics of what it looks like bolted directly to the board, later i will bolt it thru the bottom of the  case:

(IMG:http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6210/dscf0461od8.jpg)


(IMG:http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3073/dscf0466bb1.jpg)

here are the xecuter pads used....

(IMG:http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3367/dscf0467bb8.jpg)


(IMG:http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2636/dscf0471dw7.jpg)


(IMG:http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1672/dscf0472wb3.jpg)


then on the top, u put 2 washers then the heatsink with the chopped up credit card pieces around the cpu/gpu to even pressure from the top.  im not the best at making those computer drawings, but with my pics do u get my idea?

[jimbobjim]

That looks really good mate. Does it fit back in the chassis though, or will you have to drill some holes in the metal?

[card9]

The more pressure you put from the bottom the more is applied from the top by the heatsink, and in my case hasn't been an issue so far coming up 2 months now. You may want to check if any of the X- clamp arms are touching the caps on the bottom of the board, from the pics they look pretty close which will result in shorts, but it could just be the angle it was taken at.