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[Chydog]

Hey I had a topic about this but I'm gonna start posting in here instead. I went out and got all the parts yesterday, put everything on hoping to have it fixed but still nothing. I started off with 1 red light and error E74, then I kept getting two red lights immediately after turning it on (which means it is overheating correct? and since it shuts itself off when I get two red lights how can it overheat when it can't even turn on?) Now I'm getting 1 red light and it will stay on for a couple of seconds but then it will supposedly overheat and the two red lights will come back. Does that mean I'm close to fixing it? But I did read in your tutorial that if it didn't work I would have to use a heat gun on it, so I'm probably going to go out and buy a heat gun tomorrow and try that out. I'm just wondering why I keep getting these two red lights? Did this happen to anybody else when they were fixing theirs?

[Wilhelm_I]

QUOTE(Chydog @ Aug 12 2008, 11:57 AM)

Hey I had a topic about this but I'm gonna start posting in here instead. I went out and got all the parts yesterday, put everything on hoping to have it fixed but still nothing. I started off with 1 red light and error E74, then I kept getting two red lights immediately after turning it on (which means it is overheating correct? and since it shuts itself off when I get two red lights how can it overheat when it can't even turn on?) Now I'm getting 1 red light and it will stay on for a couple of seconds but then it will supposedly overheat and the two red lights will come back. Does that mean I'm close to fixing it? But I did read in your tutorial that if it didn't work I would have to use a heat gun on it, so I'm probably going to go out and buy a heat gun tomorrow and try that out. I'm just wondering why I keep getting these two red lights? Did this happen to anybody else when they were fixing theirs?

Your creditcard pieces are too thick so the chip die isnt making good contact with the heatsink.
Try to get a thinner card then it should work(I assume that your washers arent thicker than 2mm at all(either use 2x 1mm thick washers or 1x a 2mm thick washer) because this can be a reason as well).
If it still doesnt work then you can still get a heatgun...

[bosnia_9]

QUOTE(Chydog @ Aug 12 2008, 05:57 AM)

Hey I had a topic about this but I'm gonna start posting in here instead. I went out and got all the parts yesterday, put everything on hoping to have it fixed but still nothing. I started off with 1 red light and error E74, then I kept getting two red lights immediately after turning it on (which means it is overheating correct? and since it shuts itself off when I get two red lights how can it overheat when it can't even turn on?) Now I'm getting 1 red light and it will stay on for a couple of seconds but then it will supposedly overheat and the two red lights will come back. Does that mean I'm close to fixing it? But I did read in your tutorial that if it didn't work I would have to use a heat gun on it, so I'm probably going to go out and buy a heat gun tomorrow and try that out. I'm just wondering why I keep getting these two red lights? Did this happen to anybody else when they were fixing theirs?

just use nylon washers, dont use metal ones.. i had the same issue.. its the spacing your CPU isnt making good contact with the heatsink

so basically if you used the correct  hardware for the fix..
Youd have

SCREW - metal washer - nylon washer - mobo - nylon washer - metal washer - heatsink

you want

SCREW - nylon washer - mobo - nylon washer - heatsink

now you can use that setup for both the GPU and CPU to avoid bending of the mobo, but you can try it on the CPU itself.

[Chydog]

I'm pretty sure the card is the right size but what tape did you use?

And I tried both of these methods in the guide:

http://xe.brothersof...schema_en_b.jpg

http://xe.brothersof...chema_en2_b.jpg

But after comparing the metal washers to the nylon washers, I'm pretty sure the nylon washers I got are 2 mm. So I'm going to just try it with the nylon washers on and see how that goes.

[Chydog]

Ok I just tried it with just the nylon washers and it is giving me the 1 red light now. Back where I started again    But this is the first time I've gotten something other than the 2 red lights since taking it apart, so I know I successfully replaced the X-clamps. Feels good to finally have done something right lol.  Couldn't have done that without your help guys but I'm still getting the E74 error. I didn't realize the measurements had to be that exact. That would also explain why my credit card pieces were useless, so I'm going to put those back on and try that out and if that doesn't work I suppose I'll have to get a heatgun?

[Wilhelm_I]

QUOTE(bosnia_9 @ Aug 12 2008, 06:18 PM)

just use nylon washers, dont use metal ones.. i had the same issue.. its the spacing your CPU isnt making good contact with the heatsink

so basically if you used the correct  hardware for the fix..
Youd have

SCREW - metal washer - nylon washer - mobo - nylon washer - metal washer - heatsink

you want

SCREW - nylon washer - mobo - nylon washer - heatsink

now you can use that setup for both the GPU and CPU to avoid bending of the mobo, but you can try it on the CPU itself.

Using two washers under the mobo is pointless one is enough and as I said before already the number of washers that you have to use in between mobo and heatsink depends on the thickness of the washers, if you have 1mm thick washers use 2 if yours are 2mm thick only use one!

QUOTE(Chydog @ Aug 12 2008, 08:45 PM)

I'm pretty sure the card is the right size but what tape did you use?

And I tried both of these methods in the guide:

http://xe.brothersof...schema_en_b.jpg

http://xe.brothersof...chema_en2_b.jpg

But after comparing the metal washers to the nylon washers, I'm pretty sure the nylon washers I got are 2 mm. So I'm going to just try it with the nylon washers on and see how that goes.

Yes only use 1 of the 2mm nylons in between.
And use tape that is as thin as possible, thick electric tape can already be too thick and prevent the heatsink from making good contact...

[bosnia_9]

QUOTE(bosnia_9 @ Aug 12 2008, 12:18 PM)

just use nylon washers, dont use metal ones.. i had the same issue.. its the spacing your CPU isnt making good contact with the heatsink

so basically if you used the correct  hardware for the fix..
Youd have

SCREW - metal washer - nylon washer - mobo - nylon washer - metal washer - heatsink

you want

SCREW - nylon washer - mobo - nylon washer - heatsink

now you can use that setup for both the GPU and CPU to avoid bending of the mobo, but you can try it on the CPU itself.

QUOTE(Wilhelm_I @ Aug 12 2008, 03:16 PM)

Using two washers under the mobo is pointless one is enough and as I said before already the number of washers that you have to use in between mobo and heatsink depends on the thickness of the washers, if you have 1mm thick washers use 2 if yours are 2mm thick only use one!

hence the RED which would all relate to the correct thickness

[Wilhelm_I]

QUOTE(bosnia_9 @ Aug 12 2008, 09:30 PM)

hence the RED which would all relate to the correct thickness

Ah alright I apologize for that, I should have known better that you are not like that, lol.
Using two washers under the mobo is just unnecessary though, one is enough...

[Chydog]

Holy shit it worked. It makes sense when I think about it but I have never fixed anything before so I really didn't expect it to, but after getting all the measurements right and putting the credit card pieces back in it started up just fine. You don't know how happy I am    Thank you so much for the help guys but I have one more question. How long do you think this will last?

[Chydog]

Ok I guess I found out how long it will last    I thought I had it fixed, had just the motherboard out and I was running it for a couple of seconds, it took me to the dashboard and everything, then I turned it off and started to put it back into the metal casing. Plugged in the fans and DVD drive and everything, tried to start it up again, and got the E74 once again    I know I'm doing something right though so I'll try to tighten/loosen the screws and stuff and see what happens.

[Vendeta]

It appeares I am getting same error now. I am getting RROD with secondary error 0102.

So going to try this: http://xe.brothersof...php?n=xclampeng

After I have replaced the heatsinks, must I let it over heat, tighten screws and cool down and try again?


Thanks!

[ltkerr0r]

QUOTE(Vendeta @ Aug 12 2008, 05:23 PM)

It appeares I am getting same error now. I am getting RROD with secondary error 0102.

So going to try this: http://xe.brothersof...php?n=xclampeng

After I have replaced the heatsinks, must I let it over heat, tighten screws and cool down and try again?
Thanks!

You only need to do those things if it didn't work the first time. For me I had the screws tightened all the way and had to let it overheat.

[Vendeta]

Well, what do you know!  

Xbox now fully working! I tried the normal route of the x-clamp fixed, and it didn't work. Even when I overheated it.

So I added my small bits of card. Turned it on and let it overheat as it was now giving a 0102 code ( Cold soldering? )

2:30mins it overheated.

Turned off, tightened bolts some more. Turn back on and walla, its working!!



But for how long...

Now before I put it back together. What can I mod to make it cool better? Original fan shroud thingy is missing, so I made my own out of plastic. Anything else I can do to keep gpu cooler?

Thanks!

[ltkerr0r]

QUOTE(Vendeta @ Aug 12 2008, 07:28 PM)

Now before I put it back together. What can I mod to make it cool better? Original fan shroud thingy is missing, so I made my own out of plastic. Anything else I can do to keep gpu cooler?

Crank the fans to 12v. But this will make your 360 a lot louder. Seal your shroud to the heat sink with tape.
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=467270

[Vendeta]

Well, as I said. The original shrud is missing. So I made a new one. However I am going to remake it like that one.

Thank you for the pictures. Much appreciated!