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[dallasmilton318]

I think it's about dang time they overhauled the intercooler. Ill definately buy one if its on its own psu, but not sure bout temp control, hope thats not automatic. I LIKE CONTROL. lol

[soopahfly]

Save your cash, and don't bother.  Fans on fans is a very bad idea.
That and look at the mess the original ones made to your box.  Melted power socket anyone?

[HotKnife420]

Intercooler: Killing 360's that the RRoD misses since 2005!

[chronno]

QUOTE(shleeb @ Jul 10 2008, 07:38 PM)

i don't get it..heating shouldn't be that much of a problem anymore?  I remember it was with launch systems, but uhh, it's 3 years after the fact now

There's a cooling unit for the Wii.  They make units for anything.  Have you ever heard of a Wii overheating?

"and additional assets will be revealed during E3"

Like noise reduction?  Mines twice as loud as the 360 alone.

[XBOXIZGOOD]

QUOTE(dallasmilton318 @ Jul 10 2008, 06:57 PM)

I think it's about dang time they overhauled the intercooler. Ill definately buy one if its on its own psu, but not sure bout temp control, hope thats not automatic. I LIKE CONTROL. lol

The Intec Turbo Cooler is just like the Intercooler, but has it's own PSU. $11.99 at buy.com.

QUOTE(soopahfly @ Jul 10 2008, 06:59 PM)

Save your cash, and don't bother.  Fans on fans is a very bad idea.
That and look at the mess the original ones made to your box.  Melted power socket anyone?

You're right about fan stacking, but only if the additional fans don't have more CFM than the original ones. The stock fans run at 5v, while the 3 additional on the Intercooler/Turbo Cooler run at 12v. That, and they fans aren't stacked right on top of the the others, as there is quite a big game between them. That's why these coolers ARE effective.

QUOTE(chronno @ Jul 10 2008, 08:44 PM)

There's a cooling unit for the Wii.  They make units for anything.  Have you ever heard of a Wii overheating?

"and additional assets will be revealed during E3"

Like noise reduction?  Mines twice as loud as the 360 alone.

I've seen the Wii get pretty damn hot, which is surprising since the technology was fine in the GameCube.

[XBOXIZGOOD]

I don't like the sound of Nyko's "temperature control tecnology". This is pretty much going to be an Intercooler with a 12v psu, and sensors that let the Intercooler come on when temps get high. Ok, that would be good if the Intercooler allowed for good airflow OUT of the system while off, but it's gonna block the exhaust and keep heat in. They need to just follow Intec's lead here.

[dallasmilton318]

QUOTE(XBOXIZGOOD @ Jul 10 2008, 05:13 PM)

I don't like the sound of Nyko's "temperature control tecnology". This is pretty much going to be an Intercooler with a 12v psu, and sensors that let the Intercooler come on when temps get high. Ok, that would be good if the Intercooler allowed for good airflow OUT of the system while off, but it's gonna block the exhaust and keep heat in. They need to just follow Intec's lead here.

 
This is what I meant in my first post. I dont want automatic temp control but I do want a design like the Intec on its own psu. I have a intec and it does mave a fair amount of air and keep my 360 abit cooler but the Nyko seemed to keep it coolest I just didnt like the passthrough and thats why I modded it to run on its own psu. Its just ugly. lol I suspect the Nyko moves a bit more air than the Intec because of my psu its on not because its supperior or nothing. I want the same intercooler just its own psu. I can testify to the fact it does keep the unit far cooler than running without. I wont argue with intercooler haters on the stack idea because their facts are a bit flawed IMO. I am a certified pc tech and have a fair amount of knowledge on fans and I see where they get their ideas from but in the real world test they do what they were designed to do and rather well. But this has obviously been discussed and debated in many other threads on here so I wont argue. The only reason the Intercooler got a bad name was because of the dang passthrough IMO and without that it is a good product at least for the older 360's anyway. I like the intercooler for an aftercooler mostly of all.

[XBOXIZGOOD]

QUOTE(dallasmilton318 @ Jul 10 2008, 11:05 PM)

This is what I meant in my first post. I dont want automatic temp control but I do want a design like the Intec on its own psu. I have a intec and it does mave a fair amount of air and keep my 360 abit cooler but the Nyko seemed to keep it coolest I just didnt like the passthrough and thats why I modded it to run on its own psu. Its just ugly. lol I suspect the Nyko moves a bit more air than the Intec because of my psu its on not because its supperior or nothing. I want the same intercooler just its own psu. I can testify to the fact it does keep the unit far cooler than running without. I wont argue with intercooler haters on the stack idea because their facts are a bit flawed IMO. I am a certified pc tech and have a fair amount of knowledge on fans and I see where they get their ideas from but in the real world test they do what they were designed to do and rather well. But this has obviously been discussed and debated in many other threads on here so I wont argue. The only reason the Intercooler got a bad name was because of the dang passthrough IMO and without that it is a good product at least for the older 360's anyway. I like the intercooler for an aftercooler mostly of all.

If you want your Intec to move more air, ditch the crappy AC/DC adapter and get a 500ma DC adapter. It moves a ton more air with a DC adapter of the same ma. Works just as good as the Intercooler using the passthrough.

[XBOXIZGOOD]

QUOTE(trentdadi @ Jul 11 2008, 02:46 AM)

I am not a fan at all of 3rd party peripherals.  They just seem like cheap immitations of the real thing, and the intercoolers really are unnecessary and ugly to boot.

The Intercooler type devices provide more airflow in and out of the console. With the 360, that's totally necessary.

[dallasmilton318]

QUOTE(XBOXIZGOOD @ Jul 10 2008, 10:23 PM)

The Intercooler type devices provide more airflow in and out of the console. With the 360, that's totally necessary.

Agreed, and there are plenty of tests that confirm they work. Hell even IGN said there only working launch unit was sporting a intercooler. Coincedence, I dont think so.  And I will take your advice and try a different adapter its just common sence it will work better. Kudos on the idea man thanks.

[scuba156]

actually, i see this as the BEST intercooler yet.

with it running of its own PSU, it should allow for the intercooler to run with the console turned off. the best thing that will save your console is exactly that, allowing it to adequately cool down after usage in stead of the heat being trapped and cooling down at a very slow speed (one of the main causes of the 3ROD)

i would fully back this product and recommend people to use it over anything else.

the only thing i think they should include is a timer, in which the fans will shut off after the specified time. this would allow people to set the timer, turn off there console and walk away.

[dallasmilton318]

QUOTE(Bandit5317 @ Jul 11 2008, 04:23 AM)

Why do you guys think the intercooler moves more air when running off of its own PSU? The pass-through connection allows it to draw power from the 360 PSU's 12v rail, so replacing that with its own 12v adaptor WILL NOT increase fan speed, and, therefore, WON'T INCREASE AIR MOVEMENT because it's the same voltage. Unless your trying to make the case that the 360's PSU doesn't have enough amps to run both the 360 and the Intercooler, which is also completely ridiculous. Here is a link to an article which clearly states that the maximum power consumption for the 360 (in games) is a maximum of 186.5 watts, while the 360's PSU supports 203 watts. That's 16.5 watts of spare power, while the intercooler's fans only use a total of 4.68 watts, but if you don't believe the math, look at a modded 360 like Dano2k0's internal liquid cooling job. He's running a liquid cooling pump, fans for the radiator, and leds all off of the stock PSU. The only thing a seperate PSU is good for is letting the fans stay on after the 360 is off. Sorry if I seem a little blunt, but I've heard this claim that a seperate PSU will increase airflow many times and have seen absolutely no proof to back it up.

I understand what you are saying but for whatever reason switching my Intec cooler off its own 12v 500ma psu to one I found in my basement thats 12v 1a it hauls ass moving a ton more air. I believe the key here is "ma" . The cooler will only draw what it needs which is 12v but not sure about ma. It just works better and I am now very pleased with the performance of this cooler. It sucked a napkin to the side of my 360 like a vac cleaner and held it there till i turned the cooler off. It never did that before. In the words of Tim Allen "NOW THATS MORE POWER" grunt lol  

[XBOXIZGOOD]

QUOTE(scuba156 @ Jul 11 2008, 11:52 AM)

actually, i see this as the BEST intercooler yet.

with it running of its own PSU, it should allow for the intercooler to run with the console turned off. the best thing that will save your console is exactly that, allowing it to adequately cool down after usage in stead of the heat being trapped and cooling down at a very slow speed (one of the main causes of the 3ROD)

i would fully back this product and recommend people to use it over anything else.

the only thing i think they should include is a timer, in which the fans will shut off after the specified time. this would allow people to set the timer, turn off there console and walk away.

The Intec Turbo Cooler is out now, and works great. Doesn't have a timer or heat sensors, but it works just as well as the Intercooler without the worry of it frying something.

@Dallasmilton318: I just got my white Turbo Cooler yesterday(had a black one on a white system)and the fans are the same, and the AC/DC adapter is the same, but for some reason these fans haul much more ass. I'm wondering if the adapter that came with my black one was bad?

QUOTE(Bandit5317 @ Jul 11 2008, 09:23 AM)

Why do you guys think the intercooler moves more air when running off of its own PSU? The pass-through connection allows it to draw power from the 360 PSU's 12v rail, so replacing that with its own 12v adaptor WILL NOT increase fan speed, and, therefore, WON'T INCREASE AIR MOVEMENT because it's the same voltage. Unless your trying to make the case that the 360's PSU doesn't have enough amps to run both the 360 and the Intercooler, which is also completely ridiculous. Here is a link to an article which clearly states that the maximum power consumption for the 360 (in games) is a maximum of 186.5 watts, while the 360's PSU supports 203 watts. That's 16.5 watts of spare power, while the intercooler's fans only use a total of 4.68 watts, but if you don't believe the math, look at a modded 360 like Dano2k0's internal liquid cooling job. He's running a liquid cooling pump, fans for the radiator, and leds all off of the stock PSU. The only thing a seperate PSU is good for is letting the fans stay on after the 360 is off. Sorry if I seem a little blunt, but I've heard this claim that a seperate PSU will increase airflow many times and have seen absolutely no proof to back it up.

I don't me or Dallasmilton318 were saying running the Intercooler of it's own PSU increased airflow over running it with the 360 passthrough. We were talking about using different adapters. A DC adapter rated at 500ma powers the fans much better than the ac/dc adapter that comes with the Intec Turbo Cooler.