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Squeakk

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« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2008, 06:05:00 PM »

Thank you so much, got a heat gun today, heat gunned gpu, cpu, and rams. did it for like 3 minutes then herd popping sounds, my friend and I were like someone making pop corn? I let it sit for about an hour then re did x-clamps fix worked perfect. I thank you, know I am gonna move onto modding my elite with lights and more fans. I even have a temp guage (just used talismoon put the thermometer into heatsink, hit over 110 degrees F)
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Wilhelm_I

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« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2008, 06:18:00 PM »

QUOTE(Squeakk @ Jun 28 2008, 02:41 AM) View Post

Thank you so much, got a heat gun today, heat gunned gpu, cpu, and rams. did it for like 3 minutes then herd popping sounds, my friend and I were like someone making pop corn? I let it sit for about an hour then re did x-clamps fix worked perfect. I thank you, know I am gonna move onto modding my elite with lights and more fans. I even have a temp guage (just used talismoon put the thermometer into heatsink, hit over 110 degrees F)

Am glad it worked for you
Check the big caps make sure they havent blown or something.
Which foil did you use?
Was it a really thick foil with these air reservoirs if so ignore the first sentence about the caps...
If the caps are really blown you will have to replace them but since the 360 is working I dont think they are really fucked up
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Squeakk

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« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2008, 06:57:00 PM »

Yes, I booted/rebooted my 360 about 8 times, works flawlessly.

I used 2mm drop sheets used for painting (cover floors and furniture so paint doesn't go on it)
Taped down with electrical tape, then covered up with aluminum foil. Heated on 1st setting for a minute then 2nd setting for about 3 minutes then I herd a light popping sound, stopped tore open foil and drop sheets and then let it sit for about an hour.
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Wilhelm_I

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« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2008, 01:19:00 AM »

Should be alright then...

I figured something else out the hard way yesterday.
Make sure that the aluminum foil isnt too close to the chips/under the chips because as soon as the solder reflowed it will lift the RAM chip up and you are fucked.
So make sure the isolation is always like 1cm away from the chip then it will be alright.
Could kick myself in the arse for that though,
Ah yeah and something else dont heatgun the board for longer than 5 minutes or the isolation wont work properly anymore.
I heatgunned this one for like 7 minutes cause the sucked wouldnt reflow properly and in minute 7 the plastic went on fire.
The caps are okay though and the board is working besides the fact that it is showing 0020 because of the shorted out RAM.
Does anyone have an idea how to get this back on properly^^

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1ic1

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« Reply #49 on: June 29, 2008, 11:45:00 PM »

can you plz reupload the pictures?

thanx smile.gif
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Wilhelm_I

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« Reply #50 on: June 30, 2008, 01:36:00 AM »

QUOTE(1ic1 @ Jun 30 2008, 08:21 AM) View Post

can you plz reupload the pictures?

thanx smile.gif

I only got like 1GB traffic on this server so at the end of the month they suspend it...
I posted the pictures a bit below from another host but the moderators wouldnt replace mine even though I reported it....
So just scroll down...
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1ic1

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« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2008, 02:10:00 AM »

can someone please post a video on here or youtube im to scared to f*ck up my 360  tongue.gif
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« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2008, 03:04:00 AM »

QUOTE(1ic1 @ Jun 30 2008, 12:46 AM) *

can someone please post a video on here or youtube im to scared to f*ck up my 360  tongue.gif


think of it this way. your xbox is already fucked up.  you can give M$ about $100 - $120, that's if you haven't voided the warranty yet.  

Or spend about $15 for tools and xclamp hardware.  Not including the fact that you'll have to pickup a heatgun, considering the smart thing to do is return it afterwards.

Or do nothing and still have a broken xbox.

as for videos, it's hard to say because the temperature of each heatgun varies.  Just take wilhelm's word for it.  Make sure you read this entire thread as there's a lot to learn about how to do it right and wrong.


Question:

Based of the secondary codes, is it necessary to heat up the cpu / gpu / and scaler chip?  For instance I looked up my code and found out it's the connection between the gpu and the scaler chip, so is it necessary to heat up the entire board?  

Reason is that there's a lot more capacitors near the cpu and I'd like to keep the heat away from that area if possible.  Just curious if you treat all E74s and RROD the same and do the entire area, or if based by the secondary code you only heat up a particular area which is causing the error.
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Wilhelm_I

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« Reply #53 on: June 30, 2008, 09:08:00 AM »

QUOTE(hueyduey02 @ Jun 30 2008, 11:40 AM) View Post

Based of the secondary codes, is it necessary to heat up the cpu / gpu / and scaler chip?  For instance I looked up my code and found out it's the connection between the gpu and the scaler chip, so is it necessary to heat up the entire board?  

Reason is that there's a lot more capacitors near the cpu and I'd like to keep the heat away from that area if possible.  Just curious if you treat all E74s and RROD the same and do the entire area, or if based by the secondary code you only heat up a particular area which is causing the error.

The FAQ isnt always right so which error code are you talking about?
I always only concentrate on the problem area for the E74 you dont have to go anywhere near the CPU since the problem is somewhere at the lower part of the GPU down to the ANA-chip.
Heating up the entire area is a good go to prevent future errors but it isnt really necessary to waste the heat and time on it if you know whats the problem...
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josiah1992

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« Reply #54 on: June 30, 2008, 03:45:00 PM »

hey wilhelm its me agin lol.
i just have one question.
in one of the steps, you said to cut holes ou in the insulation for the chips,
but in the pictures the insulation doesnt cover the part of the board where th chips are.
so should the insualtion be convering the whole board and have holes in so you can only see the chips,
or do i just need to cover the board around the chips like in the pictures?
hope that made sense lol.
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xtc2006

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« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2008, 09:11:00 AM »

QUOTE(Wilhelm_I @ Jun 30 2008, 04:44 PM) View Post

The FAQ isnt always right so which error code are you talking about?
I always only concentrate on the problem area for the E74 you dont have to go anywhere near the CPU since the problem is somewhere at the lower part of the GPU down to the ANA-chip.
Heating up the entire area is a good go to prevent future errors but it isnt really necessary to waste the heat and time on it if you know whats the problem...



hey Wilhelm please post all the error codes and their meaning if you can it would be a great help.
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josiah1992

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« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2008, 09:21:00 AM »

QUOTE(xtc2006 @ Jul 1 2008, 04:47 PM) View Post

hey Wilhelm please post all the error codes and their meaning if you can it would be a great help.


all error codes and meaning can be found in this topic:

xbox 360 error codes and meanings
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« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2008, 10:01:00 AM »

QUOTE(josiah1992 @ Jul 1 2008, 11:57 AM) View Post

all error codes and meaning can be found in this topic:

xbox 360 error codes and meanings



Lmao this thread is starting to become priceless! Love the responses people are giving  pop.gif
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josiah1992

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« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2008, 12:46:00 PM »

QUOTE(bosnia_9 @ Jul 1 2008, 05:37 PM) View Post

Lmao this thread is starting to become priceless! Love the responses people are giving  pop.gif


what is wrong with my response? i was only trying to help the guy. oh and could someone answer my question that i asked a bit further up in the post? thanks in advance
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Squeakk

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« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2008, 12:56:00 PM »

Seriously, this trick is extremely easy. Cover everything besides the ram, cpu, and gpu with layers of thick plastic (try painting drop sheets) I then taped it down with electrical tape. Then layered the mobo with aluminium foil, make sure there are no holes or cracks onto (if heat gets in, it gets trapped). I heat gunned on the lowest setting for a minute then high for about three minutes (I began to hear a popping sound, and quickly stopped heating). I pulled away the layers and saw the plastic had shrunk onto the capacitors and other things you don't want heated up. I let it sit open for about an hour, came back put it back into metal cage booted up, worked perfectly -- still does (I didn't think it would work because I didn't see the solder turn yellow or golden brown, everything looked the same -- don't be too preoccupied on the actual appearance, just go for time heating)
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