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[stevenh78]

I tried heatgunning for longer this time round and have now got error 0022, not sure if I've made things better or not...  3 of the big caps seems burnt and 2 small caps look damaged as well so will replace them and hope that would help things... any other suggestions?

[paveynick]

QUOTE(stevenh78 @ Dec 10 2008, 01:13 AM)

 3 of the big caps seems burnt and 2 small caps look damaged as well

Isolate a bit better maybe? Use foil, hide those caps

[oldmike]

Well I tried it again with the gun closer (Approx. 3”). Apparently I did not do a good enough job of  insolating because I blew one of the small caps (10V 220uf). I stopped as soon as I heard it pop so I still did not get the board hot enough to reflow. The error code is still 0102 so I don’t think I screw it up. Should I try again before I replace the cap? Does anyone know where I can get a replacement cap?

[oldmike]

I replaced the cap and did the heat gun again back first then front 1min on low 5min on high. No problem with any damage to any of the components. Error code changed from 0102 to 0020. The visible solder has started to change color from silver to bronze. I need some help here guys. Am I still not getting it hot enough? Would some kind of flux help? If so what kind? Is this box just not repairable?

[kimimaro277]

I think if your heatgun blew some caps then it's hot enough. Try heating the back only. 1 min at low setting and 4 mins at high setting. I noticed you did 5 mins on high setting. Maybe the board gets too hot. I didn't notice any color change during heating. Been 2 weeks without any problems with everyday usage averaging 4 hours. <Knock on wood>

[bakelo]

Wilhelm.. i've tried your tips, and i heatgun my board.. (with my uncle's help) it all gone well and my xbox alive again!! but after 4 days of happiness, just now when i playin the last remnant and i heard sound "TLIT" the the game freze.. after i restart it, WELCOME BACK 0102!!!!
im about to give up... i open the xbox's box and i add 12 fan to cool teh console.. i'm bloody sure heat is not the issue... i can touch the GPU and CPU heatsink, the ANA, southbridge and RAM with barehand.... when i playin the game and its barely warm.
God, spare me.. i only want to play video games...  

[crxdriver]

I have a question. Is it normal for GPU to have "bubbles" on it after heatgunning ? I did 1+4 minutes and 3-4 inches far from the board, heating in circles, everything said in the tutorial and the rest of the thread (I red all the pages), and now my GPU is all bubbly, not plane surface like before. I had E74, and now I get 3RROD right off i push the power button. Also, i get some short of "zzz" sound when it starts. I cannot see secondary code, because foil melted both my wifi and eject buttons, I will replace them tomorrow with ones from a broken console.

My solder is now golden, on the GPU and on HANA, so I guess I did it correctly. Off course, I didn't kick the board during all of this. I'm not into electronics, but I measured all the capacitors near GPU and HANA and all of them looks fine, so I don't understand where is that sound coming from (i don't remember it on a working console).

Also, I don't get the use of that isolation, I have the same one as in the tutorial, and it was all gone, like vanished , and it is all because of a foil which just transfers all the heat all over the board, so I don't get the use of a foil either, It just can mess up the isolation and any plastic parts near it, like my eject and wifi button. There must be some real isolation material to be used for this.

thanks

[kimimaro277]

I don't think it's good bro, uneven surface makes poor or no heat transfer from gpu to heatsink. How hot was your heatgun ?

[crxdriver]

It's not the crystal (or how it is called) that is uneven, but the green part of the GPU, where all the small components and the PCB are. I don't know about the temperature, I have only 2 positions on my heatgun. I guess It was maybe too hot, because I got golden solders under the board, and I only heated the top side. Is it normal to melt the solder under the board when heatgunning the top side ?

Here is the picture of the GPU. Look at the left side, you can see those bumps.

[kimimaro277]

I think it was definitely too hot. I've heatgunned two 360s and both are working just fine till now.
The first one was perfect but the second 360 I didn't insulate it properly and two caps became slightly bigger.

Either your heatgun is too hot or you put it too close to the motherboard.
And I've never seen the solder joints changed color. Let alone melt the back side while heating the front side.

As for making your motherboard to work again, I'm clueless. Sorry that i couldn't be more helpful.

[Danny-boy]

QUOTE(crxdriver @ Dec 19 2008, 07:50 PM)

 Is it normal to melt the solder under the board when heatgunning the top side ?

Here is the picture of the GPU. Look at the left side, you can see those bumps.

If mine looked like that, I would be worried!!

The solder should only soften enough to re-connect with the mobo again, and definatley one side at a time not both at once.
As for repair, I really wouldn't know.

I think you over did it mate.
As michael Cain once said " You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off"

[bonzof.pl]

-ye-bay .de
http://cgi.ebay.de/X...e...A1|240:1318
,, Sie bieten hier auf ein defektes Xbox 360 Mainboard ( Motherboard, Hauptplatine ), ich habe das Mainboard mt ROD gekauft. Es hatte den Fehler 0022!!! Ich habe versucht den Hotfix mit einem Heißtluftfön durchzuführen, leider ist die GPU etwas zu warm geworden und ein paar Kondensatoren von der Oberseite der GPU sind abgefallen. Das Mainboard lässt sich noch starten und zeigt jetzt den Fehler 0003 ( was soviel heißt wie fehlende Kapazität auf CPU bzw. GPU )!

Natürlich gibt es zu diesem Mainboard den passenden Laufwerkkey dazu. Die passenden Kühler und die Anschaltplatine gibt es in einer seperaten Auktion!

Ich möchte ausdrücklich darauf Hinweisen das es sich hier um eine Privatauktion handelt und ich keinerlei Garantie oder Gewährleistung für dieses Produkt gebe,,
translate google.

 

[Wilhelm_I]

QUOTE(bonzof.pl @ Dec 20 2008, 03:18 PM)

-ye-bay .de
http://cgi.ebay.de/X...e...A1|240:1318
,, Sie bieten hier auf ein defektes Xbox 360 Mainboard ( Motherboard, Hauptplatine ), ich habe das Mainboard mt ROD gekauft. Es hatte den Fehler 0022!!! Ich habe versucht den Hotfix mit einem Heißtluftfön durchzuführen, leider ist die GPU etwas zu warm geworden und ein paar Kondensatoren von der Oberseite der GPU sind abgefallen. Das Mainboard lässt sich noch starten und zeigt jetzt den Fehler 0003 ( was soviel heißt wie fehlende Kapazität auf CPU bzw. GPU )!

Natürlich gibt es zu diesem Mainboard den passenden Laufwerkkey dazu. Die passenden Kühler und die Anschaltplatine gibt es in einer seperaten Auktion!

Ich möchte ausdrücklich darauf Hinweisen das es sich hier um eine Privatauktion handelt und ich keinerlei Garantie oder Gewährleistung für dieses Produkt gebe,,
translate google.

 

The article is German and I have seen this 360 myself on Ebay yesterday..

However there is no German version for this tutorial so it very unlikely that he has used it since Germans and you are very much alike.
99% of them hate speaking English and freak out when they have to so the chance that he has used this is very very low and if you would have understood this tutorial or have done it yourself you would have figured out that this only happens if you hit the GPU with a hammer...

I would really appreciate if you could stop hating on me because I seriously don't see any reason for your negative attitude, statements and spamming my threads with links to your Polish website.
Come up with something better and then feel free to degrade the work of others but the way you have chosen now is just disrespectful and pathetic...

And I hope you like the PM I sent you...

[kaisek]

QUOTE(crxdriver @ Dec 20 2008, 12:25 PM)

I thought so. My Heatgun is obviously too strong. I have another three xboxes left for heatgunning, so I will be more carefull, maybe try 2 minutes on high.

Did you remove all of the old thermal paste from the gpu before heatgunning?

[crxdriver]

QUOTE(kaisek @ Dec 22 2008, 01:32 AM)

Did you remove all of the old thermal paste from the gpu before heatgunning?

I didn't clean it perfect, you can see from the picture, I just wanted to try how it goes, but the paste was not on the bubbly places. Today I tried heatgunning the bottom of the board, and I did it 1+3 minutes from around 4 inches away, and again I got bubbles, but this time on the board itself. It is not visible that much, but I can feel it under my fingers. On my heatgun it says 350 degrees (celsius) for speed 1, and 550 degrees for speed 2, and I see everyone has similar temperatures for their heatguns, so I don't understand why is this happening.