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josiah1992

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« Reply #285 on: August 18, 2008, 03:28:00 PM »

damn error 0022. did this to fix error E74 but now im getting 0022. i heated both top and bottom and even tried your method of the xclamp reaplcement, but still get 0022. is there anything else i can do, or is this board dead?
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« Reply #286 on: August 19, 2008, 10:12:00 AM »

QUOTE(juan23 @ Aug 18 2008, 08:40 PM) *

I just did the tutorial myself, however after a couple attempts it worked for about an hour, then finally on my final try i get an error code 0003.  everything appears to be good I cant see any burn or mesups on  the board.  any suggestions or anyone else get this code yet.  i read through all 19 pages and didnt see anyone with that code.

i know it has to do with power to cpu gpu, however it is the same power adapter that i use on my main xbox.

tia.

p.S great tutorial, I have been successsful on a couple so far.

Ye http://xe.brothersoffreedom.com/en/errorcode.php?s=0003 is really a pain in the arse.
Am glad I didnt have one so far...
Scan your mainboard for any parts that have moved away while heatgunning and are bridging something now or that have fallen off...
Might also be a defective part in case you have got any extremely burned/blown capacitors try to replace them.

QUOTE(josiah1992 @ Aug 19 2008, 12:04 AM) *

damn error 0022. did this to fix error E74 but now im getting 0022. i heated both top and bottom and even tried your method of the xclamp reaplcement, but still get 0022. is there anything else i can do, or is this board dead?

Hmm which parts did you concentrate on, for long did you heatgun at which temperature and how long did you wait after heatgunning, did you maybe touch/ move the board while heatgunning/before the cool down time was over?
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« Reply #287 on: August 19, 2008, 10:47:00 AM »

i focussed and the gpu and ana chip area. i warmed it up first at low ( 300C ) for 1 minute and then i heated it on high (500C) for another 3-4 minutes. i left it to cool down for 45+ minutes and im pretty sure the board didnt move whilst i was heating it. am i screwed?
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Vendeta

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« Reply #288 on: August 19, 2008, 10:59:00 AM »

Well, I found someone who has a proper BGA reflow machine. It heats the board from top and bottom at same time, with different temps and takes it through a full cooling curve ect.

Should get it back tomorrow and no more RRODs more me I hope!  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

Will update tomorrow night!
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« Reply #289 on: August 19, 2008, 02:32:00 PM »

QUOTE(josiah1992 @ Aug 19 2008, 07:23 PM) *

i focussed and the gpu and ana chip area. i warmed it up first at low ( 300C ) for 1 minute and then i heated it on high (500C) for another 3-4 minutes. i left it to cool down for 45+ minutes and im pretty sure the board didnt move whilst i was heating it. am i screwed?

Did you do the bottom first, then let it cool down and then do the top?
In total the whole procedure should take like 2 hours...

QUOTE(Vendeta @ Aug 19 2008, 07:35 PM) *

Well, I found someone who has a proper BGA reflow machine. It heats the board from top and bottom at same time, with different temps and takes it through a full cooling curve ect.

Should get it back tomorrow and no more RRODs more me I hope!  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

Will update tomorrow night!

Good luck mate!
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« Reply #290 on: August 19, 2008, 02:38:00 PM »

Thanks Dave! biggrin.gif
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josiah1992

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« Reply #291 on: August 19, 2008, 04:24:00 PM »

QUOTE(Wilhelm_I @ Aug 19 2008, 10:08 PM) *

Did you do the bottom first, then let it cool down and then do the top?
In total the whole procedure should take like 2 hours...


yeah i did. should i try again with heating the top first and then bottom? or should i try exactly what i did again? or is it not worth it?
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« Reply #292 on: August 20, 2008, 12:02:00 AM »

Try top only and do it a minute longer if this doesnt reflow it properly the thing is dead.
Also take a look at the solderballs under the GPU from the side if they are shorting out you got your problem tongue.gif
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josiah1992

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« Reply #293 on: August 20, 2008, 02:13:00 AM »

QUOTE(Wilhelm_I @ Aug 20 2008, 07:38 AM) *

Try top only and do it a minute longer if this doesnt reflow it properly the thing is dead.
Also take a look at the solderballs under the GPU from the side if they are shorting out you got your problem tongue.gif


ok thanks wilhelm. i took a good look at the solder balls to see what i can find and although i couldnt see any signs of a short, i did notice that one side of the gpu was raised slighty higher than the other as i could see the solder balls more clearly. is this a sign that i am officially screwed, or is this fixable?
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« Reply #294 on: August 20, 2008, 04:27:00 AM »

sorry for double posting, i missed the edit time frame. i was jut wondering if there is a way to put even pressure on the gpu whilst heat gunning from the bottom so that it becomes level again,or wont that work?
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« Reply #295 on: August 20, 2008, 07:37:00 AM »

This is the reason why you are getting 0022 I guess...
You can indeed push it slightly down but this very risky, someone told people to do it a few pages earlier and one guy screwed his GPU up like that,...
Since you have got nothing to loose give it a go.
Use a screw driver or the heatsink to push it down slightly.
The best will be to start like when you start heating it up because if you push it down when the solderballs have melted you risk flattening the GPU out completely.
So the solder balls are only soft but havent melted yet completely...
Be very careful, dont overdo it...

And to prevent other from fucking their 360s up using this awful fix, like earlier.
DONT DO THIS IT WILL BREAK YOUR XBOX!!!
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« Reply #296 on: August 20, 2008, 03:26:00 PM »

Well, I got the motherboard back today, reflowed. Got the video and sound back! biggrin.gif:D

So, I put heatsinks back on, without clamps. So watching a dvd on the console now since I dont have a game now best i can do to test it out. Since getting it back, no RROD. So I am happy so far!!  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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« Reply #297 on: August 21, 2008, 12:01:00 AM »

QUOTE(Vendeta @ Aug 21 2008, 12:02 AM) *

Well, I got the motherboard back today, reflowed. Got the video and sound back! biggrin.gif:D

So, I put heatsinks back on, without clamps. So watching a dvd on the console now since I dont have a game now best i can do to test it out. Since getting it back, no RROD. So I am happy so far!!  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

Nice to hear that go get a game to test it properly though the temps will go up by like 10°C when you play a game.
Which was the error code you were getting again?
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« Reply #298 on: August 21, 2008, 12:05:00 AM »

I was getting 0102 and sometimes 1021. I would normally get RROS 5/10 times when turning the console on. I have get to get one now. biggrin.gif
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« Reply #299 on: August 25, 2008, 02:55:00 PM »

I was getting 1RL + e74 (error code: 1022).

Heatgunning and then xclamping brought the box back to life. biggrin.gif
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