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[Rammieone]

~You will need to update if you wish to play any of the new games out so yes well worth doing so anyway mate

[tullyfish]

It might be flagged but not banned, not even 100% that MS will ban for ap25 flags due to the bad PR of the last attempt.

If you stay offline there is no need to update yet - however, eventually (maybe several months) games will ship with the new dash and you will likely have to update to lt3.0 to run ap25 games.

[dougiegillam]

QUOTE(warstrong @ Dec 26 2011, 10:34 AM)

*DISCLAIMER: I'm not knowledgeable, so if you're reasearching, disregard my posts   *
I recently bought a system that was fixed by Microsoft just 1 month ago.  It's running dashboard 13599 with LT+ 2.0 on a BenQ drive... It was sold to me by a reputable member (360gamerdude) who stated it wasn't banned.  Unexpectedly, it came with Batman: Arkham City right in the drive.  Batman is an AP2.5 title and has obviously been run on the system while running the LT 2.0 firmware... That means the system's log file has a record of the AP test failure, leaving me to believe there's no reason it wouldn't be flagged for ban...

Presuming I'm right, why exactly would I bother updating to 3.0?  Isn't 3.0 just to avoid getting flagged?  All this talk of topology data makes me wonder if 0800 uploads will be usable on my 2.0 drive...

Thanks in advance!

For users who dont use LIVE theres no need to update yet until MS release a game that requires a newer dashboard and renders your Custom firmware unusable. For LIVE users its a must.

[warstrong]

Understood But if I end up holding off on the update for now, my AP2.5 disks will undoubtedly be useless once I update, right?  I'm starting to lean towards updating the thing, in which case I'll restore to stock FW, update the dash via Live, reflash the drive to v3.0 using JungleFlash, and still burn games with IMGBurn with automated layer splitting and truncation using a regular new-ish LG burner?  Just want to be sure I have all that right lol...
Thanks for all the replies!

[osully]

I'm kind of in the same boat. I have a sammy drive, and as far as I can tell, I can play anything right now. Am I okay updating the dashboard and continuing to use the current LT+ without updating to 3.0 when it's available for Sammys?

[filletofish]

QUOTE(osully @ Dec 26 2011, 07:56 PM)

I'm kind of in the same boat. I have a sammy drive, and as far as I can tell, I can play anything right now. Am I okay updating the dashboard and continuing to use the current LT+ without updating to 3.0 when it's available for Sammys?

You're question is completely different as Samsung drives don't need LT3.0 since they can't read AP2.5 challenges, no LT3.0 is even planned for them, you can play as normal, no need to wait for anything.


@OP...

You would be well advised to update to LT3.0 before needlessly adding anymore failed AP2.5 challenges to your system, yes, it might not cause a ban but then there's more chance that a large number of failed AP2.5 challenges will be receiving a ban than a system that has only had 1.

You will have to update anyway as soon as games get released that need a dashboard update, which will likely be any game released from now on. Now you know that, it would be extremely silly to not update NOW.

[osully]

QUOTE(filletofish @ Dec 26 2011, 01:56 PM)

You're question is completely different as Samsung drives don't need LT3.0 since they can't read AP2.5 challenges, no LT3.0 is even planned for them, you can play as normal, no need to wait for anything.
@OP...

You would be well advised to update to LT3.0 before needlessly adding anymore failed AP2.5 challenges to your system, yes, it might not cause a ban but then there's more chance that a large number of failed AP2.5 challenges will be receiving a ban than a system that has only had 1.

You will have to update anyway as soon as games get released that need a dashboard update, which will likely be any game released from now on. Now you know that, it would be extremely silly to not update NOW.

Thanks... so the new dash won't interfere with anything? I was reading it won't play truncated backups somewhere.

[warstrong]

QUOTE(osully @ Dec 26 2011, 02:02 PM)

Thanks... so the new dash won't interfere with anything? I was reading it won't play truncated backups somewhere.

Well I guess truncated disks are a big risk on XBL anyway?  I'd like to know the answer to that anyway, since I'm not eager to spend the $20 on an iHAS burner.  Thanks

[mouseym]

QUOTE(osully @ Dec 26 2011, 07:02 PM)

Thanks... so the new dash won't interfere with anything? I was reading it won't play truncated backups somewhere.

I read somewhere that it DID support truncated backups. I can't find where i read it though...

http://c4evaspeaks.c...me-lt-plus-3-0/

found it

[filletofish]

QUOTE(osully @ Dec 26 2011, 09:02 PM)

Thanks... so the new dash won't interfere with anything? I was reading it won't play truncated backups somewhere.

No probs

re truncated backups, I'm going getting involved with any answer there as I strongly advise against using them for the sake of £15 for a drive Vs risk of ban and also again...most of truncated backups from games coming out now and onwards aren't going to work, not because of any special protection, which is possible - but because the games that don't work at the moment are not working because important game data isn't being burnt. Use of that game data partition will only be exploited more as time goes on. (in my opinion, seems likely).

Oops...guess that is an answer

[osully]

Well I don't play on Live, and I have a sammy, so there is no 3.0 LT+ for it. I had read that the new dash did not allow truncated backups to run period, though. I've been getting posts and responses all over saying they DO work and that they DON'T work, so I have no idea what the truth is.

I ordered an iHas drive, so when it shows up, I'll update the dash and see what happens I guess.

[iateshaggy]

just bc the drive fw supports truncated disk doesn't mean the next dash update will also.