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[HotKnife420]

QUOTE(scorpionrecords @ Dec 16 2011, 07:42 AM)

I guess is not the same method being used for old drives like drilling or capacitor?

 Reading/writing the firmware isn't the issue here - decrypting it is.

[D2C MASTER]

QUOTE(pperez664 @ Dec 16 2011, 08:55 PM)

How much you guys want to bet that team xecutor and the rest of the boys will came up with a new "spear" and some other crap they want to sell us only to become obsolete within a few weeks/months. Even if there was a software o kamikaze type of mod they wont let anyone know....why you ask??.... becuase then they come up with something new to sell us. Sometimes hardware is needed like for the RGH, other times hardware is not needed like the " LT Switch". They pushed the LT Switch down peoples throats when they knew of other ways to retrieve the dvd key. And the list goes on ladies and gentlemen. Monopolization at its finest.

Well said. I feel that's the reason they are not tellings anything. But it's ok. At the end of day  we are just going to buy it anyway.

[Redline99]

QUOTE(pperez664 @ Dec 16 2011, 11:55 AM)

They pushed the LT Switch down peoples throats when they knew of other ways to retrieve the dvd key. And the list goes on ladies and gentlemen. Monopolization at its finest.

I don't normally comment on this type of crap, but really? Xecuter pushed it down people's throat? Are you retarded or something where you can't do something on your own?  Maybe you are in another reality than I am in, but I do not remember being forced to use or buy anything.  I have done a lot of things the "hard way" and I really appreciate any and all of the tools, products and software made by various people and groups.  Team Xecuter, podger, geremia, maximus, xkey, wasabi, freeboot, schtrom, tiros, c0z, tmbinc, xorloser, etc, etc... The list goes on and on, who cares stop crying about this product or that product or they did this or they did that and grow up. Everyone builds upon others and in the end you do have choice to be thankful for.

[Ranger72]

QUOTE(Redline99 @ Dec 16 2011, 07:01 PM)

I don't normally comment on this type of crap, but really? Xecuter pushed it down people's throat? Are you retarded or something where you can't do something on your own?  Maybe you are in another reality than I am in, but I do not remember being forced to use or buy anything.  I have done a lot of things the "hard way" and I really appreciate any and all of the tools, products and software made by various people and groups.  Team Xecuter, podger, geremia, maximus, xkey, wasabi, freeboot, schtrom, tiros, c0z, tmbinc, xorloser, etc, etc... The list goes on and on, who cares stop crying about this product or that product or they did this or they did that and grow up. Everyone builds upon others and in the end you do have choice to be thankful for.

Normally I would just remove posts that could lead to flame war but this is spot on saying it as it is.

Nobody forced anybody to buy anything they dont want to.

Now back on topic.

[hitcat]

QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Dec 16 2011, 06:38 PM)

Normally I would just remove posts that could lead to flame war but this is spot on saying it as it is.

Nobody forced anybody to buy anything they dont want to.

Now back on topic.

Agreed and glad you did not remove it.
On Topic, yeah I have one of these drives and the new MOBO to go with it in a slim bought over a month ago.
K-Mart actually paid my guy a Penny (yeah Im not gonna go into detail as to how he does it but its 100% LEGAL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) just so i could have  a box with all the newest shizzz to mess around with when the time came.You guys have a way to dump it I'd be happy to attempt to with your technique and provide the dump to you to help with decoding.

[ruciz]

benefit is these drives are installed in glitchable 360's. Decrypting the encrypted firmware will not be a problem. Once decrypted it should be easy to reverse the algorithm to re-encrypt.

Its the next batch of drives that come in the corona model boards with no glitch ability.

as for the flames on TX and the other groups - they are out to make the cash not single-handedly hold the scene up.. Of course there are more exploits. RGH was sat on for a year before it was disclosed to ANYONE.... They sell whats 'public' easy, or marketable to capitalize on, while the private methods stay just that way - so your 'public' method thats commercialized can continue... as each one gets closed (spear dead due to new MS action) they have another method to reveal.
From the sounds of it MS didn't do any further advanced hardware protection (than a locked SPi) but they did add an encryption like the original hitachi drives had.. For sure there will be a spear or unlock board to get past SPi lock (maybe wrong) - but if you have the right component (cap or resistor or diode bridge or whatever) you can make your own for pennies... Maybe a corona hack will come out and you will have to use an elf file to dump/flash your drive right in the xbox to force the sales of NAND-X and CoolRunners V2 combination they are set to release? who knows.

It can be a very safe bet that the D4S drives are very close to the D5S. its not like this drive came out of nowhere....

Has no one on here took an economics class? basic business. Why sell the ferrari at $10,000 when people will buy kias for that price?

This post has been edited by ruciz: Dec 17 2011, 05:23 AM

[courier]

QUOTE(Redline99 @ Dec 17 2011, 01:01 AM)

I don't normally comment on this type of crap, but really? Xecuter pushed it down people's throat? Are you retarded or something where you can't do something on your own?  Maybe you are in another reality than I am in, but I do not remember being forced to use or buy anything.  I have done a lot of things the "hard way" and I really appreciate any and all of the tools, products and software made by various people and groups.  Team Xecuter, podger, geremia, maximus, xkey, wasabi, freeboot, schtrom, tiros, c0z, tmbinc, xorloser, etc, etc... The list goes on and on, who cares stop crying about this product or that product or they did this or they did that and grow up. Everyone builds upon others and in the end you do have choice to be thankful for.

True !!!! like more your post Red +10 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[hitcat]

QUOTE(ruciz @ Dec 16 2011, 10:08 PM)

Its the next batch of drives that come in the corona model boards with no glitch ability.

I have one in a non-glitchable board sitting here.

[danthaman673]

Who said corona is unglitchable?  It was apparently designed pre-RGH.....


If anyone decrypting the new FW needs someone to contribute a reasonable chunk of CPU WU's then I might be able to help. I'm guessing the kernel guys will make short work of it thru something similar to RGH but using SMC instead of Hana ;-) Maybe they can just figure it out somehow by looking at the update and how it decrypts it... I look forward to seeing what our cluey(er) scene member's come-up with on that one.

My guess is that it wont need anything much more than existing unlocking, but we will need perhaps some extended way of decrypting and then re-encrypting etc.. they prolly went with extending their hashing system somehow to make it more unique (like silent DAE.bin upd) and more painful to put back looking legit (I could speculate more here but for obvious reasons I wont)


(sorry fer straying off topic here...)
Monopoly implies there is only one alternative, not so .. It's just the ethics of one affect the many... just because you can doesn't mean you should doesn't seem to bear consideration to some, whom by their actions bite the very hands feeding them, if you are one of the many who are bitten, before you get angry remember THEY ARE NOT A MONOPOLY
(sorry couldn't help myself ;-)



Brgds

This post has been edited by danthaman673: Dec 17 2011, 09:45 PM

[scorpionrecords]

QUOTE(scorpionrecords @ Dec 15 2011, 10:31 PM)

Are Lite-on 1175 drives everywhere now or will it be while for 0401 drives to disappear at the store? M$ is not giving up that means c4eva did a good job.

Anything after August 17, 2011 is likely to be a Corona/1175, which, at present, can’t be modded

[Exobex]

Is there anything WE can do? Plenty of spare CPU cycles around here if someone set up a Project-X-type brute-force attack on the OFW, if such an attack is feasible?

[filletofish]

QUOTE(Exobex @ Dec 18 2011, 07:26 PM)

Is there anything WE can do? Plenty of spare CPU cycles around here if someone set up a Project-X-type brute-force attack on the OFW, if such an attack is feasible?

Just because you want to save the world doesn't mean you can.

[iAmMasterF]

every1 getting a slim shud be looking at preowned ones as the valhalla can do rgh & have a liteon 0255.

[njmbb8]

It would be nice if they would release the method used to dump the firmware so that we could all look at the encryption

[macforever2012]

NO that would be a foolish idea!

The last thing you want to do is reveal to MS the procedures used to decrypt their newest firmware

You NEVER release your source code or decryption procedures publically.  Because if its made public the Provider can see how its been specifically compromised and patch the backdoor holes being exploited and port the techique over to newer drive firmware to ensure they can't be simmilarly compromised.

Give C4eva and Team Executer a little credit.  The reason that great relationship hast lasted all these years is because they keep their mouth shut and keep the lid shut on all source code and procedures for disassembly.

Come on guys think first before posting.  

Releasing your source code and private decryption procedures is something only an uniformed NOOB would ask.  A skilled hacker knows such things must always be kept very private!

EXAMPLE:

How you think we so sucessfully NOZKT'd or hacked the old DirecTV receivers for nearly 8 years right under Dave's watchful eyes?  

Because, we never released the procedure or source code for decrypting or dissasembling  their reciever's firmware and thus for 8 years every new DirecTV receiver/model was compromosed the same exact way; Thus forcing them to finally replace all satellite cards and all STB receivers in 2004, since our NOZKT hack was 100% unstoppable. If it had been released them Dave could have easily patch all firmware updates to keep us out or at best keep us cronically repatching firmware to spoof around it and keep it working.

This is why you NEVER release source code or decryption procedures.

This post has been edited by macforever2012: Dec 20 2011, 01:19 AM